Cop who hid behind his car during Parkland high school massacre wins back

Tory Potter · May 14, 2020, 06:00:12 PM

When I was getting fitted for my vest, I told the Sargeant if anyone pointed a gun at me I'd need Depends instead of a vest. I would hesitate calling anyone a coward until I've been in his shoes.

fred call · May 14, 2020, 06:14:23 PM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 05:56:01 PM
I was born and raised in Fort Lauderdale (Broward county) and knew many of the cops.

Knew Sheriff Nick Navarro (Head man) personally.

My very good friend David Lowe, (fought beside him in nam) was a BSO officer as well as another friend, David Farrell.

(Had a buddy, Jim Robinson on the Lauderdale police force)

Maybe things are different today but I KNOW, my friends would probably have taken unkindly to cowards!

LOL...Good old Uncle Nick. What a character. And a Republican in a Democrat stronghold.

No. Fort Lauderdale has changed....said understated.

Were you a Flying L? I was a Bulldog.

Ron Cochran started off a Lauderdale motorcycle cop. worked his way up.

The weirdest sheriff: Ken Jenne. Started out a Democrat state rep in Tally. Ended up in prison. LOL....

fred call · May 14, 2020, 06:24:06 PM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 05:45:51 PM
No but does an AK-47 count?
Shot at and ... shot!

(Just a leg wound)

Amen....

Walter Clark. He used to send a deputy to pick up the proceeds from Lucky Luciano's Carpet Clubs on Hallandale Beach Blvd at midnight. LOL......

fred call · May 14, 2020, 06:38:07 PM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 06:18:50 PM
As I have already said .. Not only was I shot at, I was also shot!

If I had hidden and allowed the massacre of the men in my unit .. I could look forward to a very confined future!

If I had pissed my pants, those same men ... Hell, I can't even imagine what they would have done to me!

And remember .. most of us were not even out of our teens and: Didn't Have The 'Luxury' Of Wearing A Vest!

(You don't sound like someone who I'd want to look out for me!)

Thank you very, very much for your service.

I went in the day after Martin Luther King was assassinated. Was at Fort Gordon when RFK was assassinated two month later..on my birthday, no less.

Those were the days, my friend.

Are you still in Lauderdale. I'm currently lockdowned in New Mexico. I don't think Icould handle South Florida during this Covid bullshit....LOL. Cae out here 13 yeas ago to prep. Now all that prepping is paying off. Living comfortably in my bug out home. LOL again. No. I couldn't take it there in all this mess, as much as I miss the beach. Paddleball on Garfield Street. Played a lot of games with retired NY cops.

fred call · May 14, 2020, 06:44:22 PM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 06:24:31 PM
I went to Northeast.
(A Hurricane)

Navarro jumped parties to get re-elected!
(Can't remember from what to what?)

Remember when "cops" started?

Navarro was in them all!

Say what you will, nick navarro was a big part of that shows success!

Yeah, Palm Beach native Burt Reynolds helped Nick launch Cops, and helped Nick become Sheeriff.

fred call · May 14, 2020, 07:15:40 PM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 07:06:18 PM
Back at ya my friend!

Left Florida over twenty years ago.

Live in Chesterfield, Virginia now.

Florida is actually one of the better places to be right now, I have heard?

Location. Location. Location...LOL

My son tells me it sucks. Oh, well. Better than some Yankee city.

Solar · May 14, 2020, 07:19:55 PM

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 14, 2020, 06:00:12 PM
When I was getting fitted for my vest, I told the Sargeant if anyone pointed a gun at me I'd need Depends instead of a vest. I would hesitate calling anyone a coward until I've been in his shoes.

I have! He's a pissy little coward!

Tory Potter · May 15, 2020, 07:28:40 AM

Quote from: mrclose on May 14, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
Tory, you a cop?

Sorry to have been so rough on you in my responses!

I had no idea that you were a female!

(After some of your remarks though .. I still wouldn't want you as a partner)

Just being honest.

No offence taken. I am male. I was an unarmed Peace Officer for 25 years with two commendations. I would have your back. My point is that I wasn't there at the shooting in Florida. I can't judge someone based on news broadcasts. If I don't know all of the details, what was going on in his mind, I refuse to judge him. This Deputy is going to wear his decision for the rest of his life.

fred call · May 15, 2020, 07:58:02 AM

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 15, 2020, 07:28:40 AM
No offence taken. I am male. I was an unarmed Peace Officer for 25 years with two commendations. I would have your back. My point is that I wasn't there at the shooting in Florida. I can't judge someone based on news broadcasts. If I don't know all of the details, what was going on in his mind, I refuse to judge him. This Deputy is going to wear his decision for the rest of his life.

I'm going to butt in with a true story.

I knew a guy who was a cop up in New England, somewhere. He told me about shooting and killing some guy, and even though the shooting was ruled justified, he resigned because in his mind, he did not know why he had to shoot the guy.

And I don't really know what this story has to do about anything, except I felt compelled to tell it.

Another true story.

A female cop comes upon a burning automobile with a woman trying to commit suicide, The female cop risked her life to crawl into the burning car to save the suicidal woman. The suicidal woman reached around to grab the female cops; gun and proceeds to shoot and kill her through the side of her vest.

The other cops shot and killed the suicidal woman.

Life and death is plain crazy sometimes.

taxed · May 17, 2020, 02:40:47 PM

Quote from: fred call on May 14, 2020, 11:36:52 AM
Any of you' ever been shot at by an AK?

No, but I've watched enough Vietnam movies to know that it looks like it hurts...

fred call · May 17, 2020, 02:56:44 PM

Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2020, 02:40:47 PM
No, but I've watched enough Vietnam movies to know that it looks like it hurts...

Sometimes the guy hit never knew what hit him. Instant eternity. They were the lucky ones who didn't die lying in agony with a belly wound in the elephant grass and there was too much fire to get an evac chopper in to attempt saving him.

Calypso Jones · May 17, 2020, 03:02:20 PM

Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2020, 02:40:47 PM
No, but I've watched enough Vietnam movies to know that it looks like it hurts...

couldn't possibly hurt. They all get up and continue to fight their way through...some even jump off a 20 foot roof and don't break any legs or arms.

taxed · May 17, 2020, 03:20:55 PM

Quote from: fred call on May 17, 2020, 02:56:44 PM
Sometimes the guy hit never knew what hit him. Instant eternity. They were the lucky ones who didn't die lying in agony with a belly wound in the elephant grass and there was too much fire to get an evac chopper in to attempt saving him.

Are you saying you experienced this?

fred call · May 17, 2020, 03:52:16 PM

Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2020, 03:20:55 PM
Are you saying you experienced this?

LOL....YA' THINK?

taxed · May 17, 2020, 04:07:39 PM

Quote from: fred call on May 17, 2020, 03:52:16 PM
LOL....YA' THINK?

Should I make a separate board for you since you seem to want to post about it? That way you can post all your war stuff. We have members on this board who went through it. MDGiles, for example, had his entire hip blown off. Odd, he doesn't feel the need to inject it into his posts.

Let me know and we can make you feel special, as if you're the only one on the forum with such experiences.