Not sure where the Adm. would want to post this one so I'll put it here based on the content.
www.goupstate.com/article/20150617/ARTICLES/15061972/1083/ARTICLES?Title=9-dead-in-shooting-at-Charleston-AME-church
A pic of the shooter has been released thru security devices at the church but no name given to the young white male shooter who apparently came into the "all welcome" church Bible study shortly after 9pm Wednesday evening. Nationwide manhunt ensues.
Sorry folks, the above address has been taken down or moved already, so try this
www.goupstate.com/article/20150617/ARTICLES/150619722/0/news300
Quote from: keyboarder on June 18, 2015, 04:06:21 AM
Not sure where the Adm. would want to post this one so I'll put it here based on the content.
www.goupstate.com/article/20150617/ARTICLES/15061972/1083/ARTICLES?Title=9-dead-in-shooting-at-Charleston-AME-church
A pic of the shooter has been released thru security devices at the church but no name given to the young white male shooter who apparently came into the "all welcome" church Bible study shortly after 9pm Wednesday evening. Nationwide manhunt ensues.
Sorry folks, the above address has been taken down or moved already, so try this
www.goupstate.com/article/20150617/ARTICLES/150619722/0/news300
This is a terrible situation in one of my favorite cities. It is still very early in the investigation. However, so far the authorities and community leadership are approaching this in a cautious and measured manner. Let's hope Sharpton, Jackson and the paid Soros agitators stay away and let the process work.
Hate crime?
God how I hate the hypocrisy of leftists!
Quote from: Solar on June 18, 2015, 04:36:41 AM
Hate crime?
God how I hate the hypocrisy of leftists!
Yep, me too. You can count on Jackson and Sharpton to be there shortly. Of the many murders among black men of their own race, you won't hear hate mentioned.
Our news affiliates in SC and nationwide will fuel up the rhetoric and where there has been a peaceful and somber start into this issue, watch how quickly it will dissolve into chaos once the race baiters start in.
Quote from: keyboarder on June 18, 2015, 05:02:13 AM
Yep, me too. You can count on Jackson and Sharpton to be there shortly. Of the many murders among black men of their own race, you won't hear hate mentioned.
Our news affiliates in SC and nationwide will fuel up the rhetoric and where there has been a peaceful and somber start into this issue, watch how quickly it will dissolve into chaos once the race baiters start in.
Yep, they still have yet to call the shooting on Fort Hood gunman Maj. Nidal Hasan, a terrorist, rather a disgruntled individual.
But somehow this was instantly a "Hate Crime"?
Quote from: Solar on June 18, 2015, 05:17:47 AM
Yep, they still have yet to call the shooting on Fort Hood gunman Maj. Nidal Hasan, a terrorist, rather a disgruntled individual.
But somehow this was instantly a "Hate Crime"?
A survivor of an attempted beheading, where another co-worker was beheaded, was on Kelly's show last night. They aren't calling that terrorism either, even tho the disgruntled employee was saying things in Arabic while the attack was going on.
Quote from: Dori on June 18, 2015, 07:04:23 AM
A survivor of an attempted beheading, where another co-worker was beheaded, was on Kelly's show last night. They aren't calling that terrorism either, even tho the disgruntled employee was saying things in Arabic while the attack was going on.
Somebody's gonna have to put out the official definition of when something IS the fault of that murderous death cult.
Quote from: Solar on June 18, 2015, 05:17:47 AM
Yep, they still have yet to call the shooting on Fort Hood gunman Maj. Nidal Hasan, a terrorist, rather a disgruntled individual.
But somehow this was instantly a "Hate Crime"?
The insanity of the leftist agenda exposed. The only hate crimes are those with white on blacks involved, never the reverse or terrorists murdering anyone not a muslim. I suspect that any thinking person can see through the leftist agenda and figure out that any one that willingly murders another person didn't do it out of love.
Liberals are insane and should be treated as such. Lobotomies for all of them!
Quote from: tac on June 18, 2015, 07:41:27 AM
The insanity of the leftist agenda exposed. The only hate crimes are those with white on blacks involved, never the reverse or terrorists murdering anyone not a muslim. I suspect that any thinking person can see through the leftist agenda and figure out that any one that willingly murders another person didn't do it out of love.
Liberals are insane and should be treated as such. Lobotomies for all of them!
No. Harvest the body parts.
A suspect has been identified. A 21 year old from the Columbia area with a prior drug arrest.
Quote from: quiller on June 18, 2015, 07:56:05 AM
No. Harvest the body parts.
They could be corrupt! :lol:
Quote from: tac on June 18, 2015, 08:12:35 AM
They could be corrupt! :lol:
Always have a Plan B.
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They caught him = good
alive = bad
Now we're going to have to go thru the drawn out trial mess.
The nut in Colorado who killed all those people in the movie theatre is just now on trial.
Quote from: Dori on June 18, 2015, 09:17:16 AM
They caught him = good
alive = bad
Now we're going to have to go thru the drawn out trial mess.
The nut in Colorado who killed all those people in the movie theatre is just now on trial.
Unless they find out he voted Dim, this will be milked for it's distractive value for the next month.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste.....
Quote from: Dori on June 18, 2015, 09:17:16 AM
They caught him = good
alive = bad
Now we're going to have to go thru the drawn out trial mess.
The nut in Colorado who killed all those people in the movie theatre is just now on trial.
So will he be one more that stopped taking his Bipolar med's?
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2015, 09:48:16 AM
So will he be one more that stopped taking his Bipolar med's?
Something is wrong with him. He's been arrested a couple of times, once with a drug similar to methadone on him. It's used to rehab from opiate addiction.
Quote from: Dori on June 18, 2015, 09:53:20 AM
Something is wrong with him. He's been arrested a couple of times, once with a drug similar to methadone on him. It's used to rehab from opiate addiction.
Normal people don't go out killing that many people.
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2015, 09:59:47 AM
Normal people don't go out killing that many people.
Not surprisingly Obama used this event as an opportunity to push for more gun control. He just can't help it.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 18, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
Not surprisingly Obama used this event as an opportunity to push for more gun control. He just can't help it.
b o is not normal people!
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2015, 09:59:47 AM
Normal people don't go out killing that many people.
True. Like that guy in the Arizona, Gifford's shooting. He killed six and injured several others. The kid who killed all those children, and even the famous Columbine killers. All senseless and crazy stuff. But I'll bet besides being crazy, there were drugs involved in all of them.
Quote from: Dori on June 18, 2015, 09:17:16 AM
They caught him = good
alive = bad
Now we're going to have to go thru the drawn out trial mess.
The nut in Colorado who killed all those people in the movie theatre is just now on trial.
Well he wasn't black so the cops wouldn't shoot him!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Obama never misses an opportunity to dramatically revisit the days of slavery and hate! fan the flames!!! Get everyone all worked up again!!! Agitate and spew vitriol. Then ....... tie it all to gun control...!!!
Eureka!!! Never let a crisis go to waste!
I honestly believe he relishes in these "opportunities"!
Does he say a peep about the murders in the gun free zones of Chicago? Never!!!!!
Quote from: kroz on June 18, 2015, 01:12:19 PM
Obama never misses an opportunity to dramatically revisit the days of slavery and hate! fan the flames!!! Get everyone all worked up again!!! Agitate and spew vitriol. Then ....... tie it all to gun control...!!!
Eureka!!! Never let a crisis go to waste!
I honestly believe he relishes in these "opportunities"!
Does he say a peep about the murders in the gun free zones of Chicago? Never!!!!!
He is what he is and now so easy to predict. He followed the pattern we figured he would. I have seen that Sharpton is on his way to Charleston, but have not seen anything official. Wouldn't it be great if the good folks of Charleston would tell him to get lost?
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 18, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
He is what he is and now so easy to predict. He followed the pattern we figured he would. I have seen that Sharpton is on his way to Charleston, but have not seen anything official. Wouldn't it be great if the good folks of Charleston would tell him to get lost?
Yes it would !!!
Charleston should do what the folks in McKinney did....... totally ignore the alien demonstrators....paid, no doubt by a leftist organization!
The best response is NO RESPONSE..!
There is something funny about Obama's reaction. Making this a gun control speech within 24 hours of the tragedy. Bobby Jindahl has called him out on this.
Quote from: kroz on June 18, 2015, 01:30:24 PM
Yes it would !!!
Charleston should do what the folks in McKinney did....... totally ignore the alien demonstrators....paid, no doubt by a leftist organization!
The best response is NO RESPONSE..!
Unfortunately we have a pure nutcase involved with drugs. From all indications he is a racist also. It is sad and outrageous. I also saw on Facebook that his sister has her wedding planned for this Saturday. That is another indication this guy is on another planet. He was captured in Keyboarder's and my area.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 18, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
Unfortunately we have a pure nutcase involved with drugs. From all indications he is a racist also. It is sad and outrageous. I also saw on Facebook that his sister has her wedding planned for this Saturday. That is another indication this guy is on another planet. He was captured in Keyboarder's and my area.
Yes, that is sadly very true. He is a nut case for sure.
But I hope it doesn't devolve into a race riot like Ferguson. Sharpton and Company are good at that. He should be ignored!
Jones has a write up on the killer.
CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone
Charleston shooter Dylann Storm Roof was reportedly taking a drug that has been linked with sudden outbursts of violence, fitting the pattern of innumerable other mass shooters who were on or had recently come off pharmaceutical drugs linked to aggression.
According to a CBS News report, earlier this year when cops searched Roof after he was acting suspiciously inside a Bath and Body Works store, they found "orange strips" that Roof told officers was suboxone, a narcotic that is used to treat opiate addiction.
Suboxone is a habit-forming drug that has been connected with sudden outbursts of aggression.
A user on the MD Junction website relates how her husband "became violent, smashing things and threatening me," after just a few days of coming off suboxone.
Another poster on the Drugs.com website tells the story of how his personality completely changed as a result of taking suboxone.
The individual relates how he became "nasty" and "violent" just weeks into taking the drug, adding that he would "snap" and be mean to people for no reason.
Another poster reveals how his son-in-law "completely changed on suboxone," and that the drug sent him into "self-destruct mode."
A user named 'Jhalloway' also tells the story of how her husband's addiction to suboxone was "ruining our life."
http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/
Since the state began cracking down on prescription drug abuse, "we've seen a drastic reduction in pill mills. In lieu of that, now people are opening Suboxone clinics. Many are cash-only," said Leanne Diakov, general counsel for the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure. "We have seen some doctors in trouble with licenses or finances opening these clinics."
The U.S. government lists 330 Kentucky physicians authorized to prescribe buprenorphine. A Courier-Journal analysis shows that 45, or 14 percent, have a history of discipline by the medical board.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2014/07/03/addiction-medicine-suboxone-now-abused/12153725/
This P.O's me for a couple of reasons, First, this is what happens when you deliberately TRY to start a race war, nut cakes like this little punk who feed off the hatred.
Then Obamao steps in an declares it a "hate crime" which somehow gives the Justice department supreme jurisdiction when it should be going to the State of South Carolina as mass murder and hopefully, the death penalty. The local police, who Obamao has been at war with, were right on top of this, handled the crime scene well, ID'd the suspect and transmitted his picture promptly leading to the suspects swift capture. Now they'll have the rug jerked out from under them as they have to TOT everything to the Feds who just might screw things up in their zeal backed by their idiot bosses at Justice dept..... (been there done that).
to add icing to the rotten cake, Obamao has to open his mouth and plug for "gun control", not a word about racial division and all his administrations promoting same through their actions doing the tango with Al Sharpton, Jesse and that bunch of hate mongers. Obamao can't even bring himself to call this Church Gods house or a place to pray to the almighty in the Christian Tradition.... No, he has to say something like a "place of Solace", which should be an insult to any Christian of any denomination.
Last let me say that those of us who are Christian need to pray for the souls of those innocent victims gunned down and for the families, lets hope this thing doesn't go into retaliation mode and start more killings and racial hatred than there already is.
It P.O.s me because Obama will NEVER turn this into a war on drugs!!!!
Quote from: kroz on June 18, 2015, 02:49:56 PM
It P.O.s me because Obama will NEVER turn this into a war on drugs!!!!
Hillary needs to come out and support the Liberal gun bans Obama pushes. The second amendment should take a prominent role in this election cycle debate!!
Why's the perp wearing Rhodesian and South African flag-patches?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/18/charleston-suspect-wore-apartheid-era-south-african-and-rhodesian-flags/
-Trying to be precociously diversionary, I'd guess.
Quote from: kroz on June 18, 2015, 02:49:56 PM
It P.O.s me because Obama will NEVER turn this into a war on drugs!!!!
drugs in this case are going to be used as an excuse or "justification" well your honor the defendant was under the influence of drugs (prescribed medication) and not responsible for his actions....blah blah blah....
I wager we're going to find a long history of drug abuse with this punk and perscription drugs being at the core.
Its going to be interesting to see if the kid talks and what
he says is the motivation for his crime, ending all the speculation and nonsense, I wonder what will be the reaction should he mention Obamao, Holder, Sharpton or Jesse.
Quote from: mrclose on June 18, 2015, 03:04:42 PM
What agenda? :confused:
It was
way worse in the 60's.
Racial unrest wasn't an illusion, like today's social-networking tries so hard to project. They're small-minded racial-nostalgists who
missed-out on the factual relevance of past unrests... including soetoro.
Think about how huge the Country is.
Quote from: kit saginaw on June 18, 2015, 07:53:12 PM
It was way worse in the 60's. Racial unrest wasn't an illusion, like today's social-networking tries so hard to project. They're small-minded racial-nostalgists who missed-out on the factual relevance of past unrests... including soetoro. Think about how huge the Country is.
Comparing black on white crimes today with 1963, assaults on the innocent (both ways,) violence in predominantly black neighborhoods, arrests, resisting arrests, crimes involving firearms, general disrespect and disorderly conduct, anti-social behavior in general, I'd have to say the claim that it was worse in 1963 than today is purely a matter of opinion and perception.
For one thing, Baltimore MD has been in a state of utter lawlessness since, what, February?
It's not the guns, its the drugs!
QuoteThe question is, during the past twenty years is the use of antidepressants here a coincidence or a causation?
There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on.
http://cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/ (http://cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/)
This kid had a track record of bad behavior and hatred. What in the hell was his father thinking when he gave him gun for his 21st birthday.
On another note it seems the community is coming together. So far the race baiters have not gained any traction. Has there been any Sharpton sightings?
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 19, 2015, 04:47:32 AM
This kid had a track record of bad behavior and hatred. What in the hell was his father thinking when he gave him gun for his 21st birthday.
On another note it seems the community is coming together. So far the race baiters have not gained any traction. Has there been any Sharpton sightings?
Sharpton was somewhat late arriving to the Ferguson scene. The black panthers were early on the scene with plenty of vitriol to pump the local nincompoops. They prefer to generate their brand of hatred into the locals.... to make it look more authentic.
Good for the fine folks of Charleston for holding it together very well.... so far! :wink:
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 19, 2015, 04:47:32 AM
This kid had a track record of bad behavior and hatred. What in the hell was his father thinking when he gave him gun for his 21st birthday.
On another note it seems the community is coming together. So far the race baiters have not gained any traction. Has there been any Sharpton sightings?
I thought the exact same thing. Then it hit me, this kid din't come by his racism all on his own, and these drugs only exacerbated the issue by a power of 10, his inbred racism.
I'm only guessing here, his parents had a lot to do with his thought process.
I reflect back to my childhood, my dad hated cats, so I, like my father hated them as well and never questioned why.
That was until I got to know a cat and all that stupid childish prejudice disappeared.
Obviously this kid is mentally ill and acted on his fear and hatred, the drugs, like many drugs make it easier to act on impulse.
This kid should not be allowed a plea of insanity, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Kill the little cancer.
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2015, 07:55:03 AM
I thought the exact same thing. Then it hit me, this kid din't come by his racism all on his own, and these drugs only exacerbated the issue by a power of 10, his inbred racism.
I'm only guessing here, his parents had a lot to do with his thought process.
I reflect back to my childhood, my dad hated cats, so I, like my father hated them as well and never questioned why.
That was until I got to know a cat and all that stupid childish prejudice disappeared.
Obviously this kid is mentally ill and acted on his fear and hatred, the drugs, like many drugs make it easier to act on impulse.
This kid should not be allowed a plea of insanity, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Kill the little cancer.
I think you will get your wish. He has admitted his guilt and apparently will not fight it. He will plea and the Judge will sentence. End of story.
Actually, the Feds will likely discourage that. They want a long drawn out trial with lots of time to fan the flames of racial discord. :cursing:
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2015, 07:55:03 AM
I thought the exact same thing. Then it hit me, this kid din't come by his racism all on his own, and these drugs only exacerbated the issue by a power of 10, his inbred racism.
I'm only guessing here, his parents had a lot to do with his thought process.
I reflect back to my childhood, my dad hated cats, so I, like my father hated them as well and never questioned why.
That was until I got to know a cat and all that stupid childish prejudice disappeared.
Obviously this kid is mentally ill and acted on his fear and hatred, the drugs, like many drugs make it easier to act on impulse.
This kid should not be allowed a plea of insanity, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Kill the little cancer.
It is being reported that Mom took the gun away and the kid stole it back. It appears Mom and Dad are not together.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 19, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
It is being reported that Mom took the gun away and the kid stole it back. It appears Mom and Dad are not together.
His grandfather says that Roof was given "birthday money" and that the family didn't know what Roof did with it.
Looks like mom knew his potential for violence, and dad didn't care.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/index.html
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
His grandfather says that Roof was given "birthday money" and that the family didn't know what Roof did with it.
Looks like mom knew his potential for violence, and dad didn't care.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/index.html
Yep, most of it is probably going to be traced back thru one or more disfunctions in his life. But, haven't we all had to overcome in some way without going out and killing a bunch of people? This act has the potential of doing more than just ending lives and causing tremendous grief for family members of the victims. It has the potential for causing grief for thousands of people struggling to overcome racism and the problems that this kind of event produces. It was a purely evil act.
In the meantime, let no tragedy go to waste. We've got that trade deal being somewhat overlooked while stuff like this is going on. We need to keep our eyes on the things that keep growing out of hand.
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2015, 07:55:03 AM
I thought the exact same thing. Then it hit me, this kid din't come by his racism all on his own, and these drugs only exacerbated the issue by a power of 10, his inbred racism.
I'm only guessing here, his parents had a lot to do with his thought process.
I reflect back to my childhood, my dad hated cats, so I, like my father hated them as well and never questioned why.
That was until I got to know a cat and all that stupid childish prejudice disappeared.
Obviously this kid is mentally ill and acted on his fear and hatred, the drugs, like many drugs make it easier to act on impulse.
This kid should not be allowed a plea of insanity, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Kill the little cancer.
We can't just write this off as "racism" and drug induced insanity.. There was a REASON this kid hated black people and there was a reason why he targeted that specific Church. Looking at him he might have been bullied by black kids in school, robbed by street drug dealers (Black) or any other number of "triggers" it could also be he targeted the Pastor who was also a state politician, or perhaps that Church offers drug counciling and he had issues with somebody there ....who knows, but I think the truth will come out.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2015, 05:04:27 PM
We can't just write this off as "racism" and drug induced insanity.. There was a REASON this kid hated black people and there was a reason why he targeted that specific Church. Looking at him he might have been bullied by black kids in school, robbed by street drug dealers (Black) or any other number of "triggers" it could also be he targeted the Pastor who was also a state politician, or perhaps that Church offers drug counciling and he had issues with somebody there ....who knows, but I think the truth will come out.
I agree, it isn't just a one issue, one size fits all answer.
The one overwhelming issue in all of this is, the kid was a freakin nut with drug problems, all the other factors merely reinforced his hatred for everything, including himself.
Many times these failed individuals focus on one issue to blame for their on failures in life, such as standing up for ones self, and it would appear his scapegoat was blacks.
Had he not had access to a gun, I could almost guarantee more would have died from most likely a bomb or incendiary device.
Terror was his choice, luckily it was only a gun in the hands of a single individual.
Here is what P me O. Hitlery can't answer the first question on the Benghazi event but here she comes on this scene saying that this was a racial and hate filled crime. Just who in the world is interested in what she thinks or moreover what she has just got to say? I'd like to strangle her for injecting herself into this mess. Then there's Bozo and his gaggle of follow alongs trying to preach against guns again. If all that is not enough, we've got the rebel flag thingy raising its ugly head again and some still angry since the Civil War that we can allow that flag to be flown on state grounds. Never mind that some of us (most Southerners) see that flag as part of our heritage. The rest want to see it took down because it reminds them that a few relatives over a hundred years ago lived to see that flag flown and were reminded of the slavery they had to endure. I owned no slaves nor did any of my people and the rebel flag means heritage to me, historical symbol of our past and earliest years as a state.
If you were anywhere in SC since the tragedy at the AME church in Charleston, you would have been witness to an outpouring of outreach towards the victims and their families and friends. This is so much different than the Ferguson event in the way that the community has handled it, not only in Charleston but all over this state. We can handle this tragedy without the interference of those who want to make it about some sort of agenda that would be far, far worse than it is already.
Quote from: keyboarder on June 20, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
Here is what P me O. Hitlery can't answer the first question on the Benghazi event but here she comes on this scene saying that this was a racial and hate filled crime. Just who in the world is interested in what she thinks or moreover what she has just got to say? I'd like to strangle her for injecting herself into this mess. Then there's Bozo and his gaggle of follow alongs trying to preach against guns again. If all that is not enough, we've got the rebel flag thingy raising its ugly head again and some still angry since the Civil War that we can allow that flag to be flown on state grounds. Never mind that some of us (most Southerners) see that flag as part of our heritage. The rest want to see it took down because it reminds them that a few relatives over a hundred years ago lived to see that flag flown and were reminded of the slavery they had to endure. I owned no slaves nor did any of my people and the rebel flag means heritage to me, historical symbol of our past and earliest years as a state.
If you were anywhere in SC since the tragedy at the AME church in Charleston, you would have been witness to an outpouring of outreach towards the victims and their families and friends. This is so much different than the Ferguson event in the way that the community has handled it, not only in Charleston but all over this state. We can handle this tragedy without the interference of those who want to make it about some sort of agenda that would be far, far worse than it is already.
I am so impressed with the South Carolinians! They are being a wonderful example to the Country of the way Christians react vs. the pagans. It is the best manifestation and testimony of the faith in recent history. Until now, the Nation thought only the Amish forgive unconditionally. Now they know that Christians manifest that trait also.
The fine folks of Carolina are a bright light in the darkness this nation as descended into. Thank you to all who are involved in this wonderful expression of Christian love.
I heard on Fox news this morning that the perp's sister, uncle and dad all called police and identified him. I was wondering how his identity was found out so quickly.
Quote from: keyboarder on June 20, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
Here is what P me O. Hitlery can't answer the first question on the Benghazi event but here she comes on this scene saying that this was a racial and hate filled crime. Just who in the world is interested in what she thinks or moreover what she has just got to say? I'd like to strangle her for injecting herself into this mess. Then there's Bozo and his gaggle of follow alongs trying to preach against guns again. If all that is not enough, we've got the rebel flag thingy raising its ugly head again and some still angry since the Civil War that we can allow that flag to be flown on state grounds. Never mind that some of us (most Southerners) see that flag as part of our heritage. The rest want to see it took down because it reminds them that a few relatives over a hundred years ago lived to see that flag flown and were reminded of the slavery they had to endure. I owned no slaves nor did any of my people and the rebel flag means heritage to me, historical symbol of our past and earliest years as a state.
If you were anywhere in SC since the tragedy at the AME church in Charleston, you would have been witness to an outpouring of outreach towards the victims and their families and friends. This is so much different than the Ferguson event in the way that the community has handled it, not only in Charleston but all over this state. We can handle this tragedy without the interference of those who want to make it about some sort of agenda that would be far, far worse than it is already.
The fact Sharpton and his ilk have remained silent is deafening. It wouldn't surprise me that he tested the waters with the locals and was told in no uncertain terms to stay away.
As I follow the reporting on this story I continue to wonder about the Pastor/Senator that was killed.
He seems like a very nice man and committed Christian. I have a difficult time reconciling that with his affiliation with the democrat party. How does he do that? How does he vote on issues like abortion? Does he not see a great chasm between the democratic platform and the Bible?
The vast majority of children murdered by abortion are black. Does that not bother him?
Are the blacks so indelibly ensconced in the democratic party that they are blinded to anything else?
It truly boggles my mind! :ohmy:
Quote from: Solar on June 20, 2015, 06:09:15 AM
I agree, it isn't just a one issue, one size fits all answer.
The one overwhelming issue in all of this is, the kid was a freakin nut with drug problems, all the other factors merely reinforced his hatred for everything, including himself.
Many times these failed individuals focus on one issue to blame for their on failures in life, such as standing up for ones self, and it would appear his scapegoat was blacks.
^ This. You take all the mass killers and what do they have in common? They are young male misfits on drugs. What was the focus of the Columbine killers? The kid who murdered all those little kids? Holms, the Colorado theater shooter? Gabby Giffors' shooter? We had one at USB who stabbed three roommates and killed two girls at a sorority and two others. He was mad because the hot girls didn't pay attention to him.
Just found this, it says exactly what I've been thinking for a long time now.
TO STOP MASS KILLERS, WE HAVE TO STOP DRUGGING OUR YOUNG BOYS (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/19/how-our-touchy-feely-feminised-society-creates-young-male-killers/)
Roof is just the latest in a long line of young men who have committed appalling crimes after a lifetime on psychotropic drugs. If you don't believe me, consider some of the most notorious young male shooters in American history.
Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza? Lexapro and Celexa. Red-headed Aurora killer James Holmes? Clonazepam and sertraline. Virginia Tech mass murderer Seung-Hui Cho? Prozac. Charles Whitman, the "Texas Tower Sniper"? Dexedrine. Columbine executioners Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? Zoloft and Luvox.
You get the idea. These young men were all on prescribed medication. Feminism helped to get them there. In particular, female teachers who either dislike men or are completely ignorant of healthy behaviour norms for boys are creating a generation of emotionally stunted, drugged up young men.
Millions of young American men are prescribed powerful drugs after being diagnosed with the phantom condition "ADHD," better known as a mixture of natural boisterousness and poor parental discipline. The mere fact of being male has become pathologised.
When they get into their teens and early twenties, they graduate onto drugs like Zoloft and Prozac, drugs that can produce a powerfully dissociative effect in the mind, muddying the distinctions between reality and fantasy. All this, because boys are now treated as though they are defective girls.
Quote from: kit saginaw on June 18, 2015, 07:53:12 PM
It was way worse in the 60's. Racial unrest wasn't an illusion, like today's social-networking tries so hard to project. They're small-minded racial-nostalgists who missed-out on the factual relevance of past unrests... including soetoro.
Think about how huge the Country is.
I agree it was worse in the 60s. I wasn't in-country during the Detroit riots but the pernicious fallout from that one remains an indelible blotch on Democratic Party politics. Racial animus against Coleman (Steal With Both Hands) Young forced upheaval at local and regional levels, and began the Motor City's slide straight into the yawning jaws of community death.
People are people and economies go up and down and the jobs increase or shrink accordingly. It's not racial to be unemployed in Michigan --- not unless it's the Democrats who created the problems, now yelling for help on how to fix it so they can blame THAT failure on anyone but themselves.
Liberal media last night went into the berserkosphere trying to assign blame for what drugs did to this twisted piece of shit who today is lucky he wasn't capped during capture. Bill Maher blames Limbaugh, The Daily Caller and Drudge. Hilldabeast blames politicians. The Southern Poverty Law Center may as well blame George W. Bush.
The problem is, none of those were sitting there stuffing pills down this punk's gullet as he wrote his "manifesto," in copycat fashion
ala Ted Ka-whatshisname (that Unibomber hero of every pimple-picking would-be martyr like this punk). This murderous miscreant did it all by himself, a homicidal masturbation with weapons.
http://www.ajc.com/gallery/news/photos-charleston-unites-mourn-join-prayer/gCTSb/#7471396
I found these photos moving and self explanatory.
On a personal note, I was born, raised and always lived in the south in GA, MS and NC (I consider myself very fortunate having worked my entire career with a national corporation). Those who have never lived here do not understand the bond many White and Black folks have here. Most of us did not come from wealth and had the same struggles. In 1950 my best friend was a Black kid who lived down a dirt road behind our house. His mother did some house keeping for us. We visited in each others homes and shared meals there. When I went to school I asked My Dad why "Brother" did not attend the same school I did. He said that is just the way it is. There was never any derogatory words about Blacks in my home although the "N" word was common in those days. I am grateful the way my parents raised me concerning this issue. In my career I was fortunate to have the opportunity to work with many fine Black folks and they were some of the best sales people I had. I feel we connected because of our backgrounds.
This is a tragic event in Charleston. However, it is also is showing what is actually the "real story" about race relations in the South
http://powderedwigsociety.com/stay-away-charleston-tells-al-sharpton/
We may have an answer as to why Rev. Sharpton is missing in action.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 20, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
http://powderedwigsociety.com/stay-away-charleston-tells-al-sharpton/
We may have an answer as to why Rev. Sharpton is missing in action.
Great article. Thanks for posting it!
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 20, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
http://powderedwigsociety.com/stay-away-charleston-tells-al-sharpton/
We may have an answer as to why Rev. Sharpton is missing in action.
Sharpton may be missing, but Obama is on his way. It was just reported that Obama is going to speak at the pastor's funeral. He must be upset his race hustlers have notjoined in to try stir up locals. We should all pay attention to what Obama says. His history is he can't help himself when it comes to race. I truly expect him to try and stir it up. Let's just pray the good folks of SC reject his racism.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 22, 2015, 01:15:28 PM
Sharpton may be missing, but Obama is on his way. It was just reported that Obama is going to speak at the pastor's funeral. He must be upset his race hustlers have notjoined in to try stir up locals. We should all pay attention to what Obama says. His history is he can't help himself when it comes to race. I truly expect him to try and stir it up. Let's just pray the good folks of SC reject his racism.
Excellent points.
Gee, I wonder if he'll for an end to all the violence? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
Excellent points.
Gee, I wonder if he'll for an end to all the violence? :rolleyes:
Or question why there was no violence.
If Obama gets too feisty in his eulogy.. he might just get a backlash from the fine black people of Charleston!
They seem very firm in their no violence stance! It is their strong faith that rejects hate and violence. If it comes down to Obama or their faith, guess which they will choose? :wink:
Quote from: kroz on June 22, 2015, 03:13:20 PM
If Obama gets too feisty in his eulogy.. he might just get a backlash from the fine black people of Charleston!
They seem very firm in their no violence stance! It is their strong faith that rejects hate and violence. If it comes down to Obama or their faith, guess which they will choose? :wink:
If Obama comes down on guns and tries twisting this event into gun-grabbing, will those same parishioners turn their backs on this putz and renounce his politicizing this any more than it has been? They'd surely have that right, turned into pawns by a racist pile of trash who cannot wait to cause dissent.
Watch how fast the media doesn't report this if those hearing him speak did stand up, turn around, and, like those of strong faith, reject his hate and his grandstanding by simply standing there, silent.
Quote from: quiller on June 22, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
If Obama comes down on guns and tries twisting this event into gun-grabbing, will those same parishioners turn their backs on this putz and renounce his politicizing this any more than it has been? They'd surely have that right, turned into pawns by a racist pile of trash who cannot wait to cause dissent.
Watch how fast the media doesn't report this if those hearing him speak did stand up, turn around, and, like those of strong faith, reject his hate and his grandstanding by simply standing there, silent.
If he tries, I'd expect serious backlash, especially when you consider blacks, more than anyone can appreciate what the 2nd means. Freedom from any form of slavery.
Quote from: kroz on June 22, 2015, 03:13:20 PM
If Obama gets too feisty in his eulogy.. he might just get a backlash from the fine black people of Charleston!
They seem very firm in their no violence stance! It is their strong faith that rejects hate and violence. If it comes down to Obama or their faith, guess which they will choose? :wink:
This goes for all the Democrats, nation and world wide.
Almost immediately, Obama came under criticism for politicizing the tragedy. Stupid White House and Democratic Party couldn't take a hint. Could be they think it is end game for complete authoritarian system.
During the era of Jim Crow, wasn't it the N.R.A. that protected the rights of blacks to own firearms?
:huh:
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 22, 2015, 04:02:53 PM
During the era of Jim Crow, wasn't it the N.R.A. that protected the rights of blacks to own firearms?
:huh:
They should. Especially in the inner cities. A black woman from Baltimore was on tv last week who had one. She's been the victim of four home invasions.
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2015, 03:32:39 PM
If he tries, I'd expect serious backlash, especially when you consider blacks, more than anyone can appreciate what the 2nd means. Freedom from any form of slavery.
Are the inner city Dems even teaching the Constitution --- other than as a blatant example of the white hierarchy and capitalist oppressors whose unthinkable cruelty led to global warming and the Tea Party?
Quote from: quiller on June 22, 2015, 05:09:18 PM
Are the inner city Dems even teaching the Constitution --- other than as a blatant example of the white hierarchy and capitalist oppressors whose unthinkable cruelty led to global warming and the Tea Party?
Yes, but the South is not Detroit.
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
Yes, but the South is not Detroit.
b o thinks it is.
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
Yes, but the South is not Detroit.
Fair enough. And at least they can thank us for not exporting it, like we did the UAW.
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 22, 2015, 04:02:53 PM
During the era of Jim Crow, wasn't it the N.R.A. that protected the rights of blacks to own firearms?
:huh:
Exactly....then the Feds organized the freedmans bureau which were
armed and often led by BLACK ex union soldiers. South Carolina was one of the places Muarading former confederates would form was what to become one of the first branches of the KKK aimed at preventing "negro's" from voting.