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Concerning the ( soon to emerge ) Antichrist and False Prophet   ( Revelation 13 )
what are we Christians to anticipate ( Matthew 24 ) before the return of Jesus Christ

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hear also: the day of the Lord ><> \<><

07 trending toward Rampant cultural / sexual perversion

For even though they knew (about) God .. they did not honor him as God or give thanks .. but they became futile in their speculations .. and their foolish heart was darkened .. professing to be wise .. they became fools .. and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures .. therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity .. so that their bodies would be dishonored among them .. for they exchanged the truth of God for a lie .. and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator .. who is blessed forever . . . amen .. for this reason God gave them over to degrading passions .. for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural .. and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another .. men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error .. and just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer .. God gave them over to a depraved mind .. to do those things which are not proper .. being filled with all unrighteousness .. wickedness .. greed .. evil .. full of envy .. murder .. strife .. deceit .. malice .. they are gossips .. slanderers .. haters of God .. insolent .. arrogant .. boastful .. inventors of evil .. disobedient to parents .. without understanding .. untrustworthy .. unloving .. unmerciful .. and although they know the ordinance of God .. that those who practice such things are worthy of death .. they not only do the same .. but also give hearty approval to those who practice them .....  <><  <><

Keep going, Dadman.

FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
AND WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES;
OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM."'

Acts 28:27

Quote from: kroz on June 14, 2015, 01:19:19 PM
FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
AND WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES;
OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM."'

Acts 28:27

Profound scripture.

Testimony, more likely than not, comes from the mouths and hearts of believers. I just heard a pastor of nearly fifty years testify to a moving experience. It was almost
like a death bed vision, though he is in perfect health. There wasn't a dry eye in the house by the time he had finished. One bonus was a wonderful testimony to his wife and family, some of whom were in the house. This kind if thing happens a lot.

My point is, the majority of convincing experiences come to those who commit and seek, not to those who are suddenly struck, walking down the road. So, what are non believers to make of all this? Really, they can't make much of it.  How come we cannot simply not bother? That's really what they want.

Our Sunday message began with the announcement that the Scriptures are NOT politically correct....... nor was Jesus Christ.

Not that we didn't all already know that, but it was a poignant reminder to the things that set us apart from the world.  We see and hear the words given to us by God.  The world does not, and cannot.

Therefore the chasm between the believers and the world will grow increasingly wide.

The persecution will increase.

Yes, it reads, "The heart of this people has become dull."

That indicates that at one time, the people had open and joyous hearts. That does not mean they were once Christians, by any means. What it does say, though, for one reason or another the people's hearts have "grown" dull.

Not the natural state. Satanic? Maybe. Or, maybe just plain old human nature at times when the King was a jerk.

Quote from: dadman on June 12, 2015, 12:38:49 PM

Is that a picture of the Pope I see on your website, insinuating that Catholicism is a "false religion"?

I have my share of problems with the RCC, but it may interest you to know that the RCC is doing everything it can to maintain the sanctity of marriage in this generation, despite what the U.S. Supreme Court says. It is also trying to beat back the plague of abortion in America and around the world.

It may also interest you to know that your apparent theology, known as "dispensationalism", is in fact a false doctrine, invented in the 1800's by John Nelson Darby, and was never taught by the historic Church. I know because I was raised on this tripe and eventually recanted.

We've got enough problems without dividing the Church and accusing fellow Christians of being anti-Christs. Let he who has ears, hear.

The Catholic Church has traditionally been a rock solid advocate for life.  The current Pope concerns me with his enthusiastic embrace of "global warming."  The "science" behind it has been proven false.  It's really just an excuse for "liberation theology" which John Paul II strongly rebuked, and is just a way to enslave the people to the world's ruling clique.
In short, the current Pope is really looking like a Trojan Horse.

Quote from: je_freedom on July 22, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
The Catholic Church has traditionally been a rock solid advocate for life.  The current Pope concerns me with his enthusiastic embrace of "global warming."  The "science" behind it has been proven false.  It's really just an excuse for "liberation theology" which John Paul II strongly rebuked, and is just a way to enslave the people to the world's ruling clique.
In short, the current Pope is really looking like a Trojan Horse.

I myself think your being very nice in saying that.  Each day he looks like he is moving more and more to the Dark Side.

Quote from: je_freedom on July 22, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
The Catholic Church has traditionally been a rock solid advocate for life.  The current Pope concerns me with his enthusiastic embrace of "global warming."  The "science" behind it has been proven false.  It's really just an excuse for "liberation theology" which John Paul II strongly rebuked, and is just a way to enslave the people to the world's ruling clique.
In short, the current Pope is really looking like a Trojan Horse.

Number one, he's not an American, so he doesn't talk like one. Number two, he sticks his foot in his mouth a lot, the Catholic spin doctors are constantly translating for him. Personally, I think he is a doddering old man, he's not the anti-Christ.

Quote from: Reverend on July 23, 2015, 01:12:54 AM
Number one, he's not an American, so he doesn't talk like one. Number two, he sticks his foot in his mouth a lot, the Catholic spin doctors are constantly translating for him. Personally, I think he is a doddering old man, he's not the anti-Christ.

But he has an incredible amount of influence around the world.  You cannot just shrug him off!  Millions believe he speaks for God.   :ohmy:

Quote from: walkstall on July 22, 2015, 09:41:40 PM
I myself think your being very nice in saying that.  Each day he looks like he is moving more and more to the Dark Side.

He comes from a socialist country and obviously leans that way. I am not Catholic, but I believe we see more internal strife within the church as the Pope pushes a more socialist/liberal agenda.

Quote from: je_freedom on July 22, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
The Catholic Church has traditionally been a rock solid advocate for life.  The current Pope concerns me with his enthusiastic embrace of "global warming."  The "science" behind it has been proven false.  It's really just an excuse for "liberation theology" which John Paul II strongly rebuked, and is just a way to enslave the people to the world's ruling clique.
In short, the current Pope is really looking like a Trojan Horse.

Well said. I'll say it though, he's a Marxist.

Quote from: kroz on July 23, 2015, 03:51:36 AM
But he has an incredible amount of influence around the world.  You cannot just shrug him off!  Millions believe he speaks for God.   :ohmy:

But they still use birth control. Keep calm and carry on.

Bob Unruh on state mandated pastors' signatures.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/state-forbids-pastors-calling-homosexuality-sinful/

Quote from: red_dirt on July 25, 2015, 07:24:34 AM
Bob Unruh on state mandated pastors' signatures.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/state-forbids-pastors-calling-homosexuality-sinful/

That will be the day...

Only God know's when the end times come, and so many things that has to come before it seems to be far away. The reconstruction of the Temple (I pray this happen in my lifetime) and that Israel will be at peace with it's closest neighbor (not really the case today).

So I don't give the end times much thought other than that is when my soul will be resurrected as I understand the theology.

Quote from: kroz on June 15, 2015, 05:25:10 PM
Our Sunday message began with the announcement that the Scriptures are NOT politically correct....... nor was Jesus Christ.

Not that we didn't all already know that, but it was a poignant reminder to the things that set us apart from the world.  We see and hear the words given to us by God.  The world does not, and cannot.

Therefore the chasm between the believers and the world will grow increasingly wide.

The persecution will increase.

Yeah the Bible clearly tell us to be outsiders to society when it comes to it popular culture. Which has been hard for us neo-Christians since Christianity has been popular culture for so many centuries we are now back to being outsiders.

Quote from: Mountainshield on July 30, 2015, 09:47:06 AM
Yeah the Bible clearly tell us to be outsiders to society when it comes to it popular culture. Which has been hard for us neo-Christians since Christianity has been popular culture for so many centuries we are now back to being outsiders.

We did not become one of the dominant forces because we have nothing to say.  Neither were we one of the driving forces behind America's settlement, independence, and governing documents.

We are being marginalized, according to many observers, because the national  leadership has been occupied by Godless Communists and foreign sympathizers.
When Ted Cruz says, "Break the Washington Cartel," he might well phrase it, "clean out the nest of vipers."

In order to degrade America, according to communist strategy, and I quote, "There must be no standing belief in the church, and the power of the church must be denied at every hand."

Everywhere we look, we see this agenda in place. It has heightened especially during this administration, but really, we are talking about a long term communist mission.

Here is a little week end read. Quick and easy refresher on a little understood part of our history. We always pick up a little info previously overlooked.  :biggrin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

Quote from: red_dirt on August 07, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
Here is a little week end read. Quick and easy refresher on a little understood part of our history. We always pick up a little info previously overlooked.  :biggrin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

Good read.  Thanks red.

I have always been fascinated with the Byzantine Empire and the historical significance of Constantinople (Istanbul).  So I was thrilled when my husband suggested we take a trip there.  It was an amazing peek into centuries of historical ruins and a cultural blend of East and West.  It has long been a geographically strategic place to control politically. 

Can you imagine the concern in Christian circles when Constantine decided to wed the "church" and State?  There were undoubtedly some who thought it would be the end of Christianity.

But nothing can destroy what God has created for His people.  The true faith survived.... but went through many dark days.

One thing I have heard recently is that the horrors and atrocities of the Byzantine Empire were so traumatic that the Christians, Jews, and Gentiles of Northern and Southern Europe simply erased that period from their memories and history, blamed it on the Huns, and called it the Dark Ages.

Quote from: Reverend on July 21, 2015, 01:49:16 AM

Quote from: dadman on June 12, 2015, 12:38:49 PM

Is that a picture of the Pope I see on your website, insinuating that Catholicism is a "false religion"?

I have my share of problems with the RCC, but it may interest you to know that the RCC is doing everything it can to maintain the sanctity of marriage in this generation, despite what the U.S. Supreme Court says. It is also trying to beat back the plague of abortion in America and around the world.

It may also interest you to know that your apparent theology, known as "dispensationalism", is in fact a false doctrine, invented in the 1800's by John Nelson Darby, and was never taught by the historic Church. I know because I was raised on this tripe and eventually recanted.

We've got enough problems without dividing the Church and accusing fellow Christians of being anti-Christs. Let he who has ears, hear.

well, I'm sorry but I see the RCC still in need of evangelization .... no Church or Organization can save you ... there is only ONE head of the Church ... no MAN has the power to forgive sin ... there is now therefore NO MORE sacrifice for sins ... in other words "IT IS FINISHED" ... and yes my eye is on the pope as the possible Rev 13 False prophet

Quote from: dadman on August 12, 2015, 10:53:04 AM
well, I'm sorry but I see the RCC still in need of evangelization .... no Church or Organization can save you ... there is only ONE head of the Church ... no MAN has the power to forgive sin ... there is now therefore NO MORE sacrifice for sins ... in other words "IT IS FINISHED" ... and yes my eye is on the pope as the possible Rev 13 False prophet

Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in. 

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 02:03:10 AM
Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in.

Agreed.  It'd be like God musing:  " Well, Jesus was a flop so I might as well destroy the planet after only 2,000 solar-orbits. "

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 16, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Agreed.  It'd be like God musing:  " Well, Jesus was a flop so I might as well destroy the planet after only 2,000 solar-orbits. "

...and the Jews are just out of luck...

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 05:17:10 AM
...and the Jews are just out of luck...

Depending on who your listening to.   :lol:

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 02:03:10 AM
Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in.

wow !! ... you really got me on that one ... especially since you backed up your position with scripture lol .... What Difference does it make / rightly dividing the Word of Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwMjcJvyF2Q

Let this sink in

Quote from: dadman on August 16, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
wow !! ... you really got me on that one ... especially since you backed up your position with scripture lol .... What Difference does it make / rightly dividing the Word of Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwMjcJvyF2Q

Let this sink in

I'll tell you what, why don't you back up YOUR position with scripture? Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture. Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ. Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop. Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience. Show me where it says that none of this has happened before.

You are engaging in the logical fallacy of "begging the question":

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html

By the way, I have never even heard of that guy.

Quote from: walkstall on August 16, 2015, 05:44:25 AM
Depending on who your listening to.   :lol:

It always does...

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 01:54:40 PM

Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture

the concept is displayed "caught up"

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord .. that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord .. will not precede those who have fallen asleep .. for the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout .. with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God .. and the dead in Christ will rise first .. then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air .. and so we shall always be with the Lord .. therefore comfort one another with these words ..... 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18

Jesus: because you have kept the word of my perseverance .. I also will keep you from (out of) the hour of testing ... that hour which is about to come upon the whole world .. to test those who dwell on the earth .... Revelation 3:10

QuoteShow me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ

The rapture of the faithful in contrast to the Revelation of Jesus at His coming

Christ comes for His own 1Th 4:13-18 ----- Christ returns with His own Rev 19:14

Believers taken to Father's House Joh 14:3 ----- Believers come with Jesus to Earth Mat 24:30

He is seen only by believers 1Co 15:52 ----- Every eye will see Him Mat 24:30

Earth not judged ----- Earth judged Rev 20:4-5

A Mystery - 1 Co 15:51 ----- Foretold in OT Zech 12:10

Christians taken first 1Th 4:13-18 3 Mat 13:28-30 ----- Wicked are taken first Mat 25:1-13; Rev 3:8-10; Rev 4:1,

He comes to present the Church to Himself 2 Co 11:2 -----
He comes with His Church for judgement and to set up his Kingdom Rev 19:6-9, Zec 14:3-4; Jud 1:14-15; Rev 19:11-21

Casts Satan out of heaven to earth Rev 12 ----- Binds Satan for a thousand years Rev 20

Occurs in the twinkling of an eye 1Co 15:52 ----- Comes to earth to do battle at specific locations Isa 63:1-3, Rev 16:16, Zec 12:9-10

Jesus descends with a shout. 1Th 4:16 8 ----- No shout mentioned Rev 19:11-21

QuoteShow me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop

I never said he is ... no not the antichrist but the false prophet of Rev 13

In the midst of the Tribulation period there shall rise up two great world leaders .. one a political leader inspired by Satan himself .. the other religious leader to deceive the people with strong delusions and either lead them or force them to worship the anti-christ as the long expected world-ruler .. these two Satanic deceivers shall prevail upon all except those who risk all to boldly acknowledge their belief in the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world

I'm watching him closely ...... If the Final False Prophet spoken of in Revelation 13 is indeed Pope Francis .. then >> I'm expecting << all of the secular humanistic left / atheistic / false-religious-system / anti-christ / homosexual / and all the Biblical Harlot folk spoken about in Revelation 17 to glob-on to / applaud / accept and follow this guy .. He will literally rally them all together >> UNITY << will indeed be the theme ...... My real point of observation will be IF & WHEN Pope Francis gets on the same page with and starts pointing to and singing the praises of a particular (RISING STAR) powerful political figure ........ time will tell (written in 2013)

QuoteShow me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop

Anti Christ = stands in the place of Christ ... < exactly what the Pope and Vatican claim

QuoteShow me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience

the answer to your last question also answers this one

QuoteShow me where it says that none of this has happened before ... the opening of the 7 seal / trumpet and bowl judgements

show me where the events of Revelation 6 thru 11 have happened before

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Quotethe concept is displayed "caught up"

I understand the concept. I also understand that the verses you quote have nothing to do with one another. One is to the congregation at Thessalonica, talking about the second coming of Christ, the other is to the Church in Philadelphia, with a promise to keep them from an hour of "trial".

Here is what the very verse you also quote in 1 Cor. says about the "mystery" you claim is the rapture:

QuoteBehold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

"At the last trump". What does that mean? It means the LAST TRUMPET. The last trumpet, the end of it all, turn out the lights, the party's over, it's all over but the shouting. This is no "pre-trib rapture", this is the end of time.

You need to READ and UNDERSTAND instead of trying to shoehorn your own beliefs into them. That's all I have time for now. I'll let you deal with those details before I speak to the rest of this stuff.

Quote from: Reverend on August 17, 2015, 01:28:38 AMI understand the concept .. the verses you quote have nothing to do with one another

well no ... that is because they are describing two very different events

QuoteOne is to the congregation at Thessalonica, talking about the second coming of Christ

no not really .... Christ comes for His own 1Th 4:13-18 < this has nothing to do with the return of Jesus to establish his Kingdom on Earth ....
that does not happen until Rev 19

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord .. that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord ..
will not precede those who have fallen asleep .. for the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout ..
with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God .. and the dead in Christ will rise first ..
then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air ..
and so we shall always be with the Lord .. therefore comfort one another with these words ..... 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18

QuoteThe other is to the Church in Philadelphia, with a promise to keep them from an hour of "trial"

Jesus: because you have kept the word of my perseverance .. I also will keep you from THE hour of testing .. THAT hour > which is about to come upon the whole world < .. to test those who dwell on the earth  < [all mankind]

well first you need to quote the scripture correctly ... the word "THE" ... not "an" .... don't attempt to "shoehorn" the meaning to fit your own theology lol

Revelation 3:10 is speaking SPECIFICALLY of the Great Tribulation period .... sorry but the Children of God are not appointed to God's wrath ....

1 Thess 5:09 .. for God has not destined us for wrath .. but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ  < thank you Jesus

QuoteHere is what the very verse you also quote in 1 Cor. says about the "mystery" you claim is the rapture:

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

"At the last trump". What does that mean? It means the LAST TRUMPET.  The last trumpet, the end of it all, turn out the lights, the party's over, it's all over but the shouting. This is no "pre-trib rapture", this is the end of time.

"this is the end of time" ... well no .... the 7th Trumpet announces and displays the 7 Bowls of the final Wrath of God ... THEN Jesus returns to establish his Kingdom Rev 19

The 7th Trumpet is NOT the Last trump. The only thing they have in common is that they are trumpets.
You might as well tie Aaron's trumpet into it, if you're going to pick and choose trumpets.
There are lots of trumpets in the bible. They:

• Regulate the journeys of the children of Israel.
• Call assemblies.
• Blow over the sacrifices on the feast day.
• Blow at all religious processions and ceremonies.
• Assemble the people to war.
• Sound for a memorial when the people went into battle.
• Proclaim kings.
• Give alarm in cases of danger.
• Announce miracles being performed

http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/09/last-trump-of-corinthians-and-7th.html

show me scripture referring to the Church after Revelation 4 (other than the RCC Rev 17 Harlot) yes indeed the Whore of Babylon ((Mother "church" / drunk w/ the blood of the Saints) < those coming to salvation DURING this period and killed) will be here during that time < and your defense of this Harlot (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=768#p768) does not help you at all .. sorry

Before God pours his wrath on this planet .... he pulls his children home (the tribulation period) we return WITH him to rule and reign WITH him for 1000 years .... and then the story continues

You need to READ and UNDERSTAND instead of trying to shoehorn your own beliefs into them lol

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY  .............. When they (THE 2 WITNESSES) have finished their testimony .. the beast that comes up out of the abyss (ANTI-CHRIST) will make war with them .. and overcome them and kill them .. and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt .. where also their Lord was crucified .. those from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their dead bodies for > THREE AND A HALF DAYS < .. and will not permit their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb .. and > those who dwell on the earth < (GLOBAL MANKIND) will rejoice over them and celebrate .. and they will send gifts to one another .. because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth .. but after the three and a half days .. the breath of life from God came into them .. and they stood on their feet .. and great fear fell upon those who were watching them < (GLOBAL MANKIND) .. and they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them . . . come up here .. then they went up into heaven in the cloud .. and their enemies < (GLOBAL MANKIND) watched them .. and in that hour there was a great earthquake .. and a tenth of the city fell .. seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake .. and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven ........ Revelation 11:7-13

QUESTION = how long has it been possible for > those who dwell on the earth  < (GLOBAL MANKIND)
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Quoteno not really .... Christ comes for His own 1Th 4:13-18 < this has nothing to do with the return of Jesus to establish his Kingdom on Earth ....
that does not happen until Rev 19

Prove it, prove all of it. And I don't mean by repeating the same thing over and over again, I mean by sound Biblical exegesis, if you know what that is, which I doubt.

Quotewell first you need to quote the scripture correctly ... the word "THE" ... not "an" .... don't attempt to "shoehorn" the meaning to fit your own theology lol

I read it in the Greek, THE hour is just an hour, or a period of time, or a time when something is to happen. It can happen any time and has already happened, read your Church history to see the persecution of the Church in the 1st century. I mean you DO at least know that most of the Apostles were martyred, don't you? This is not to mention the Church fathers who were tortured and killed for their beliefs, like Polycarp.

QuoteRevelation 3:10 is speaking SPECIFICALLY of the Great Tribulation period ....

Nope, it's not, in the Greek it's just an hour.

Quoteshow me scripture referring to the Church after Revelation 4

Do you know what Rev. 4 really is? Take a wild guess.

Quoteother than the RCC Rev 17 Harlot) yes indeed the Whore of Babylon ((Mother "church" / drunk w/ the blood of the Saints) < those coming to salvation DURING this period and killed) will be here during that time < and your defense of this Harlot does not help you at all .. sorry

You are a sick, sick, sick individual. The "whore of Babylon" is ancient Pagan Rome, the history speaks for itself. People like you have been telling us the end of the world is coming for the past 100+ years, but I have news for you - it's going to get much, much worse, and you are going to be surprised when you end up smack dab in the "tribulation" you thought you were going to escape.

Prove it prove all of it And I don't mean by repeatin tha same thang over n' over again n' again n' again I mean by sound Biblical exegesis if you know what tha frack dat is which I doubt I read it up in tha Greek THE minute is just a minute or a period of time or a time when suttin' is ta happen It can happen any time n' has already happened read yo' Church history ta peep tha persecution of tha Church up in tha 1st century I mean you do at least know dat most of tha Apostlez was martyred dont you This aint ta mention tha Church fathers whoz ass was tortured n' capped fo' they beliefs like Polycarp Nope it aint up in tha Greek itz just a minute do you know what tha frack Rev 4 straight-up is take a wild guess Yo ass be a sick sick sick individual Da whore of Babylon be ancient Pagan Rome tha history speaks fo' itself Muthafrackas like you done been spittin some lyrics ta our asses tha end of tha ghetto is comin fo' tha past 100+ muthafrackn years but I have shizzle fo' you itz goin ta git much much worse n' yo ass is goin ta be surprised when you end up smack dab up in tha tribulation you thought you was goin ta escape n stuff

later "reverend" lol ....
I don't waste time with those of clenched fists and gnashing teeth ...
better things to do .. like read the book of Revelation < it's there for a reason ... pEaCeoUt dUdE :) be blessed

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 06:19:19 AM
Prove it prove all of it And I don't mean by repeatin tha same thang over n' over again n' again n' again I mean by sound Biblical exegesis if you know what tha frack dat is which I doubt I read it up in tha Greek THE minute is just a minute or a period of time or a time when suttin' is ta happen It can happen any time n' has already happened read yo' Church history ta peep tha persecution of tha Church up in tha 1st century I mean you do at least know dat most of tha Apostlez was martyred dont you This aint ta mention tha Church fathers whoz ass was tortured n' capped fo' they beliefs like Polycarp Nope it aint up in tha Greek itz just a minute do you know what tha frack Rev 4 straight-up is take a wild guess Yo ass be a sick sick sick individual Da whore of Babylon be ancient Pagan Rome tha history speaks fo' itself Muthafrackas like you done been spittin some lyrics ta our asses tha end of tha ghetto is comin fo' tha past 100+ muthafrackn years but I have shizzle fo' you itz goin ta git much much worse n' yo ass is goin ta be surprised when you end up smack dab up in tha tribulation you thought you was goin ta escape n stuff

later "reverend" lol ....
I don't waste time with those of clenched fists and gnashing teeth ...
better things to do .. like read the book of Revelation (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=64#p64) < it's there for a reason ... pEaCeoUt dUdE :) be blessed

Sorry, you lost with that lousy excuse for a response.
That came off as if some punk in da hood with the experience and worldly exposure of 20 years on the same block, was preaching to a well seasoned world traveler.

I'm not trying to be insulting, you just need to know how that came off to the readers of this forum.
There's a reason people don't text or use ghetto on this forum, it exposes ones intellectual failures with their every post.

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 06:19:19 AM
Prove it prove all of it And I don't mean by repeatin tha same thang over n' over again n' again n' again I mean by sound Biblical exegesis if you know what tha frack dat is which I doubt I read it up in tha Greek THE minute is just a minute or a period of time or a time when suttin' is ta happen It can happen any time n' has already happened read yo' Church history ta peep tha persecution of tha Church up in tha 1st century I mean you do at least know dat most of tha Apostlez was martyred dont you This aint ta mention tha Church fathers whoz ass was tortured n' capped fo' they beliefs like Polycarp Nope it aint up in tha Greek itz just a minute do you know what tha frack Rev 4 straight-up is take a wild guess Yo ass be a sick sick sick individual Da whore of Babylon be ancient Pagan Rome tha history speaks fo' itself Muthafrackas like you done been spittin some lyrics ta our asses tha end of tha ghetto is comin fo' tha past 100+ muthafrackn years but I have shizzle fo' you itz goin ta git much much worse n' yo ass is goin ta be surprised when you end up smack dab up in tha tribulation you thought you was goin ta escape n stuff

later "reverend" lol ....
I don't waste time with those of clenched fists and gnashing teeth ...
better things to do .. like read the book of Revelation (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=64#p64) < it's there for a reason ... pEaCeoUt dUdE :) be blessed

dadman your a big boy use the quote function, not the copy and paste.

Quote from: walkstall on August 18, 2015, 06:40:40 AM
dadman your a big boy use the quote function, not the copy and paste.

so .... how many here believe Revelation 17  has already taken place ?

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 07:43:56 AM
so .... how many here believe Revelation 17 has already taken place ?

Myself I don't care if it has or not.  When it come time for the end it will come.  God did not intend for us to know everything before it happens.  If so I think it would take a lot of fun out of life.   

Quote from: walkstall on August 18, 2015, 07:59:30 AM
Myself I don't care if it has or not.  When it come time for the end it will come.  God did not intend for us to know everything before it happens.  If so I think it would take a lot of fun out of life.

Wow !! .. you're a real idiot aren't you .......... your ignorance has BANNED you

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 08:05:48 AM
Wow !! .. you're a real idiot aren't you .......... your ignorance has BANNED you

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1499879%2Fthumbs%2Fo-POT-MEET-KETTLE-570.jpg%3F1&hash=03b02f60267f8765a10279fa34d8d0bb89e9a8d2)

Hmm... Matthew 7:1 Judge not that ye be not judged, or something like that. 

This is too bad.

I've been following this thread with interest and was hoping for a better ending.

I am familiar with both sides of this argument and was enjoying the banter.

I will make two observations.

1) Always be suspicious of anyone designating themselves as "Reverend".  We all have feet of clay and there are none Reverend except God Himself. 

Someone calling themselves Reverend on this forum is trying to intimidate the reader.

2) I have studied both sides of this argument extensively.  There are wise men of great theological renown on either side.  I do not condemn any of them on their sincere belief and commitment to truth.  I have great respect for those on both sides.  Both sides have strengths and weaknesses.

However, theologically I am convinced that Dadman is fundamentally correct.  I've spent many years on both sides of this debate but cannot embrace the concept that all prophecy has been fulfilled already.  It defies logical exegetics. 

Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 08:59:53 AM
This is too bad.

I've been following this thread with interest and was hoping for a better ending.

I am familiar with both sides of this argument and was enjoying the banter.

I will make two observations.

1) Always be suspicious of anyone designating themselves as "Reverend".  We all have feet of clay and there are none Reverend except God Himself. 

Someone calling themselves Reverend on this forum is trying to intimidate the reader.

2) I have studied both sides of this argument extensively.  There are wise men of great theological renown on either side.  I do not condemn any of them on their sincere belief and commitment to truth.  I have great respect for those on both sides.  Both sides have strengths and weaknesses.

However, theologically I am convinced that Dadman is fundamentally correct.  I've spent many years on both sides of this debate but cannot embrace the concept that all prophecy has been fulfilled already.  It defies logical exegetics.

I never take sides in Christian debate where conjecture of faith is concerned, it's all opinion anyway, considering none of us truly knows what the future holds.
For all we know, it's already happened and we're all living purgatory, especially when you look at the mess the left has created in removing God from the equation.

But my issue was with the level of immaturity of Dadmans exit from the debate, which appeared more of a concession for someone unable to posit their position.
Too bad, considering were all on the same side.

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 09:18:37 AM
But my issue was with the level of immaturity of Dadmans exit from the debate

Did I leave the debate ?? .. no, I BANNED walkstall ... for being a, well okay I apologize for calling him an idiot, maybe I should have used another term like a water-head or dunder-head oh I know, how bout a pea-brain .. lol ...... the kind of un-Biblical crap I got from this so-called "reverend" is the same kind of crap I get from an unbeliever parading as a Christian .. an unsaved individual .... HECK NO Revelation has not begun yet, and the Antichrist (whoever he might be) I believe is ready to emerge probably preceded by his false prophet ... they will deceive many .. they will entrap many < ESPECIALLY those so-called "christians" unfamiliar with the Book of Revelation or even worse render it to the past and therefore irrelevant to this time and age .... open your eyes folks, the time for preaching and teaching God's truth is NOW .. don't let these decievers intimidate you ... the time is at hand and the fields are ripe

Remember Dadman, patience is a virtue.  It is a fruit of the Spirit of God.

There is a right way and wrong way to accomplish most things.

Eph 4:2
with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love,

Eph 4:3
being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 11:00:33 AM
Did I leave the debate ?? .. no, I BANNED walkstall ... for being a, well okay I apologize for calling him an idiot, maybe I should have used another term like a water-head or dunder-head oh I know, how bout a pea-brain .. lol ...... the kind of un-Biblical crap I got from this so-called "reverend" is the same kind of crap I get from an unbeliever parading as a Christian .. an unsaved individual .... HECK NO Revelation (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=726#p726) has not begun yet, and the Antichrist (whoever he might be) I believe is ready to emerge probably preceded by his false prophet ... they will deceive many .. they will entrap many < ESPECIALLY those so-called "christians" unfamiliar with the Book of Revelation (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=726#p726) or even worse render it to the past and therefore irrelevant to this time and age .... open your eyes folks, the time for preaching and teaching God's truth is NOW .. don't let these decievers intimidate you ... the time is at hand and the fields are ripe

Hello!!  YOU can not BANNED me.  Now you can stop replying if you like.  But like you I have right to say what I like.  There is a God, how we get there is up to us. 

Now if you don't like what I say it give you room to do a lot more preaching on this forum.  Be you right or wrong it up to the reader to decide for themselves.  We are not children we are adults and can think for ourselves be it right or wrong by your way of thinking.   

You need to learn for kroz when I post something that she doesn't agree with she post a reply.  She lays it out for me, I can take it or leave it.  All this is just my way of thinking. 

Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 11:17:55 AM
Remember Dadman, patience is a virtue.  It is a fruit of the Spirit of God.

There is a right way and wrong way to accomplish most things .. Eph 4:2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, .. Eph 4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace

Indeed and I agree ... where was this advice when the "rev" labeled me a "sick, sick, sick individual" / "People like you" ?

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 11:30:36 AM
Indeed and I agree ... where was this advice when the "rev" labeled me a "sick, sick, sick individual" / "People like you" ?

You engaged with the "Reverend".  It was your debate, not mine.

You should be able to fight your own battles.  You knew from his "name" what you were up against.  He wasn't interested in learning anything.  He is here to teach only!!

You weren't going to teach him anything and you lost your opportunity to teach other readers anything.  That is unfortunate because I am sure you are theologically astute.

Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 11:53:32 AMYou engaged with the "Reverend".  It was your debate, not mine

then why is your advice to me and nothing to Rev ?

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 12:09:48 PM
then why is your advice to me and nothing to Rev ?

Because he is not teachable.  Hopefully, you are.   :wink:

Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 12:13:14 PM
Because he is not teachable

lol ... you hear that "rev" ?? ... you're not teachable .. lol .. yall killn me  

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 12:17:47 PM
lol ... you hear that "rev" ?? ... you're not teachable .. lol .. yall killn me

And you call yourself a man of God.   :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 11:00:33 AM
Did I leave the debate ?? .. no, I BANNED walkstall ... for being a, well okay I apologize for calling him an idiot, maybe I should have used another term like a water-head or dunder-head oh I know, how bout a pea-brain .. lol

LOL! You can't ban my Mods. They, on the other can ban anyone they want to, I give them free call. :wink:

Quote...... the kind of un-Biblical crap I got from this so-called "reverend" is the same kind of crap I get from an unbeliever parading as a Christian .. an unsaved individual .... HECK NO Revelation has not begun yet, and the Antichrist (whoever he might be) I believe is ready to emerge probably preceded by his false prophet ... they will deceive many .. they will entrap many < ESPECIALLY those so-called "christians" unfamiliar with the Book of Revelation (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=726#p726) or even worse render it to the past and therefore irrelevant to this time and age .... open your eyes folks, the time for preaching and teaching God's truth is NOW .. don't let these decievers intimidate you ... the time is at hand and the fields are ripe[/i][/size][/color]

I understand, but debate, don't just write someone off. To those following the thread, your post appears as if you were unable to debate his points and resorted to childish insults.
That's my entire point.

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 01:09:05 PMyour post appears as if you were unable to debate his points

really ? ... please clarify what points were unable to be debated

1 Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture.
2 Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ.
3 Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop (pope)
4 Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience.
5 Show me where it says that none of this has happened before

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 05:08:45 PM
really ? ... please clarify what points were unable to be debated

1 Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture.
2 Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ.
3 Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop (pope)
4 Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience.
5 Show me where it says that none of this has happened before

Went right over your head I see. :rolleyes:
I stated it was your childish post that I took issue with and how you just ended it with total nonsense in a very disrespectful way.
You are not posting to a couple of people, you have an audience in the 10s of thousands, people actually come here to learn, which is what this forum is about, FACTS!
If you disagree with his points, prove him wrong, or simply bow out and tell the individual you agree to disagree.
The Religion forum is held to a higher standard that all other forums on the board, decorum is expected and a manner of respect is first and foremost when discussing the bible.

Now does my response make sense?

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 01:09:05 PM
your post appears as if you were unable to debate his points

like which ones ? ... I'm curious

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
like which ones ? ... I'm curious

This one. Maybe I took it wrong, be it came off as extremely insulting to me, and I'm sure many others.

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 06:19:19 AM
Prove it prove all of it And I don't mean by repeatin tha same thang over n' over again n' again n' again I mean by sound Biblical exegesis if you know what tha frack dat is which I doubt I read it up in tha Greek THE minute is just a minute or a period of time or a time when suttin' is ta happen It can happen any time n' has already happened read yo' Church history ta peep tha persecution of tha Church up in tha 1st century I mean you do at least know dat most of tha Apostlez was martyred dont you This aint ta mention tha Church fathers whoz ass was tortured n' capped fo' they beliefs like Polycarp Nope it aint up in tha Greek itz just a minute do you know what tha frack Rev 4 straight-up is take a wild guess Yo ass be a sick sick sick individual Da whore of Babylon be ancient Pagan Rome tha history speaks fo' itself Muthafrackas like you done been spittin some lyrics ta our asses tha end of tha ghetto is comin fo' tha past 100+ muthafrackn years but I have shizzle fo' you itz goin ta git much much worse n' yo ass is goin ta be surprised when you end up smack dab up in tha tribulation you thought you was goin ta escape n stuff

later "reverend" lol ....
I don't waste time with those of clenched fists and gnashing teeth ...
better things to do .. like read the book of Revelation < it's there for a reason ... pEaCeoUt dUdE :) be blessed

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 01:09:05 PM
LOL! You can't ban my Mods. They, on the other can ban anyone they want to, I give them free call. :wink:

I understand, but debate, don't just write someone off. To those following the thread, your post appears as if you were unable to debate his points and resorted to childish insults .. That's my entire point.

omG !! do I need to draw a picture ??

1 Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture.
2 Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ.
3 Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop (pope)
4 Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience.
5 Show me where it says that none of this has happened before

which points was I unable to debate ?

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
omG !! do I need to draw a picture ??

1 Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture.
2 Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ.
3 Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop (pope)
4 Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience.
5 Show me where it says that none of this has happened before

which points was I unable to debate ?

I believe you are correct, but again, that's not the point.
Go back and reread what I said.

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 11:00:33 AM
Did I leave the debate ?? .. no, I BANNED walkstall ... for being a, well okay I apologize for calling him an idiot, maybe I should have used another term like a water-head or dunder-head oh I know, how bout a pea-brain .. lol ......

No apologize needed.  That one of the nicer thing said about me to day.   :lol:   But then your God will not give you any brownie points for water head, dunderhead or pea brain.   :lol:   

I love it when you call me names, it knock you down a peg or two in God eyes. 

Quote from: dadman on August 18, 2015, 11:30:36 AM
Indeed and I agree ... where was this advice when the "rev" labeled me a "sick, sick, sick individual" / "People like you" ?

Yes, I did, for your insults against the Catholic Church. I have always wondered what kind of "Christian" is so hateful against another just for their denomination. You remind me of Jack Chick, a hateful individual with no Christian virtues, look it up if you want to know who he is. And I am not even Catholic myself. I suggest you read your New Testament before you start blundering around in Revelation. Start with Galatians 5:22.

Quotelol ... you hear that "rev" ?? ... you're not teachable .. lol .. yall killn me

Now only am I teachable, I have been taught, but not by some want-to-be preacher with no name and no face.

Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 08:59:53 AMSomeone calling themselves Reverend on this forum is trying to intimidate the reader.

I call myself Reverend because that's my title, and I am always astonished at the hostility it causes, especially from people who call themselves Christian. Not trying to intimidate, I guess I am just not that imaginative.

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 04:04:38 AM
I call myself Reverend because that's my title, and I am always astonished at the hostility it causes, especially from people who call themselves Christian. Not trying to intimidate, I guess I am just not that imaginative.

Who gave you that title? 

Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 04:25:46 AM
Who gave you that title?

I didn't give it to myself, God called me into this business through His church. Now who wants to know?

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 05:27:09 AM
I didn't give it to myself, God called me into this business through His church. Now who wants to know?

You gave it to yourself when you came to this forum.  You won't find that title in the Bible.

Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 05:30:20 AM
You gave it to yourself when you came to this forum.  You won't find that title in the Bible.

You'll find "presbyter", "elder", or "priest", I am one of those three. "Reverend" is the way polite people address clergy in this century.

Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 05:30:20 AM
You gave it to yourself when you came to this forum.  You won't find that title in the Bible.

sure it's in the bible  ....... Jesus: but they do all their deeds to be noticed by men .. for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments .. they love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues .. and respectful greetings in the market places .. and being called .. Reverend / Rabbi .. by men ...... Matthew 23:5-7 ... hear:the characteristics of false spiritual leaders ... full context[/url]

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 06:25:54 AM
sure it's in the bible  ....... Jesus: but they do all their deeds to be noticed by men .. for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments .. they love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues .. and respectful greetings in the market places .. and being called .. Reverend / Rabbi .. by men ...... Matthew 23:5-7 ... hear: the characteristics of false spiritual leaders  (http://dadmansabode.com/b/01/012301.mp3) ... full context (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=86#p86)

You misquote scripture to bear false witness, too?

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 06:25:04 AM
You'll find "presbyter", "elder", or "priest", I am one of those three. "Reverend" is the way polite people address clergy in this century.

No, it is the way people address someone when they are ignorant of Scripture.

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 03:56:30 AM
Yes, I did, for your insults against the Catholic Church. I have always wondered what kind of "Christian" is so hateful against another just for their denomination. You remind me of Jack Chick, a hateful individual with no Christian virtues, look it up if you want to know who he is. And I am not even Catholic myself. I suggest you read your New Testament before you start blundering around in Revelation. Start with Galatians 5:22

I should have known this guy would be in bed w/ the Catholic church (see Rev 17) sorry "reverend" lol ... but there is now therefore no more sacrifice for sins and the pope is a false prophet leading people to destruction .... sorry

The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/80-264)

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 06:34:06 AM
I should have known this guy would be in bed w/ the Catholic church (see Rev 17) sorry "reverend" lol ... but there is now therefore no more sacrifice for sins and the pope is a false prophet leading people to destruction .... sorry

The Scandal o6f the Catholic Priesthood (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/80-264)

Prostitutes and tax collectors will enter the Kingdom of Heaven before you two do.

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 06:45:33 AM
Prostitutes and tax collectors will enter the Kingdom of Heaven before you two do.

But what I (Paul) am doing I will continue to do .. so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting .. for such men are false apostles  .. deceitful workers .. disguising themselves as apostles of Christ  .. no wonder for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light .. therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness whose end will be according to their deeds ..... 2 Corinthians 11:12-15

The Pope and the Papacy (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-291)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: An Overview (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-314)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 1 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-315)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 2 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-316)

Let this sink in Most Holy Reverend lol

what are we Christians to anticipate as we see the day approaching

Apostate Christianity: .... many shades of the same color fall within the parameter of Biblical Christianity,
however some (and I believe more and more as we approach the final days) call themselves Christianity and are not .... they fall within what the Bible has predicted in Rev 17 ... Mystery Babylon / the mother of Harlots ... this unfaithful adulterous whore/prostitute will call herself the Bride of Christ but she in intoxicated with deception and the blood of the (actual ) witnesses of Jesus .... it will indeed be the Harlot invading (with false doctrine) and contending with the actual Bride of Christ ... the greatest persecutor of true belief is false belief

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 06:55:11 AM
The Idolatry of Mary Worship: An Overview (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-314)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 1 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-315)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 2 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-316)

Let this sink in Most Holy Reverend lol

You sound like a 15 year old when you debate like this.  For me it takes away your credibility. 

Quote Most Holy Reverend lol

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith .. paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons .. by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron .. men who forbid marriage (priests) and advocate abstaining from foods (meat) which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth .... I Timothy 4:1-3

notice ladies and gentleman how unbelievers and apostates circle the wagons together ? ...
indeed Satan knows who his children are

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 07:28:45 AM
notice ladies and gentleman how unbelievers and apostates circle the wagons together ? ...
indeed Satan knows who his children are

You still fail to grasp the concept of this forum. To create harmony amongst Christians, instead you attack another's faith as if somehow their beliefs are invalid and your's superior.
Personally, I do not like Catholicism or it's history, but I do not condone attacking it on this forum either.
If you can't control your scorn, then drop this thread and move on to another subject.

I understand your position, but your approach is not conducive to the ideals of this forum.

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2015, 07:44:02 AM
You still fail to grasp the concept of this forum. To create harmony amongst Christians, instead you attack another's faith as if somehow their beliefs are invalid and your's superior .. Personally, I do not like Catholicism or it's history, but I do not condone attacking it on this forum either .. If you can't control your scorn, then drop this thread and move on to another subject .. I understand your position, but your approach is not conducive to the ideals of this forum

I thought this was a debate form ... is the "rev" going to scripturally back his positions ?? ..
I have already challenged him on his 5 questions ... will there be no response from him on my responses ??

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 07:28:45 AM
notice ladies and gentleman how unbelievers and apostates circle the wagons together ? ...
indeed Satan knows who his children are

As I have said before, you could learn a lot for kroz on how to win friends and influence people. 

If the Final False Prophet spoken of in Revelation 13 is indeed Pope Francis .. then >> I'm expecting << all of the secular humanistic left / atheistic / false-religious-system / anti-christ / homosexual / and all the Biblical Harlot folk spoken about in Revelation 17 to glob-on to / applaud / accept and follow this guy .. He will literally rally them all together >> UNITY << will indeed be the theme ...... My real point of observation will be IF & WHEN Pope Francis gets on the same page with and starts pointing to and singing the praises of a particular (RISING STAR) powerful political figure ........ time will tell (written in 2013)

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 08:13:01 AM
If the Final False Prophet spoken of in Revelation 13 is indeed Pope Francis .. then >> I'm expecting << all of the secular humanistic left / atheistic / false-religious-system / anti-christ / homosexual / and all the Biblical Harlot folk spoken about in Revelation 17 to glob-on to / applaud / accept and follow this guy .. He will literally rally them all together >> UNITY << will indeed be the theme ...... My real point of observation will be IF & WHEN Pope Francis gets on the same page with and starts pointing to and singing the praises of a particular (RISING STAR) powerful political figure ........ time will tell (written in 2013)

Did you write this?  If not, who did?

Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 08:48:44 AM
Did you write this?  If not, who did?

yes I did

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 07:49:43 AM
I thought this was a debate form ... is the "rev" going to scripturally back his positions ?? ..
I have already challenged him on his 5 questions ... will there be no response from him on my responses ??

Let me be blunt! Knock this shit off or take a fuckin hike!

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2015, 09:24:03 AM
Let me be blunt! Knock this shit off or take a fuckin hike!

Well ... We are not children we are adults and can think for ourselves be it right or wrong by your way of thinking .. when I post something you doesn't agree with then post a reply ... lay it out, I can take it or leave it. All this is just my way of thinking ... right ?  

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
Well ... We are not children we are adults and can think for ourselves be it right or wrong by your way of thinking .. when I post something you doesn't agree with then post a reply ... lay it out, I can take it or leave it. All this is just my way of thinking ... right ?

Understand that was NOT Solar that said that, it was I.   Keep this BS up and I will lock the thread and give you a time out!   

Quote from: walkstall on August 19, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Understand that was NOT Solar that said that, it was I.   Keep this BS up and I will lock the thread and give you a time out!   

you could learn a lot for kroz on how to win friends and influence people ? lol

that okay .... I'm timing you out ....... later folks :)

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 10:34:57 AM
you could learn a lot for kroz on how to win friends and influence people ? lol

that okay .... I'm timing you out ....... later folks :)

At not place did I use  :lol: when posting about learning form Kroz.

While your on a self time out, see if you can grow up and be a man of the cloth.

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
Well ... We are not children we are adults and can think for ourselves be it right or wrong by your way of thinking .. when I post something you doesn't agree with then post a reply ... lay it out, I can take it or leave it. All this is just my way of thinking ... right ?

:rolleyes: Let me draw you a picture, and I'll do it very slowly, so you get it this time.
This a Religion forum, primarily Christian, where Christians can discuss religion, learn from one another, but when someone comes in trashing another Christians beliefs, interpretation of said belief, right or wrong, you crossed  the line.

If you want to argue, take it to the Poli forum, but keep it out of the Religion forum.
I think you're a bright guy with a lot of knowledge to offer, just be cordial, that's all that's I ask.

Okay I've lost track ... so at this point what is the religious issue being debated here ? ... or you choose one

what are we Christians to anticipate as we see the day approaching ??

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
Okay I've lost track ... so at this point what is the religious issue being debated here ? ... or you choose one

what are we Christians to anticipate as we see the day approaching ??

The picture that comes to my mind is the poignant ending to "Shindler's List".

Remember how Oskar Shindler broke down and cried because he did not do more to save the Jews?  He was grieved to the core because he spent some of his wealth on opulent pleasures in life.  He wished he had sold his luxury car and bought a few more Jews.  His spirit was crushed when he realized his own selfishness..... even though he had done so much.

Now that I observe the "signs of the times" as related to Scriptural prophecy, I do not want to miss any opportunities to help people find Jesus Christ and embrace Him as their Savior.  Because on that day of Christ's return, nothing else will be of value to me.

We can bicker over the sequence of prophetical events.  But you and I both know that the end seems to be drawing nigh.  We could be wrong, but maybe not.  In the overall scheme of things what difference does it really make?  We get to win a debate?

I have studied the Book of Revelation extensively but this is not the forum in which I believe it is profitable to discuss it in detail.   That is better done in a small group setting where all the participants have "done their homework".  It would do more damage than good on this type of forum.  JMHO

Remember, this is a political forum primarily for the purpose of discussing political issues.  We have a sidebar allocated to things that we find which are more related to religion.  Sometimes these religious threads get very interesting because it can be difficult to separate some of our political problems from our religious roots as a Nation.

I don't believe the Religion sidebar was created for the purpose of soapbox preaching.  But sometimes we can all get a little preachy on it.....because we all have our own opinions.  I hope you spend some time and read through some of these religious threads in the archives.  It may give you a better idea of how to best approach your purpose for being here.

Quote from: dadman on August 19, 2015, 06:55:11 AM
The Idolatry of Mary Worship: An Overview (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-314)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 1 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-315)

The Idolatry of Mary Worship: Part 2 (http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/Sermons/90-316)

Let this sink in Most Holy Reverend lol

What does any of this have to do with your bogus claims about what Revelation says? Nothing. You are just a Catholic hater and you are trying to make the scriptures say that it's okay to hate Catholics, who are also Christians. That's why I got into this conversation - your obvious un-Christ like hated of your fellow Christians.

I'll be on my way now, I am not going to give you any more opportunities to sin.

Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
The picture that comes to my mind is the poignant ending to "Shindler's List" ... Now that I observe the "signs of the times" as related to Scriptural prophecy, I do not want to miss any opportunities to help people find Jesus Christ and embrace Him as their Savior.  Because on that day of Christ's return, nothing else will be of value to me.

I agree .. I believe the approaching day is something that even the unbeliever can see .. he/she may have a totally different philosophy about what it all means .. to me, it's an open door and a hopeful opportunity to advance the truth of the scripture and just maybe win some

QuoteWe can bicker over the sequence of prophetical events.  But you and I both know that the end seems to be drawing nigh.  We could be wrong, but maybe not.  In the overall scheme of things what difference does it really make?  We get to win a debate?

no, not to win a debate about the sequence of events .. but hopefully a recognition that indeed these events will come and they just might not be far away, even in our own lifetime .. and for someone to relinquish them to the past I believe is a terrible Biblical mistake .... sounds to me the inquisition is on the rise again lol

QuoteI have studied the Book of Revelation extensively but this is not the forum in which I believe it is profitable to discuss it in detail.   That is better done in a small group setting where all the participants have "done their homework".  It would do more damage than good on this type of forum.  JMHO

I agree but I would also like to allow for anyone interested to know and understand this book (I believe is God's will) Rev 1:3 < a blessing indeed ... the opportunity to listen to a verse by verse audio series by (I believe) one of the best teachers in our time .... even though we believers in Jesus will not be here during the commencement of these horrific events < my contention

QuoteRemember, this is a political forum primarily for the purpose of discussing political issues.  We have a sidebar allocated to things that we find which are more related to religion.  Sometimes these religious threads get very interesting because it can be difficult to separate some of our political problems from our religious roots as a Nation.

indeed, and I do also have my political views and vote to hopefully see the better candidate win to the em betterment of our Country .... however as I approach my 60s my expectations in man's ability to remedy the problems we are incurring on a daily basis seems to be less and less ..... this is probably why any forum I join, the "religion" section is where I find my default .... hopefully the cards I lay on the table are the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the message of salvation

QuoteI don't believe the Religion sidebar was created for the purpose of soapbox preaching.  But sometimes we can all get a little preachy on it.....because we all have our own opinions.  I hope you spend some time and read through some of these religious threads in the archives.  It may give you a better idea of how to best approach your purpose for being here.

indeed, we all have something to learn > especially me < God is not through with me ... lol :) .... yall have a great evening

Thanks, dadman.

I really like your new approach and believe you have much of value to share with this forum.  Hang in there!!   :wink:

Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:24:27 AM
Thanks, dadman.

I really like your new approach

lol ... thank you kroz .. of course this doesn't mean I'm planning to let the reverned off the hook :)

Quote from: Reverend on August 19, 2015, 05:06:35 PM

What does any of this have to do with your bogus claims about what Revelation says? Nothing

Well no it really kinda does ... Revelation 17 describes a massive religious system that describes the character and doctrines of the RCC to a tee ... not only that, the audio files I've posted reveal the un-Biblical doctrine and practices of the RCC described in the titles ... and AGAIN I would challenge you Reverend to Biblically and Scriptually display the legitimacy of these RCC doctrines I have described that you are indeed defending ... you know it was you Reverend who brought up this issue of the Pope and the RCC and that any deviation from the RCC is "dividing" the Body of christ

QuoteYou are just a Catholic hater and you are trying to make the scriptures say that it's okay to hate Catholics, who are also Christians

Well no, not really .... no. 1 - I hate no one (Judge not that you be not judged) .... this really sounds to me to be the boo-hoo-hollar of the (soon to emerge) One World Religion (what I'm expecting from the RCC) ... My Sister is staunch Catholic: "I believe in ALL Religions") ... you see, I was born and raised in the Catholic church ... and just because someone adherers to the RCC does not make them a Christian .. especially when the RCC teaches non-Biblical doctrine and proclaims a salvation to be attained by a system of works

Quoteyou are trying to make the scriptures say that it's okay to hate Catholics

??? ... Seriously ?? < show me where I state or display this ... I don't try to "make" the scriptures hate anyone .. Sheeesh !! why would I do that ?? ... the Scriptures are to lead a man to > salvation in Jesus < thank you very much

QuoteThat's why I got into this conversation - your obvious un-Christ like hated of your fellow Christians

well here is just an example of what some Catholics believe (http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showpost.php?p=20597043&postcount=5)  ... homosexuality no longer a sin ?? ... I do think the Apostle Paul has some words from God toward this matter .. Romans 1 ..... should I hate Mormons ? / JWs or Muslims ? .. not at all .... did Jesus promote and embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees and just go along to "get along" ?? .. God forbid .. no, he set them straight and lifted the Law back to where God intended it to be and then expounded and displayed the Spirit of the Law and then proceeded to the cross to die for the sins of man ... because man has no ability to "keep the Law" and indeed needs a Savior ... did Jesus "hate" the Pharisees and Sadducees ?? .. not at all .. but boy they sure hated him now didn't they

QuoteI'll be on my way now, I am not going to give you any more opportunities to sin

okay well that is fine ... maybe you should give yourself some opportunities to Biblically and Scripturally refute my refutations of you ..... that IS what a Religion Debate Forum is all about ... right ?? looking forward to your cordial response < do have a blessed day

I too believe that there is much error taught in the RCC, but at the same time I do know of some in that church that do have a personal relationship with Christ.

Truth be known, there is likely a bit or error taught in most churches today. ...... not that I am the judge of it.  I am capable of error in my own theology.  I know that because my own personal theology has changed over time and spiritual growth and study.  All through my spiritual journey I have been the same Christian walking with Christ.

As a matter of fact, my most recent thinking is that I may have been wrong about the false religion of Revelation.  I look at various passages of prophecy.... especially in Daniel and Revelation and am seeing that the false religion could be Islam.

There is an amazing young man of God who has studied the Scripture a lot and written a new book about it.  I have listened to many of his audio tapes and have been impressed.  I have not yet read the book.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Islamic-Antichrist-Joel-Richardson/dp/1935071556

This may not be right, but it certainly seems to line up with many of the things happening in the world today.

Joel has many of his talks on youtube.  Google for more info.

Quote from: dadman on August 20, 2015, 10:44:51 AM
Well no it really kinda does ... Revelation 17 describes a massive religious system that describes the character and doctrines of the RCC to a tee ... not only that, the audio files I've posted reveal the un-Biblical doctrine and practices of the RCC described in the titles ... and AGAIN I would challenge you Reverend to Biblically and Scriptually display the legitimacy of these RCC doctrines I have described that you are indeed defending ... you know it was you Reverend who brought up this issue of the Pope and the RCC and that any deviation from the RCC is "dividing" the Body of christ

Well no, not really .... no. 1 - I hate no one (Judge not that you be not judged) .... this really sounds to me to be the boo-hoo-hollar of the (soon to emerge) One World Religion (what I'm expecting from the RCC) ... My Sister is staunch Catholic: "I believe in ALL Religions") ... you see, I was born and raised in the Catholic church ... and just because someone adherers to the RCC does not make them a Christian .. especially when the RCC teaches non-Biblical doctrine and proclaims a salvation to be attained by a system of works


??? ... Seriously ?? < show me where I state or display this ... I don't try to "make" the scriptures hate anyone .. Sheeesh !! why would I do that ?? ... the Scriptures are to lead a man to > salvation in Jesus < thank you very much

well here is just an example of what some Catholics believe (http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showpost.php?p=20597043&postcount=5)  ... homosexuality no longer a sin ?? ... I do think the Apostle Paul has some words from God toward this matter .. Romans 1 (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2214#p2214) ..... should I hate Mormons ? / JWs or Muslims ? .. not at all .... did Jesus promote and embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees and just go along to "get along" ?? .. God forbid .. no, he set them straight and lifted the Law back to where God intended it to be and then expounded and displayed the Spirit of the Law and then proceeded to the cross to die for the sins of man ... because man has no ability to "keep the Law" and indeed needs a Savior ... did Jesus "hate" the Pharisees and Sadducees ?? .. not at all .. but boy they sure hated him now didn't they

okay well that is fine ... maybe you should give yourself some opportunities to Biblically and Scripturally refute my refutations of you ..... that IS what a Religion Debate Forum is all about ... right ?? looking forward to your cordial response < do have a blessed day

I am always reluctant to get involved with religious threads as they are so emotional. However, in reading your posts it is clear you have a true bias against the RCC. I am not a Catholic as one thing I cannot accept is an elected human being, the Pope, is elevated to holy status. That being said, I have known many Catholics and they are wonderful Christian people.

This is one of your statements from your post;

"some Catholics believe ... homosexuality no longer a sin ??"

Are you indicating no protestants have this view? In fact some protestant denominations have accepted this as a church.

It strikes me that your view of the RCC shows a lack of tolerance that a true Christian should exhibit.

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 20, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
I am always reluctant to get involved with religious threads as they are so emotional. However, in reading your posts it is clear you have a true bias against the RCC. I am not a Catholic as one thing I cannot accept is an elected human being, the Pope, is elevated to holy status. That being said, I have known many Catholics and they are wonderful Christian people.

This is one of your statements from your post; "some Catholics believe ... homosexuality no longer a sin ??" Are you indicating no protestants have this view? In fact some protestant denominations have accepted this as a church ... It strikes me that your view of the RCC shows a lack of tolerance that a true Christian should exhibit.

Oh don't get me wrong ... apostasy spans ALL branches and denominations ... as far as apostasy is concerned I do not single our the RCC ... I'm just relaying some of my own close experience as a way to dispell this blanket statement that "Catholics are Christians" ... but my main point in all this is to point to the 2nd Beast Rev 13 the False Prophet and to point attention to this soon to emerge One World Religion (Rev 17) ... no, Rev 17 is not in the past but in the future

QuoteI have known many Catholics and they are wonderful Christian people

Oh I agree ... I have been involve in pro-life for many years and know many wonderful Catholics, most of my family is Catholic ... My contentions are toward the system and doctrine of this mega complex of a "Mother" Church .... time will tell whether I am right or wrong ... but make no mistake ... this tyrannical / Global / inquisitional type Babylon / Harlot of a > False Bride < will emerge ... absorbing all false belief and pagan ideology known to man ...... thank you for your post .... please engage this conversation

Quote from: dadman on August 20, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
Oh don't get me wrong ... apostasy (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1512#p1512) spans ALL branches and denominations ... as far as apostasy is concerned I do not single our the RCC ... I'm just relaying some of my own close experience as a way to dispell this blanket statement that "Catholics are Christians" ... but my main point in all this is to point to the 2nd Beast (Rev 13) the False Prophet and to point attention to this soon to emerge One World Religion (Rev 17) ... no, Rev 17 is not in the past but in the future

Oh I agree ... I have been involve in pro-life for many years and know many wonderful Catholics, most of my family is Catholic ... My contentions are toward the system and doctrine of this mega complex of a "Mother" Church .... time will tell whether I am right or wrong ... but make no mistake ... this tyrannical / Global / inquisitional type Babylon / Harlot of a > False Bride < will emerge ... absorbing all false belief and pegan ideology known to man ...... thank you for your post .... please engage this conversation

So, am I correct in summarizing your statement as acknowledging Christianity exists in most mainstream denominations and the RCC........ and we are waiting to see if the RCC fulfills the Rev 17 prophecy?

If that is true, you get no objection from me on those points.  We don't know and cannot know for sure but must rely on the signs of the times as they unfold. 

Having said those things I will add that Pope Francis is a distinctly new type of Pope... unlike others.  He embraces communist marxism and is offended by capitalism.  That is new to the RCC.

And Pope Francis' sincere love of the poor, and shake up within the RCC hierarchy has endeared him to many!

Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 02:23:53 PM
So, am I correct in summarizing your statement as acknowledging Christianity exists in most mainstream denominations and the RCC........ and we are waiting to see if the RCC fulfills the Rev 17 prophecy?

I think that an actual real Christian in the RCC (hopefully) would realize that as far as salvation is concerned they have absolutely no "need" for the RCC ... no "church" has the power to save you ... being added to the church does not add you to the Lord .... being added to the Lord is what adds you to the Church .... the RCC claims that THEY are necessary for salvation ... < and this is not correct .... I need no "man" to forgive my sins ... my sins were forgiven by God at the cross of Jesus .. past / present and future ... i t - i s  - f i n i s h e d  .... Jesus' sacrifice was a ONE TIME event - NEVER to be repeated again .... I don't need to live a life asking God to forgive my sins ... I live a life THANKING God FOR forgiving my sins

QuoteIf that is true, you get no objection from me on those points.  We don't know and cannot know for sure but must rely on the signs of the times as they unfold.

amen and agreed

QuoteHaving said those things I will add that Pope Francis is a distinctly new type of Pope... unlike others.  He embraces communist marxism and is offended by capitalism.  That is new to the RCC .... And Pope Francis' sincere love of the poor, and shake up within the RCC hierarchy has endeared him to many!

and I really wonder about this .... has any money been transferred from the $$$ Vatican $$$ ... to the homeless and the poor ?? .... I remember a big media event where the pope snuck out of the Vatican to wonder alone down to the back alley poor and homeless ... question: if this was supposed to be some secret deal then WHY do we even know about it ? ... where are those homeless today ? ... are they in homes ? ... why do we never hear about the conclusion to these stories ? .... or are they just big propaganda media driven events ..... if the pope is prostrate flat in prayer on the floor ... why are there photos of this ? .... I think I remember Jesus' words ... when you pray, get in your closet, and not to be seen in public for the praise of men ... you would indeed have your reward .... I'm sure there many who could enlighten me on this ..... have a great evening

Quoteand AGAIN I would challenge you Reverend to Biblically and Scriptually display the legitimacy of these RCC doctrines I have described that you are indeed defending

I am not "defending" anything, I am challenging YOU to Biblically and scripturally display the legitimacy of your own statements here, which you have yet to do. When challenged on your own superstition, all you have done is change the subject to "Mary worship" (a false claim in and of itself). This is something you do constantly (change the subject, that is) when you are asked to prove your claims.

You claim Rev 17 is about the RCC, prove your case.

(From Wikipedia): in apocryphal writings, "Babylon" is a cryptic name for Rome. Reinhard Feldmeier speculates that "Babylon" is used to refer to Rome in 1 Peter 5:13. In Revelation 17:9 it is said that she sits on "seven mountains", typically understood as the seven hills of Rome. A Roman coin minted under the Emperor Vespasian (ca. 70 AD) depicts Rome as a woman sitting on seven hills.

I can also recommend a couple of books for you on the subject, if you can read.

Your claims are cultic superstition, the stuff that Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons preach, which is funny considering that both of those cults are heretical themselves.

QuoteWell no, not really .... no. 1 - I hate no one (Judge not that you be not judged) ....

This after you have called an entire assembly of Christians "the whore of Babylon"????? And you don't want to be judged????

Quoteyou know it was you Reverend who brought up this issue of the Pope and the RCC and that any deviation from the RCC is "dividing" the Body of christ

Judging by your posts here it is plain to me that you don't even know that Catholics believe, like this:

Quotewell here is just an example of what some Catholics believe  ... homosexuality no longer a sin ?

Really? That's news to me, since the RCC is one of the last holdouts, refusing to recognize so-called "gay marriage". I would suggest that you confine yourself to facts and not wild claims.

Quote... you see, I was born and raised in the Catholic church ...

I don't believe you, nobody could be born and raised in the Catholic church and be as ignorant about what they believe as you are. Like this:

Quoteespecially when the RCC teaches non-Biblical doctrine and proclaims a salvation to be attained by a system of works

Really? Feel free to expound on this "system of works" as you understand it.

Quote.... did Jesus promote and embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees and just go along to "get along" ?? .. God forbid .. no, he set them straight and lifted the Law back to where God intended it to be and then expounded and displayed the Spirit of the Law and then proceeded to the cross to die for the sins of man ... because man has no ability to "keep the Law" and indeed needs a Savior ... did Jesus "hate" the Pharisees and Sadducees ?? .. not at all .. but boy they sure hated him now didn't they

Jesus was a Jew, he wasn't a white Protestant. He told his followers "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat,  so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice." That's in Matt. 23, since you probably don't know. Jesus didn't try to undermine the Pharisees's authority, although he did criticize their personal conduct.

Jesus knew the Pharisees knew what they were talking about when it came to the Law because he was a teacher himself. Uneducated men like yourself use the Pharisees and Sadducees as an excuse to ridicule clergy just for being clergy.

Quoteokay well that is fine ... maybe you should give yourself some opportunities to Biblically and Scripturally refute my refutations of you ..... that IS what a Religion Debate Forum is all about ... right ??

When you can engage in some actual debate then I am willing to try it. So far you have committed at least three logical fallacies (you can look that up) in addition to some actual falsehoods. That is not debate, that is ranting. The hardest part with you is deciding where to start because your posts are so error filled.

One more thing:

QuoteWell no it really kinda does ... Revelation 17 describes a massive religious system that describes the character and doctrines of the RCC to a tee ... not only that, the audio files I've posted reveal the un-Biblical doctrine and practices of the RCC described in the titles ...

I was somewhat dismayed to see that John MacArthur is a party to the kind of superstition you post here. Tell me, have you  listened to Jimmy Aiken, a Catholic apologist, to hear his side of the story? That's what educated people do, they gather all the facts and THEN decide for themselves.

I have my share of problems with the RCC, NONE of which have anything to do with the slander you post. There are enough real issues with the RCC to deal with without resorting to lies.

Quote from: dadman on August 20, 2015, 08:06:16 PM
I think that an actual real Christian in the RCC (hopefully) would realize that as far as salvation is concerned they have absolutely no "need" for the RCC ... no "church" has the power to save you ... being added to the church does not add you to the Lord .... being added to the Lord is what adds you to the Church .... the RCC claims that THEY are necessary for salvation ... < and this is not correct .... I need no "man" to forgive my sins ... my sins were forgiven by God at the cross of Jesus .. past / present and future ... i t - i s  - f i n i s h e d  .... Jesus' sacrifice was a ONE TIME event - NEVER to be repeated again .... I don't need to live a life asking God to forgive my sins ... I live a life THANKING God FOR forgiving my sins

amen and agreed

and I really wonder about this .... has any money been transferred from the $$$ Vatican $$$ ... to the homeless and the poor ?? .... I remember a big media event where the pope snuck out of the Vatican to wonder alone down to the back alley poor and homeless ... question: if this was supposed to be some secret deal then WHY do we even know about it ? ... where are those homeless today ? ... are they in homes ? ... why do we never hear about the conclusion to these stories ? .... or are they just big propaganda media driven events ..... if the pope is prostrate flat in prayer on the floor ... why are there photos of this ? .... I think I remember Jesus' words ... when you pray, get in your closet, and not to be seen in public for the praise of men ... you would indeed have your reward .... I'm sure there many who could enlighten me on this ..... have a great evening (http://saleminteractivemedia.com/ListenLive/Player/tcmir)

I don't disagree with you on anything.

However this is not a journey I really want to take.  I will leave this to you and the Rev.

Amen Kroz

QuoteI am not "defending" anything, I am challenging YOU to Biblically and scripturally display the legitimacy of your own statements here, which you have yet to do. When challenged on your own superstition, all you have done is change the subject to "Mary worship" (a false claim in and of itself)

So tell me what the RCC claims about Mary / Co-Meditrix (http://www.religioustolerance.org/mary_cor.htm) (Mary plays a part in salvation)  how do you biblically defend this ? .... was Mary born sinless ? / did she remain a virgin throughout life ? Mt 1:25 UNTIL[/url]) ... and why does the RCC call her "Queen of Heaven" ?

QuoteYou claim Rev 17 is about the RCC, prove your case

no, I said Rev 17 > Describes < the Roman catholic Church .... drunk w/ the blood of the saints ? Q 4 the Reverend = how many were murdered as a result of the Spanish Inquision (actual Christians were murdered) .. give me an approx number .... are you dogmatic that the RCC cannot evolve into this > United Europe / Revived Roman Empire < ??

Quote(From Wikipedia): in apocryphal writings, "Babylon" is a cryptic name for Rome. Reinhard Feldmeier speculates that "Babylon" is used to refer to Rome in 1 Peter 5:13. In Revelation 17:9 it is said that she sits on "seven mountains", typically understood as the seven hills of Rome. A Roman coin minted under the Emperor Vespasian (ca. 70 AD) depicts Rome as a woman sitting on seven hills

yes indeed Reverend ... you have just displayed a very good description of this new Revived Roman Catholic Empire in Rev 17 < you really should go hear some Biblical teaching audios on this

QuoteI can also recommend a couple of books for you on the subject, if you can read

really? have you listened to any of the audios I've posted ? .. all I really need is the Word of God ... and yes I can read mr. derogatory

QuoteYour claims are cultic superstition, the stuff that Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons preach, which is funny considering that both of those cults are heretical themselves

Careful now there Reverend .... you don't want to be guilty of what you accuse others of ... calling an entire assembly of Christians "cults that are heretical" ....... REMEMBER: This a Religion forum, primarily Christian, where Christians can discuss religion, learn from one another, but when someone comes in trashing another Christians beliefs (JWs / Mormons), interpretation of said belief, right or wrong, you Reverend have crossed the line ..... lol

Quote"you know it was you Reverend who brought up this issue of the Pope and the RCC and that any deviation from the RCC is "dividing" the Body of christ" .... Judging by your posts here it is plain to me that you don't even know that Catholics believe, like this ....
"well here is just an example of what some Catholics believe  ... homosexuality no longer a sin ?" ... Really? That's news to me, since the RCC is one of the last holdouts, refusing to recognize so-called "gay marriage". I would suggest that you confine yourself to facts and not wild claims

Catholics Support Gay Marriage as Much as General Population and Believe Pope Francis Has Backed It, PRRI Study Finds ..... A study by the Public Religion Research Institute released in August on the beliefs of American Catholics has found that despite the Church's teachings, they support same-sex marriage and abortion just as much as the general population. What is more, a large percentage of Catholic respondents mistakenly believed Pope Francis has backed gay marriage ....  continue  (http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholics-support-gay-marriage-as-much-as-general-population-and-believe-pope-francis-has-backed-it-prri-study-finds-143871/) ... your pope better have a frank discussion w/ his RCC followers on this matter

or hey how bout this one ... when the priest consecrates the host, you would immediately see Jesus Christ ... however God over rules this miracle by a greater miracle keeping the appearances of bread and wine inorder that you might eat the flesh of Jesus christ without difficulty ...... and you find this where in the bible ?? < or is this just the result of another false religion failing to close the canon and "adding to" the Word of God > ONCE < delivered to the saints as the RCC has

Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children's books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday ... As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response ... lol wink wink (https://in.news.yahoo.com/italian-lesbian-author-gets-papal-135816996.html)

Quoteyou see, I was born and raised in the Catholic church ... I don't believe you [ well tough sht - I can display my 8th grd report card from Sister Andelores ]..  nobody could be born and raised in the Catholic church and be as ignorant about what they believe as you are. Like this: ... "especially when the RCC teaches non-Biblical doctrine and proclaims a salvation to be attained by a system of works" .... Really? Feel free to expound on this "system of works" as you understand it.

the sacrements are a works system

Quotedid Jesus promote and embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees and just go along to "get along" ?? .. God forbid .. no, he set them straight and lifted the Law back to where God intended it to be and then expounded and displayed the Spirit of the Law and then proceeded to the cross to die for the sins of man ... because man has no ability to "keep the Law" and indeed needs a Savior ... did Jesus "hate" the Pharisees and Sadducees ?? .. not at all .. but boy they sure hated him now didn't they" ......
Jesus was a Jew, he wasn't a white Protestant. He told his followers "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat,  so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice." That's in Matt. 23, since you probably don't know. Jesus didn't try to undermine the Pharisees's authority, although he did criticize their personal conduct ..... Jesus knew the Pharisees knew what they were talking about when it came to the Law because he was a teacher himself. Uneducated men like yourself use the Pharisees and Sadducees as an excuse to ridicule clergy just for being clergy

no, I ridicule your RCC clergy for failing to close the canon / preaching false doctrine as in mixing law and grace (dragging the OT into the NT) and .. there is no such thing as a Biblical Pope .. the office of the earthly priest is over < Jesus Christ is the head of the Church and now our great high priest < see: Hebrews

Quote"okay well that is fine ... maybe you should give yourself some opportunities to Biblically and Scripturally refute my refutations of you ..... that IS what a Religion Debate Forum is all about ... right ??"  .... When you can engage in some actual debate then I am willing to try it. So far you have committed at least three logical fallacies (you can look that up) in addition to some actual falsehoods. That is not debate, that is ranting. The hardest part with you is deciding where to start because your posts are so error filled

Oh please spare me ..... catch ya later :)

Quotehe sacrements are a works system

Do you know what the word "sacrament" means? No, you don't. "Raised in the Catholic Church" my foot. You can't even spell "sacrament".

Quotebut when someone comes in trashing another Christians beliefs (JWs / Mormons), interpretation of said belief, right or wrong, you Reverend have crossed the line ..... lol

So you think Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian now, but Catholics are not?

QuoteCatholics Support Gay Marriage as Much as General Population and Believe Pope Francis Has Backed It, PRRI Study Finds ..... A study by the Public Religion Research Institute released in August on the beliefs of American Catholics has found that despite the Church's teachings, they support same-sex marriage and abortion just as much as the general population. What is more, a large percentage of Catholic respondents mistakenly believed Pope Francis has backed gay marriage .... continue ... your pope better have a frank discussion w/ his RCC followers on this matter

or hey how bout this one ... when the priest consecrates the host, you would immediately see Jesus Christ ... however God over rules this miracle by a greater miracle keeping the appearances of bread and wine inorder that you might eat the flesh of Jesus christ without difficulty ...... and you find this where in the bible ?? < or is this just the result of another false religion failing to close the canon and "adding to" the Word of God > ONCE < delivered to the saints as the RCC has

Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children's books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday ... As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response ... lol wink wink

Do you know what? I don't believe you were ever a part of the RCC, I don't think you are any kind of a theologian, I think you are one of those Biblically illiterate types who hates Catlicks, Jews, blacks, and homos, and tries to use the Bible to justify it because that's what you sound like. 

Quote from: Reverend on August 28, 2015, 01:29:27 PM
Do you know what the word "sacrament" means? No, you don't. "Raised in the Catholic Church" my foot. You can't even spell "sacrament".

So you think Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian now, but Catholics are not?

Do you know what? I don't believe you were ever a part of the RCC, I don't think you are any kind of a theologian, I think you are one of those Biblically illiterate types who hates Catlicks, Jews, blacks, and homos, and tries to use the Bible to justify it because that's what you sound like.

Who were you responding?
This may help.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/help-7/how-to-segment-quotes/msg259938/

I have a question you may be able to answer, or anyone else is welcome to take a shot.
Can you tell me what my home town of Sacramento means?
I know what Sacrament means, but does anyone know why the damned "O" is added to the end? :biggrin:

Was it an exciting Sacrament, and everyone went O...my. OK, I jest, but it's a stupid question I've had since I was a little kid.

What I'm waiting for, is the idiot libs to start demanding all these cities in Ca, like Los Angles, Sacramento and many others with Christian roots, to be changed.
Boy will that raise a stink.

Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2015, 02:57:20 PM
Who were you responding?
This may help.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/help-7/how-to-segment-quotes/msg259938/

I have a question you may be able to answer, or anyone else is welcome to take a shot.
Can you tell me what my home town of Sacramento means?
I know what Sacrament means, but does anyone know why the damned "O" is added to the end? :biggrin:

Was it an exciting Sacrament, and everyone went O...my. OK, I jest, but it's a stupid question I've had since I was a little kid.

What I'm waiting for, is the idiot libs to start demanding all these cities in Ca, like Los Angles, Sacramento and many others with Christian roots, to be changed.
Boy will that raise a stink.

That was Dadgum I was speaking to.

According to Wikipedia, Sacramento is named after the Sacramento river. Evidently "sacramento" is a Spanish word for sacrament.

Los Angeles, Sacramento, Corpus Christi - San Francisco means "St. Francis", and everybody should know who he was, but they will be the first to cave in and change the name of the city to "there is no God" in some language...

Quote from: Reverend on August 29, 2015, 06:03:59 AM
That was Dadgum I was speaking to.

According to Wikipedia, Sacramento is named after the Sacramento river. Evidently "sacramento" is a Spanish word for sacrament.

Thanks, I knew all that, just wondered why the added O at the end of Sacrament, if it had any biblical meaning.

QuoteLos Angeles, Sacramento, Corpus Christi - San Francisco means "St. Francis", and everybody should know who he was, but they will be the first to cave in and change the name of the city to "there is no God" in some language...
http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/03/09/12-reasons-why-conservatives-should-reject-scott-walker

Well, the Bay Area does sit in the shadow of Mt Diablo (Devil mountain). How appropriate is that? :biggrin:

The Big List Of 33 Things That Are Going To Happen In September 2015
By Michael Snyder, on August 19th, 2015

Is September 2015 going to be a month that changes history? For months, there has been an unprecedented amount of buzz all over the Internet about what is going to happen in September. And without a doubt, we are going to witness a convergence of events during that month that is quite remarkable. What I have attempted to do in this article is to put together a list of things that we know will happen next month. Some of the lists that I have seen contain things that cannot be proven or that are simply inaccurate. And of course it is very likely that some things will happen in September that we cannot anticipate right now. I am just providing the information that I have at this time, and it is up to you and your family to prepare for what you believe will happen. The following is my big list of 33 things that are going to happen in September 2015...




Do not post entire articles, it's a copyright violation.  Generally, four paragraphs or text not exceeding 200 words is considered fair usage, it is always best to credit the original source.

I see you did credit the original source. 

As a Christians you keep pressing your luck dadman .

I would have liked to have seen your list, dadman.

Can you condense it into your own words?

This particular Rosh Hashanah is of interest to me because it comes in connection with the blood moon.  That could have significance.

Quote from: dadman on August 30, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
The Big List Of 33 Things That Are Going To Happen In September 2015
By Michael Snyder, on August 19th, 2015

Is September 2015 going to be a month that changes history? For months, there has been an unprecedented amount of buzz all over the Internet about what is going to happen in September. And without a doubt, we are going to witness a convergence of events during that month that is quite remarkable. What I have attempted to do in this article is to put together a list of things that we know will happen next month. Some of the lists that I have seen contain things that cannot be proven or that are simply inaccurate. And of course it is very likely that some things will happen in September that we cannot anticipate right now. I am just providing the information that I have at this time, and it is up to you and your family to prepare for what you believe will happen. The following is my big list of 33 things that are going to happen in September 2015...




Do not post entire articles, it's a copyright violation.  Generally, four paragraphs or text not exceeding 200 words is considered fair usage, it is always best to credit the original source.

I see you did credit the original source. 

As a Christians you keep pressing your luck dadman .

Can you link to it?

Quote from: Solar on August 31, 2015, 05:40:27 AM
Can you link to it?

Was not that hard to find on the net.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-list-of-33-things-that-are-going-to-happen-in-september-2015

Quote from: walkstall on August 31, 2015, 06:52:06 AM
Was not that hard to find on the net.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-list-of-33-things-that-are-going-to-happen-in-september-2015

Can't say that I was impressed.   :confused:

Only a few of those things have merit in my book.  Overstating the case causes it to lose credibility. 

I do believe we are on the precipice of significant changes in this Country and around the world, but this list does not change anything.

I do believe that the "signs" in the sky (blood moon) in connection with Rosh Hashanah is worthy to note.  But I am not sure what conclusion we should draw.  We will obviously know more after it occurs.  The Bible says that God has given us the heavenly bodies as a "sign".  There are times that He has communicated to men through these heavenly bodies.  We all know he used a star to guide the wise men to the Nativity.  We also know that He caused the sun to stand still for an entire day (Joshua 10:13).  There are other instances mentioned in the Bible in which God used these bodies as signs.  So, I try to take note of unusual phenomenon in the sky.

Beyond that, it is conjecture.

There is one point I definitely agree with.

"As a result, Americans may be forced to rely on themselves for protection, meaning Christians have to begin planning now."

My paticular interest will be watching the pope and obama on the 23rd to the 27th ...
we know they have shared goals but how much will they display (combining power and influence)
concerning a One World Religion and a One World Government .... and the message will be peace peace peace ... world peace / unity / tolerance ...
what I have my ear to the ground for is the beginning of the Tribulation period (if the rapture happens nevermind) ... the rider of the White Horse kicking this thing off ...
how much of this will be that the Jews have no right to the Land of israel and we'll start with making Jerusalem an "international" city ...
or even a "peace treaty" with Israel "protecting" them for a period of 7 years ........ yes I will be watching closely

Quote from: dadman on August 31, 2015, 12:29:33 PM
My paticular interest will be watching the pope and obama on the 23rd to the 27th ...
we know they have shared goals but how much will they display (combining power and influence)
concerning a One World Religion and a One World Government .... and the message will be peace peace peace ... world peace / unity / tolerance ...
what I have my ear to the ground for is the beginning of the Tribulation period (if the rapture happens nevermind) ... the rider of the White Horse (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=726#p726) kicking this thing off ...
how much of this will be that the Jews have no right to the Land of israel and we'll start with making Jerusalem an "international" city ...
or even a "peace treaty" with Israel "protecting" them for a period of 7 years ........ yes I will be watching closely

Yes, that would be interesting indeed, dadman!!!   :biggrin:

If that happens, all Christians with knowledge of the Scripture will mark their calendars!!!  :ohmy:

Being a Pre-Trib believer I'm not planning on being here to watch it all unfold.  :lol:

Quote from: daidalos on August 31, 2015, 06:09:35 PM
Being a Pre-Trib believer I'm not planning on being here to watch it all unfold.  :lol:

I was a Pre-Triber for many years.  However, I have come to believe that mid-trib is a real possibility!

:biggrin:

I've said for a long time .... whether one believes in pre / mid or post Rapture .... there is no way to be totally dogmatic .. we're speaking of future events ... so long as we know to whom we belong .. Satanic forces may take our lives, but they can never rob us of our faith in Jesus Christ (saving faith that God gives endures even to the end) .... we can discuss and debate when the Rapture might happen ... however the Biblical fallacy would be to deny the event all together as reverend does (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/farewell-to-the-rapture/) .... but that's what I would expect from a Preterist in sheep's clothing: the growing plague of end times deception (http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sharris/150820) ..... Reverend should display where and when "we who were alive and remain were caught up together with them in the clouds and met (past tense) the Lord in the air"

Quote from: dadman on August 31, 2015, 08:29:02 PM
.... we can discuss and debate when the Rapture might happen ... however the Biblical fallacy would be to deny the event all together as reverend does (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/farewell-to-the-rapture/) .... but that's what I would expect from a Preterist in sheep's clothing: the growing plague of end times deception (http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sharris/150820) ..... Reverend should display where and when "we who were alive and remain were caught up together with them in the clouds and met (past tense) the Lord in the air"[/i]

I wouldn't be looking forward to the last days if I were you.

Quote from: Reverend on September 01, 2015, 03:16:22 AMI wouldn't be looking forward to the last days if I were you

Oh I'm not (even though we see the day approaching) ... I'm looking forward to the great and glorious appearing of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to gather his children .... whether it be before (my persuasion see: Rev 3:10 or after tribulation

btw: looking forward or not looking forward .... the last days will indeed come

Quote from: dadman on September 01, 2015, 06:47:54 AM
Oh I'm not (even though we see the day approaching) ... I'm looking forward to the great and glorious appearing of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to gather his children .... whether it be before (my persuasion see: Rev 3:10 (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=723#p723)) or after tribulation

btw: looking forward or not looking forward .... the last days will indeed come

Just a different perspective.

We are living in the end days, Christ has taken those he wants, leaving the rest of us to suffer with the likes of a Kermit Gosnell types, mass murderers, frauds and blasphemers.
Look around, the world is a cesspool choking on itself.

Maybe we're not as reverent as we thought we were. :wink:

Quote from: dadman on September 01, 2015, 06:47:54 AM
Oh I'm not (even though we see the day approaching) ... I'm looking forward to the great and glorious appearing of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to gather his children .... whether it be before (my persuasion see: Rev 3:10 (http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=723#p723)) or after tribulation

btw: looking forward or not looking forward .... the last days will indeed come

I'm for anything that hastens the return of our Lord.

Quote from: kroz on September 01, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
I'm for anything that hastens the return of our Lord.

Vote Democrat. :lol:

Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 07:03:01 AMWe are living in the end days, Christ has taken those he wants, leaving the rest of us to suffer with the likes of a Kermit Gosnell types, mass murderers, frauds and blasphemers ... Look around, the world is a cesspool choking on itself

Thousands Gather at South Carolina State House to 'Stand with God' Against Sin (http://christiannews.net/2015/08/30/thousands-gather-at-south-carolina-statehouse-to-stand-with-god-against-sin/)
"The purpose of 'We Stand With God' is to encourage and empower God-fearing citizens to stand in this evil day. Timing is critical," the event website reads. "The landscape of this great republic is eroding daily and the floods of change are seeking to assassinate the moral fiber of the land we love. Crime rates are rising, civil unrest is abounding and perversion is growing exponentially."

time to Solar

Quote from: dadman on September 01, 2015, 07:35:09 AM

Thousands Gather at South Carolina State House to 'Stand with God' Against Sin (http://christiannews.net/2015/08/30/thousands-gather-at-south-carolina-statehouse-to-stand-with-god-against-sin/)
"The purpose of 'We Stand With God' is to encourage and empower God-fearing citizens to stand in this evil day. Timing is critical," the event website reads. "The landscape of this great republic is eroding daily and the floods of change are seeking to assassinate the moral fiber of the land we love. Crime rates are rising, civil unrest is abounding and perversion is growing exponentially."

time to Solar

Two things. One is your perspective is your own, and no more correct than mine.
I say this because I talk directly to God daily, not through a mediary.
I asked God to allow me to live through in the final days, and he not only granted my request, he gave me a safe vantage point from which to observe, and the means to survive the tribulations.

Second, I do not appreciate you disguising a download to my computer as a link to information.
Therefore I am relinquishing your privilege to post links to your site.
You may post links to other sites, but they in no way can be hidden as you did in this post.

Walks will be monitoring your posts.

Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 08:00:16 AMI talk directly to God daily, not through a mediary

1 Timothy 2:5 .. for there is one God .. and one mediator also between God and men . . . the man Christ Jesus

http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/sermons/54-13

Quote from: dadman on September 01, 2015, 08:28:20 AM
1 Timothy 2:5 .. for there is one God .. and one mediator also between God and men . . . the man Christ Jesus

http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/sermons/54-13

Wrong!!!!
Are you saying God erred? "For thou shalt worship no other god". One can deduce from Gods own words, that included intermediaries.
Religion is funny that way, which is why I am not a Religious man, rather a man that needs no intermediaries, as you so clearly chastised the Catholics for the Pope.

Solar = "two thangs one is yo' perspectizzle is yo' own n' no mo' erect than mine I say dis cuz I rap directly ta Dogg everyday not all up in a mediary I axed Dogg ta allow me ta live all up in in tha final minutes n' he not only granted mah request he gave me a safe vantage point from which ta observe, n' tha means ta survive tha tribulations second I do not appreciate you disguisin a thugged-out downlizzle ta mah computa as a link ta shiznit therefore I be relinquishin yo' privilege ta post links ta yo' joint you may post links ta other cribs but they up in no way can be hidden as you did up in dis post strutts is ghon be monitorin yo' posts

ha !! .... some one ask me if I could give 0.002% of a flyn flip about getting restricted or banned from this site

Quote from: dadman on September 01, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Solar = "two thangs one is yo' perspectizzle is yo' own n' no mo' erect than mine I say dis cuz I rap directly ta Dogg everyday not all up in a mediary I axed Dogg ta allow me ta live all up in in tha final minutes n' he not only granted mah request he gave me a safe vantage point from which ta observe, n' tha means ta survive tha tribulations second I do not appreciate you disguisin a thugged-out downlizzle ta mah computa as a link ta shiznit therefore I be relinquishin yo' privilege ta post links ta yo' joint you may post links ta other cribs but they up in no way can be hidden as you did up in dis post strutts is ghon be monitorin yo' posts

ha !! .... some one ask me if I could give 0.002% of a flyn flip about getting restricted or banned from this site

Way to mock your host, Dumbazz!

Can someone please get dadman his medication, please???

Quote from: taxed on September 01, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Can someone please get dadman his medication, please???

Geesh ... or the banhammer: "One lump or two?"

Quote from: taxed on September 01, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Can someone please get dadman his medication, please???

I did, it came in the form of a boot.

Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
I did, it came in the form of a boot.

Well deserved.  :thumbup:

Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
I did, it came in the form of a boot.

Thank you!  :thumbsup:

Yeah, a bit arrogant, but it was his incessant spamming the forum with his site in hopes of giving it "some" credibility I took issue with.
If he wants to boost his readership, let him pay out of his own pocket and quit leaching off of others, that's not Christian, that's liberal.

Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
Yeah, a bit arrogant, but it was his incessant spamming the forum with his site in hopes of giving it "some" credibility I took issue with.
If he wants to boost his readership, let him pay out of his own pocket and quit leaching off of others, that's not Christian, that's liberal.

Clean up on aisle ten...
I think I have cleaned up all the links to his site on this thread .  The only links are to other sites. 

Quote from: walkstall on September 01, 2015, 05:20:19 PM

Clean up on aisle ten...
I think I have cleaned up all the links to his site on this thread .  The only links are to other sites.

Thanks my friend, I was dreading tackling it.