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Title: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: tac on September 12, 2015, 06:35:32 AM
By Thomas Lifson
Using laugh-out-loud justification, Justice Department lawyers have asserted to a federal judge that Hillary Clinton should be trsuted to decide what records she chooses to delete, with no outside review. Ruby Kramer of Buzzfeed is correct: a brief filed by Justice Department attorneys on Wednesday, was "little-noticed." Yet it contains a shocking position for federal lawyers to assert to a court.

Department of Justice lawyers outlined a comprehensive defense of the contentious decision by Hillary Clinton to wipe the private email server she used as secretary of state: The attorneys assert that, regardless of whether she used a personal or government account, Clinton was within her legal right to handpick the emails that qualified as federal records — and to delete the ones she deemed personal.

Read more (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/stunning_justice_department_lawyers_argue_hillary_clinton_had_the_right_to_delete_any_emails_she_chose.html#ixzz3lWzcdqgl)



Nixon has been vindicated with this decision by DoJ.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: quiller on September 12, 2015, 07:07:11 AM
Tac, for copyright purposes please limit your quote to 200 words or not more than four short paragraphs, and then the link which you did give. The 200-word "fair use" limit is generally court-accepted and is not plagiarism. Use of longer material MUST be achieved in advance from the copyright owner.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: tac on September 12, 2015, 07:08:19 AM
Thanks I'll edit.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: quiller on September 12, 2015, 07:17:29 AM
Quote from: tac on September 12, 2015, 07:08:19 AM
Thanks I'll edit.

Longer quotes or the entire item leaves CPF open for charges of plagiarism, even if the true author's name and copyright owner are indicated in the quotation. The law? It be funny that way.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: tac on September 12, 2015, 07:46:40 AM
American Thinker copies the entire article even if you only select a small portion of it. I should have done a preview first, then posted. I am aware of the copyright laws, thanks.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: quiller on September 12, 2015, 09:17:02 AM
Quote from: tac on September 12, 2015, 07:46:40 AM
American Thinker copies the entire article even if you only select a small portion of it. I should have done a preview first, then posted. I am aware of the copyright laws, thanks.
Didn't mean to sound preachy. Just takin' an opportunity to explain it for others. Thanks.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: Ultra on September 12, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: tac on September 12, 2015, 06:35:32 AMThe attorneys assert that, regardless of whether she used a personal or government account, Clinton was within her legal right to handpick the emails that qualified as federal records — and to delete the ones she deemed personal.

So their strategy is to ignore the real question which is why was she using a private server in the first place? Seems risky, let's see if the judge is dumb enough to fall for it.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: walkstall on September 12, 2015, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ultra on September 12, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
So their strategy is to ignore the real question which is why was she using a private server in the first place? Seems risky, let's see if the judge is dumb enough to fall for it.

QuoteJustice Department lawyers have asserted to a federal judge that Hillary Clinton should be trusted to decide what records she chooses to delete, with no outside review.

The Justice Department will need to remember, "what's good for the goose is good for gander" also.   What is good for the politicians should also be good for the U.S.  everyday citizen.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: supsalemgr on September 12, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2015, 09:36:26 AM
The Justice Department will need to remember, "what's good for the goose is good for gander" also.   What is good for the politicians should also be good for the U.S.  everyday citizen.

The DOJ under this regime is a sham and just another arm of the democrat party.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: walkstall on September 12, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 12, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
The DOJ under this regime is a sham and just another arm of the democrat party.

You know that and I know that but not the uninformed voter(s).

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Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: tac on September 12, 2015, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Ultra on September 12, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
So their strategy is to ignore the real question which is why was she using a private server in the first place? Seems risky, let's see if the judge is dumb enough to fall for it.

If he or she is a `rat, then the dumb label applies.
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: redbeard on September 12, 2015, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Ultra on September 12, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
So their strategy is to ignore the real question which is why was she using a private server in the first place? Seems risky, let's see if the judge is dumb enough to fall for it.
This judge is the one over the judicial watch lawsuit! I don't think he will buy this argument! This was in response to his last order requiring more E-mail info. This federal judge does not play if he thinks he is being stonewalled. He has a past history of appointing special prosecutors to go after the justice dept. for hiding evidence from his court (Steveens case). He will come up with something creative!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: redbeard on September 22, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
QuoteFBI Said to Recover Personal E-Mails From Hillary Clinton Server

The FBI has recovered personal and work- related e-mails from the private computer server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as secretary of state, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation's success at salvaging personal e-mails that Clinton said had been deleted raises the possibility that the Democratic presidential candidate's correspondence eventually could become public. The disclosure of such e-mails would likely fan the controversy over Clinton's use of a private e-mail system for official business.

The FBI is investigating how and why classified information ended up on Clinton's server. The probe probably will take at least several more months, according to the person, who described the matter on condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing and deals with sensitive information.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-clinton-fbi-recovers/2015/09/22/id/6928...

Just won't go away!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: walkstall on September 22, 2015, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 22, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Just won't go away!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Quoteanonymity
:rolleyes:   :lol:
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: redbeard on September 22, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
QuoteClinton disputes report of new email discrepancy

Another apparent discrepancy has arisen in what Hillary Clinton has said about her emails.

When The Des Moines Register asked her about the latest twist in the private server saga on Tuesday, she said she had no new answers.

Just before Clinton sat down for a 105-minute meeting with the Register's editorial board, the Washington Post posted a news story that said the State Department's request for her emails was "prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system."

That contradicts what Clinton has been saying, which is that agency officials asked her for her emails as part of a benign, general record-keeping effort to sweep up "everything from other secretaries of state, not just me," as she said Sunday.

After the editorial board meeting, a Register reporter asked Clinton if she could explain the discrepancy between her characterization of why she turned over the emails and the State Department's.

"I don't know that. I can't answer that," Clinton answered. "All I know is that they sent the same letter to everybody. That's my understanding."
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/0...
WoW!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: redbeard on September 22, 2015, 07:26:46 PM
QuoteState Department's account of e-mail request differs from Clinton's

Throughout the controversy over her use of a private e-mail system while she was secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton has described her decision last year to turn over thousands of work-related e-mails as a response to a routine-sounding records request.

"When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I'm the one who said, 'Okay, great, I will go through them again,' " Clinton said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation." "And we provided all of them."

But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton's characterization. They said the request was not simply about general rec­ord-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails

In the process of responding to congressional document requests pertaining to Benghazi, State Department officials recognized that it had access to relatively few email records from former Secretary Clinton," State Department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement e-mailed to The Washington Post. "State Department officials contacted her representatives during the summer of 2014 to learn more about her email use and the status of emails in that account."

Kirby added that the agency then recognized "that we similarly did not have extensive email records from prior Secretaries of State and therefore included them when we requested their records in October 2014."

The State Department also realized it was not automatically preserving internal communications, with some other senior officials' e-mails missing.

The discrepancy between Clinton's timetable and the new information from the State Department prompted a terse letter Tuesday from Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, who has been investigating whether Clinton's e-mail practices compromised national security.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-departments-account-of-e-mail-reque...
Title: Re: Justice Dept lawyers argue Hillary Clinton had the right to delete any emails
Post by: Dori on September 22, 2015, 07:30:46 PM
Ha ha

Megyn Kelly is reporting that the FBI has recovered deleted e-mails off of her server.