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Nope! Every generation points to evidence of moral decay and corruption as proof the end is nigh.
At any given time in history, society can reference evil, and today is no different, it's all about perspective from where one stands.

Where I stand, things look pretty damned good. We just defeated an enemy that has had it's presence quite prevalent in politics for many a decade hiding in plain sight within the GOP, which took an even bigger enemy within the Dim party to expose through blatant hypocrisy.
Yes, the establishment within the GOP, a group of people that lied their way into power to make/keep rich and powerful, an unseen entity that cares nothing for the country.

Yes, it took the evil of one party to expose the evil in it's opponent, and it happened during our generation, a generation that had it's fill of corruption and was willing to do something about it.
From where I stand, this looks like the beginning of a bright future ahead. Thank you God.

And what say you?

Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2014, 05:07:22 AM
Nope! Every generation points to evidence of moral decay and corruption as proof the end is nigh.
At any given time in history, society can reference evil, and today is no different, it's all about perspective from where one stands.

Where I stand, things look pretty damned good. We just defeated an enemy that has had it's presence quite prevalent in politics for many a decade hiding in plain sight within the GOP, which took an even bigger enemy within the Dim party to expose through blatant hypocrisy.
Yes, the establishment within the GOP, a group of people that lied their way into power to make/keep rich and powerful, an unseen entity that cares nothing for the country.

Yes, it took the evil of one party to expose the evil in it's opponent, and it happened during our generation, a generation that had it's fill of corruption and was willing to do something about it.
From where I stand, this looks like the beginning of a bright future ahead. Thank you God.

And what say you?

I believe we are constantly being tested by God and that is good because it makes most of us better. We have much to be grateful as Solar mentioned. Our domestic political situation is a temporary situation that the American people have realized. A bigger challenge (test) is how we deal with Islamic terrorists. They have been in existence for a 1000 years, but they have been isolated in other parts of world until now. It is about good vs. evil and God wants us to choose to come out behind "good" and not ignore the threat.

Hmm... I don't believe in the "end of time."  Only time as we know it.   Time is something we need as a measuring device.   When people or the earth is no long around there will be no time as we know it. 

I have out lived the majority of the people of earth to date.  I ask myself why, as I am not the brightest crayon in the box.   :lol:

Nope.

Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2014, 05:07:22 AM
Nope! Every generation points to evidence of moral decay and corruption as proof the end is nigh.
At any given time in history, society can reference evil, and today is no different, it's all about perspective from where one stands.

Where I stand, things look pretty damned good. We just defeated an enemy that has had it's presence quite prevalent in politics for many a decade hiding in plain sight within the GOP, which took an even bigger enemy within the Dim party to expose through blatant hypocrisy.
Yes, the establishment within the GOP, a group of people that lied their way into power to make/keep rich and powerful, an unseen entity that cares nothing for the country.

Yes, it took the evil of one party to expose the evil in it's opponent, and it happened during our generation, a generation that had it's fill of corruption and was willing to do something about it.
From where I stand, this looks like the beginning of a bright future ahead. Thank you God.

And what say you?

While I agree that every generation can and has claimed to be in end times, I think we live in the only time where it is plausible from a logistics point of view. I believe microchip implants will fulfill the mark of the beast prophecies and it wasn't until now that this was a possibility. Not to mention the fact that recent generations are flocking to atheism in droves, Christian persecution is on the rise, Islam is on the rise, and issues that go against God's law (homosexuality) are being viewed as good while opposition is viewed as evil.

But perhaps the biggest thing that sways my perspective (other than a strong hunch) is that at no time in history has a country had the ability to call up a 200,000,000 man army as the Bible mentions until now. China has that capability. I believe China, Russia, and Iran will become strong allies. Our allies are already being weakened by a rise in Islam within their borders because I believe they are planning a global domination conquest soon to establish a one world government and currency.

One thing is certain, things will continue to get worse. The second a leader emerges who is able to profess peace and have the masses worship him, like Obama but not stupid or woefully incompetent, I'll be on guard. As soon as that leader survives a mortal head wound, I'll be on the run and praying until I can't pray anymore.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 16, 2014, 09:18:45 AM
While I agree that every generation can and has claimed to be in end times, I think we live in the only time where it is plausible from a logistics point of view. I believe microchip implants will fulfill the mark of the beast prophecies and it wasn't until now that this was a possibility. Not to mention the fact that recent generations are flocking to atheism in droves, Christian persecution is on the rise, Islam is on the rise, and issues that go against God's law (homosexuality) are being viewed as good while opposition is viewed as evil.

But perhaps the biggest thing that sways my perspective (other than a strong hunch) is that at no time in history has a country had the ability to call up a 200,000,000 man army as the Bible mentions until now. China has that capability. I believe China, Russia, and Iran will become strong allies. Our allies are already being weakened by a rise in Islam within their borders because I believe they are planning a global domination conquest soon to establish a one world government and currency.

One thing is certain, things will continue to get worse. The second a leader emerges who is able to profess peace and have the masses worship him, like Obama but not stupid or woefully incompetent, I'll be on guard. As soon as that leader survives a mortal head wound, I'll be on the run and praying until I can't pray anymore.

I have no doubt that man is on the fast track to doing himself in, but not quite yet.
We've only seen one generation completely reliant on technology, and that will only worsen, but I think it'll take a few generations before they reach the point of being unable to function on their own.
As you pointed out, implants, as in memory expansion as scientists are now testing.

Imagine a populace completely dependent on tech for their very thought and survival, now imagine that generation hit with a massive EMP blast, whether nuke or sun, it would bring said civilization to it's knees.
I'm thinking maybe another 200 years.

Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
I have no doubt that man is on the fast track to doing himself in, but not quite yet.
We've only seen one generation completely reliant on technology, and that will only worsen, but I think it'll take a few generations before they reach the point of being unable to function on their own.
As you pointed out, implants, as in memory expansion as scientists are now testing.

Imagine a populace completely dependent on tech for their very thought and survival, now imagine that generation hit with a massive EMP blast, whether nuke or sun, it would bring said civilization to it's knees.
I'm thinking maybe another 200 years.

I love watching people walk into walls and falling when walking off curbs using there smart phones.  I know I am sick bastard.   :lol:

The great thing about continually predicting the end of the world is, eventually, you're going to be right!

Darth

I believe that Jesus Christ told us specifically that "No one knows but the Father."; and "for all these things must come to pass, (ie: all the signs people use to proclaim us to be in the end times) but the end is not yet."

IMO, any attempt by men to interpret biblical passages to predict the end times is an act of extreme arrogance. Christ is warning us of two basic principles. One: do not allow ourselves to be deceived by false prophecy. (ie: those items the Bible describes as sinful for 4000 years is suddenly "misinterpreted")  Two: keep our own houses in order at all times, because our INDIVIDUAL end can, and often does, come without warning.

Quote from: zewazir on December 16, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
I believe that Jesus Christ told us specifically that "No one knows but the Father."; and "for all these things must come to pass, (ie: all the signs people use to proclaim us to be in the end times) but the end is not yet."

IMO, any attempt by men to interpret biblical passages to predict the end times is an act of extreme arrogance. Christ is warning us of two basic principles. One: do not allow ourselves to be deceived by false prophecy. (ie: those items the Bible describes as sinful for 4000 years is suddenly "misinterpreted")  Two: keep our own houses in order at all times, because our INDIVIDUAL end can, and often does, come without warning.

Forgive me for playing the Devils Advocate, but Jesus Christ said nothing of the sort.

Or, maybe he did. We just don't know!

You see, The New Testament (at best) is a chronicle of things other people said Jesus said. The earliest know written record of the life of Christ only dates from about 50 years after his death. The codification of what would come to be known as the New Testament didn't occur until nearly 3 centuries after his death!

Now, think of all of the acts and words attributed to someone famous who died in, say, the 1950s! How accurate are those quotes, etc?

Now, think about the stories of our Founders, like George Washington (nope - he didn't chop down a cherry tree - sorry) and realize how much that has been written about them, while exceedingly popular, just never happened!

I'm not saying the Bible isn't worthy of study, I'm just saying we shouldn't take it as Gospel... :wink:

Darth

Quote from: zewazir on December 16, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
I believe that Jesus Christ told us specifically that "No one knows but the Father."; and "for all these things must come to pass, (ie: all the signs people use to proclaim us to be in the end times) but the end is not yet."

IMO, any attempt by men to interpret biblical passages to predict the end times is an act of extreme arrogance. Christ is warning us of two basic principles. One: do not allow ourselves to be deceived by false prophecy. (ie: those items the Bible describes as sinful for 4000 years is suddenly "misinterpreted")  Two: keep our own houses in order at all times, because our INDIVIDUAL end can, and often does, come without warning.

No one is predicting anything in this thread. But the Bible also says to keep watch for the signs because He will return like a thief in the night so you want to be ready. Furthermore, it says we won't know the day or time. It doesn't say we won't know the generation or year. In addition, if yohr interpretation of "the end is not yet" (I don't know where the Bible says that but if you can give the scripture, I'd like to read it in context) but if your interpretation is that it won't EVER happen because it allegedly says not yet, you need to rethink how you read scripture. It will happen someday and we needt keep an eye open and be spiritually ready if it is in our time.

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 16, 2014, 08:45:44 PM
Forgive me for playing the Devils Advocate, but Jesus Christ said nothing of the sort.

Or, maybe he did. We just don't know!

You see, The New Testament (at best) is a chronicle of things other people said Jesus said. The earliest know written record of the life of Christ only dates from about 50 years after his death. The codification of what would come to be known as the New Testament didn't occur until nearly 3 centuries after his death!

Now, think of all of the acts and words attributed to someone famous who died in, say, the 1950s! How accurate are those quotes, etc?

Now, think about the stories of our Founders, like George Washington (nope - he didn't chop down a cherry tree - sorry) and realize how much that has been written about them, while exceedingly popular, just never happened!

I'm not saying the Bible isn't worthy of study, I'm just saying we shouldn't take it as Gospel... :wink:

Darth

Historically speaking and if we take what you say as truth, 50 years is pretty close. Since members of his generation would still be alive to contradict any glaring errors, lies, or distortions and no such person came forward, your point is moot. Again, that's assuming that the neo-atheist assertion of who wrote the Bible when is accurate. And that is a big if.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 16, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
Historically speaking and if we take what you say as truth, 50 years is pretty close. Since members of his generation would still be alive to contradict any glaring errors, lies, or distortions and no such person came forward, your point is moot. Again, that's assuming that the neo-atheist assertion of who wrote the Bible when is accurate. And that is a big if.

Assuming the apostles were no older than 20 years old during Christ's ministry, add 50 years to that and you get 70. If they were older, say, in their early thirties, that would make 80 plus.

The average life span in the Middle East during the time of Christ was 40 years.

Even assuming that the written accounts of Christ were "fact" checked by an aged Apostle around 70 AD, those memories are sure to be less than accurate.

Plus, I find it a bit humorous when I am accused of being a "neo-atheist". I'm not. I believe in God, I just don't think I should have to check my brain at the door to do so!

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 17, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
Assuming the apostles were no older than 20 years old during Christ's ministry, add 50 years to that and you get 70. If they were older, say, in their early thirties, that would make 80 plus.

The average life span in the Middle East during the time of Christ was 40 years.

Even assuming that the written accounts of Christ were "fact" checked by an aged Apostle around 70 AD, those memories are sure to be less than accurate.

Plus, I find it a bit humorous when I am accused of being a "neo-atheist". I'm not. I believe in God, I just don't think I should have to check my brain at the door to do so!

Darth

How do you separate what you deem to be truth from fallacy?

I'm going with a choice not among the poll options: Decisive Maybe.

Things in the US and the world are a mess on more levels than I care to try to list, and that is consistent with how I understand the Bible - New Testament especially - to describe the "end times". OTOH, I lived through the Late Great Hype era of Pre-Mil-Pre-Trib teaching where it was strongly suggested (and sometimes taught as truth) that this world's end would come within a "generation (i.e. about 40 years) of the formation of the nation of Israel. That approximately 40 years ended over 25 years ago! I'm 60, and I do not think the end of this world-system will come in my lifetime (not that I'd object to entering eternity "early").

So I think Jesus really meant what He said when He said that, "No man knows the day nor the hour." I think it highly likely that that will be true up to the moment of His return. And I'm just fine with that.

Quote from: SVPete on December 18, 2014, 05:56:33 AM
I'm going with a choice not among the poll options: Decisive Maybe.

Things in the US and the world are a mess on more levels than I care to try to list, and that is consistent with how I understand the Bible - New Testament especially - to describe the "end times". OTOH, I lived through the Late Great Hype era of Pre-Mil-Pre-Trib teaching where it was strongly suggested (and sometimes taught as truth) that this world's end would come within a "generation (i.e. about 40 years) of the formation of the nation of Israel. That approximately 40 years ended over 25 years ago! I'm 60, and I do not think the end of this world-system will come in my lifetime (not that I'd object to entering eternity "early").

So I think Jesus really meant what He said when He said that, "No man knows the day nor the hour." I think it highly likely that that will be true up to the moment of His return. And I'm just fine with that.

Wasn't that 1967? 40 years would be 2007 so it ended 7 years ago, not 25. Unless I missed something. Plus, the 40 year generation isn't in the Bible (I don't think) so even that is iffy. But still valid points that we really have no idea until it happens.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 17, 2014, 01:59:07 PM
How do you separate what you deem to be truth from fallacy?

Common sense! It works every time its tried!

:wink:

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 18, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Common sense! It works every time its tried!

:wink:

Darth

So you're picking and choosing what you find true in the Bible based on whether or not you can logically understand it? If you believe parts of the Bible to be illogical or impossible, wouldn't "common sense" tell you you can't believe any of it? Yet you claim not to be an atheist?

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 18, 2014, 08:43:37 AM
Wasn't that 1967? 40 years would be 2007 so it ended 7 years ago, not 25. Unless I missed something. Plus, the 40 year generation isn't in the Bible (I don't think) so even that is iffy. But still valid points that we really have no idea until it happens.

Israel became a nation in 1948, and was immediately fighting against surrounding Arabs for its life. Israel preempted "surprise" attacks in 1956 and 1967, winning both wars. So (1948) + (40) = 1988; and (2014) - (1988) = 26.

I really do not understand why you questioned my comment, "(t)hat approximately 40 years ended over 25 years ago," without first checking Wikipedia or using Google to learn when modern Israel became a nation.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 18, 2014, 08:53:15 PM
So you're picking and choosing what you find true in the Bible based on whether or not you can logically understand it? If you believe parts of the Bible to be illogical or impossible, wouldn't "common sense" tell you you can't believe any of it? Yet you claim not to be an atheist?

You're best argument is the classic bifurcation fallacy?

If any part of the Bible is true, it must ALL be true? What rational person thinks that way?

Is that how you assess things in your day to day life?

How does that work out for you? :huh:

Darth

Youse guys can argue this until the cows come home. Here's my thing. If we're looking at "the end times," then humanity is done, finito, sayonara.

I don't believe that's happening. I don't believe it's going to happen anytime in the foreseeable future. I don't even think such an event makes sense, or is likely to happen.

If we assume that a benevolent God created us and blessed us and has nurtured us through the ages, why would he suddenly snap his fingers and say, "That's it, kids, lights out?" Why turn off the spigot? Even if it's a good idea in some cosmic way, why now? What have we done lately to piss the Man off that we haven't done before?

It's one thing to point out, to take note, that this country is in some deep shit because of a lot of lib/prog policies that have brought us grief. It's another thing altogether to magnify that into the Apocalypse. The problems we have now cannot be solved overnight. But the problems we have now can be solved, and without divine intervention.

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 19, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Youse guys can argue this until the cows come home. Here's my thing. If we're looking at "the end times," then humanity is done, finito, sayonara.

I don't believe that's happening. I don't believe it's going to happen anytime in the foreseeable future. I don't even think such an event makes sense, or is likely to happen.

If we assume that a benevolent God created us and blessed us and has nurtured us through the ages, why would he suddenly snap his fingers and say, "That's it, kids, lights out?" Why turn off the spigot? Even if it's a good idea in some cosmic way, why now? What have we done lately to piss the Man off that we haven't done before?

It's one thing to point out, to take note, that this country is in some deep shit because of a lot of lib/prog policies that have brought us grief. It's another thing altogether to magnify that into the Apocalypse. The problems we have now cannot be solved overnight. But the problems we have now can be solved, and without divine intervention.

T I don't think the earth is in deep do do until the sun starts going out.  Until then man will just killing himself a little at a time.  :popcorn:

Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2014, 02:36:09 PM
T I don't think the earth is in deep do do until the sun starts going out.  Until then man will just killing himself a little at a time.  :popcorn:

Agreed.

Darth

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 19, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Youse guys can argue this until the cows come home. Here's my thing. If we're looking at "the end times," then humanity is done, finito, sayonara.

I don't believe that's happening. I don't believe it's going to happen anytime in the foreseeable future. I don't even think such an event makes sense, or is likely to happen.

If we assume that a benevolent God created us and blessed us and has nurtured us through the ages, why would he suddenly snap his fingers and say, "That's it, kids, lights out?" Why turn off the spigot? Even if it's a good idea in some cosmic way, why now? What have we done lately to piss the Man off that we haven't done before?

It's one thing to point out, to take note, that this country is in some deep shit because of a lot of lib/prog policies that have brought us grief. It's another thing altogether to magnify that into the Apocalypse. The problems we have now cannot be solved overnight. But the problems we have now can be solved, and without divine intervention.

Agree,  if anything, man is his own worst enemy, whether it's war, or pestilence, one thing that's certain and history proves it, a meteor will straighten the whole mess out one day. :biggrin:

Quote from: SVPete on December 19, 2014, 05:43:34 AM
Israel became a nation in 1948, and was immediately fighting against surrounding Arabs for its life. Israel preempted "surprise" attacks in 1956 and 1967, winning both wars. So (1948) + (40) = 1988; and (2014) - (1988) = 26.

I really do not understand why you questioned my comment, "(t)hat approximately 40 years ended over 25 years ago," without first checking Wikipedia or using Google to learn when modern Israel became a nation.

I really don't understand why you're acting all butthurt when I asked a simple question.

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 19, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
You're best argument is the classic bifurcation fallacy?

If any part of the Bible is true, it must ALL be true? What rational person thinks that way?

Is that how you assess things in your day to day life?

How does that work out for you? :huh:

Darth

Ah the old philosophy 101 fallacy fallback of the pseudointellectual. Don't lower yourself to that level. It's what the juniors and seniors in college do to make themselves feel smart.

To your point, if you believe the Bible is the word of God, then yes, you have to believe it is all real and divine inspiration. You don't get a choice. Not a logical fallacy, it's the word of God or it isn't.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 19, 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Ah the old philosophy 101 fallacy fallback of the pseudointellectual. Don't lower yourself to that level. It's what the juniors and seniors in college do to make themselves feel smart.

To your point, If you believe the Bible is the word of God, then yes, you have to believe it is all real and divine inspiration. You don't get a choice. Not a logical fallacy, it's the word of God or it isn't.

I do believe you hit the nail on the head. If you do not believe the bible as truth, you are left with pieces of paper. Hard to believe or define a God from that. If you  believe in a God powerful enough to create the universe,  writing a truthful bible would not be so hard?

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 19, 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Ah the old philosophy 101 fallacy fallback of the pseudointellectual. Don't lower yourself to that level. It's what the juniors and seniors in college do to make themselves feel smart.

To your point, if you believe the Bible is the word of God, then yes, you have to believe it is all real and divine inspiration. You don't get a choice. Not a logical fallacy, it's the word of God or it isn't.

Quite true!

My point, however, is how can anyone accept the Bible as the inspired word of God (who, presumably is infallible) when it depicts events (such as the creation of the world) that are clearly inconsistent with established scientific fact?

I feel it is much better, and in the end, more persuasive to accept the Bible for what it is - the philosophical writings of many men (and probably women too) that spans the centuries and tries to make sense of the Human Experience.

In my view, the Bible is not a book about God, but a book about man, and a very human one at that!

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
Quite true!

My point, however, is how can anyone accept the Bible as the inspired word of God (who, presumably is infallible) when it depicts events (such as the creation of the world) that are clearly inconsistent with established scientific fact?

I feel it is much better, and in the end, more persuasive to accept the Bible for what it is - the philosophical writings of many men (and probably women too) that spans the centuries and tries to make sense of the Human Experience.

In my view, the Bible is not a book about God, but a book about man, and a very human one at that!

Darth

I don't see the Bible as at odds with science at all. The two answer fundamentally different questions so it just seems like they are at odds. Science is how but the Bible is why. In fact, the more we know about science and nature, the more complex it becomes. To me, this adds more credibility to a Creator than for chance.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 19, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
I really don't understand why you're acting all butthurt when I asked a simple question.

If you want, I could edit real scarcasm into that post. Just so you could see the difference.

Maybe it's just that I'm approaching geezerhood, or maybe it's having been around Pre-Mil, Pre-Trib Evangelicals for over 4 decades, but I thought the fact that Israel became independent in 1948 and having fought wars as a nation in 1948 and 1956 very common knowledge. I sit corrected. I also commonly check comments I make about historical events, but maybe I'm odd that way. Or maybe I've been around Internet news/politics discussion sites a long time and have developed defensive habits to preclude quibbling.

Quote from: SVPete on December 21, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
If you want, I could edit real scarcasm into that post. Just so you could see the difference.

Maybe it's just that I'm approaching geezerhood, or maybe it's having been around Pre-Mil, Pre-Trib Evangelicals for over 4 decades, but I thought the fact that Israel became independent in 1948 and having fought wars as a nation in 1948 and 1956 very common knowledge. I sit corrected. I also commonly check comments I make about historical events, but maybe I'm odd that way. Or maybe I've been around Internet news/politics discussion sites a long time and have developed defensive habits to preclude quibbling.

I just think a more appropriate response to a simple question would have been something along the lines of "You're getting the six days war mixed up with when they were established as a nation." That's how a normal person would respond to an innocuous question during a normal conversation. I don't wiki every historical fact I read posted on the internet and I don't wiki everything I post. I just expect to be corrected or answered in a civil manner when I ask a question or make a mistake. This site sure has a lot of aggressive geezers or people approaching geezerhood.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 21, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
I just think a more appropriate response to a simple question would have been something along the lines of "You're getting the six days war mixed up with when they were established as a nation." That's how a normal person would respond to an innocuous question during a normal conversation. I don't wiki every historical fact I read posted on the internet and I don't wiki everything I post. I just expect to be corrected or answered in a civil manner when I ask a question or make a mistake. This site sure has a lot of aggressive geezers or people approaching geezerhood.

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It feels like I'm always on someone's lawn, get yelled at, and step off the lawn only to find I'm on another lawn again. If I live to be in old age, I know I'll be the same way though. I should be taking notes on how to be properly grumpy.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 21, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
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It feels like I'm always on someone's lawn, get yelled at, and step off the lawn only to find I'm on another lawn again. If I live to be in old age, I know I'll be the same way though. I should be taking notes on how to be properly grumpy.

You're like me -- you've just about got it down.  :tounge:

It's getting to the point where I don't even like myself any more. I'm just a pain in the ass, and I know it, and I hate it, and I don't even want to change it. Somehow, I've started to get comfortable with the word 'curmudgeon.'

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 21, 2014, 05:47:09 PM
You're like me -- you've just about got it down.  :tounge:

It's getting to the point where I don't even like myself any more. I'm just a pain in the ass, and I know it, and I hate it, and I don't even want to change it. Somehow, I've started to get comfortable with the word 'curmudgeon.'

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Bet you're like me, turning into your dad? :scared:
Actually, like him, I too wear it like a badge of honor. Ya just get to a point in your life, where you just don't give a fuck what people say or think about you anymore, and I'm definitely there.

People on this forum think I'm an ass, well let me assure them, I am! :biggrin:

Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Bet you're like me, turning into your dad? :scared:
Actually, like him, I too wear it like a badge of honor. Ya just get to a point in your life, where you just don't give a fuck what people say or think about you anymore, and I'm definitely there.

People on this forum think I'm an ass, well let me assure them, I am! :biggrin:

Let me assure you, I was there long before you.    :lol:

The Dr. just reminds me of a 22 year, trying to impress the blond sitting next to him.     He seems to lose his temper a lot for being a Dr. 

T stop using them big words.   I have to stop reading to see what you said.    (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe85%2Fftby24%2FSmilies%2FremoteImage-4.gif&hash=96d2a22c4ee3eb3bb82320dac587db5ab49e8d21)

Quote from: walkstall on December 21, 2014, 07:01:52 PM
Let me assure you, I was there long before you.    :lol:

The Dr. just reminds me of a 22 year, trying to impress the blond sitting next to him.     He seems to lose his temper a lot for being a Dr. 

T stop using them big words.   I have to stop reading to see what you said.    (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe85%2Fftby24%2FSmilies%2FremoteImage-4.gif&hash=96d2a22c4ee3eb3bb82320dac587db5ab49e8d21)

I don't lose my temper! I just don't put up with crap. I assure you though that I certainly am not mad or anything when writing my rants in response to some people. I actually find it humorous and get a kick out of it. If someone here knew me in real life, they would vouch for that.

And I'm not 22 or impressing a blonde. I'm a whopping 33 and married to a Mexican woman. She can put up with my spiciness.

Quote from: walkstall on December 21, 2014, 07:01:52 PM
Let me assure you, I was there long before you.    :lol:

The Dr. just reminds me of a 22 year, trying to impress the blond sitting next to him.     He seems to lose his temper a lot for being a Dr. 

T stop using them big words.   I have to stop reading to see what you said.    (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe85%2Fftby24%2FSmilies%2FremoteImage-4.gif&hash=96d2a22c4ee3eb3bb82320dac587db5ab49e8d21)

Curmudgeon = grump. I'm not trying to confuse anybody.  :tounge: (Anyway, it's only three syllables....)

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 21, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
I don't lose my temper! I just don't put up with crap. I assure you though that I certainly am not mad or anything when writing my rants in response to some people. I actually find it humorous and get a kick out of it. If someone here knew me in real life, they would vouch for that.

And I'm not 22 or impressing a blonde. I'm a whopping 33 and married to a Mexican woman. She can put up with my spiciness.

Wow!  Should that impress me.   I been married longer than you been alive to a half breed just like myself.   We have 3 kids 4 grand kids and 3 great grand kids.  (and one mean ass cat)

Quote from: walkstall on December 21, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
Wow!  Should that impress me.   I been married longer than you been alive to a half breed just like myself.   We have 3 kids 4 grand kids and 3 great grand kids.  (and one mean ass cat)

Why do you think everything I post is an attempt to impress you? It's a forum and I'm making conversation. It's not all about you. Calm down.

"On the other hand", he said, rudely attempting to drag the thread back onto topic...

One might say that we are always in the "End Times", as "The World" begins for each of us the day we are born and ends for each of us the day we die.

:huh:

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 08:29:45 PM
"On the other hand", he said, rudely attempting to drag the thread back onto topic...

One might say that we are always in the "End Times", as "The World" begins for each of us the day we are born and ends for each of us the day we die.

:huh:

Darth

Life is only a passage of time.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on December 21, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
I just think a more appropriate response to a simple question would have been something along the lines of "You're getting the six days war mixed up with when they were established as a nation." That's how a normal person would respond to an innocuous question during a normal conversation. I don't wiki every historical fact I read posted on the internet and I don't wiki everything I post. I just expect to be corrected or answered in a civil manner when I ask a question or make a mistake. This site sure has a lot of aggressive geezers or people approaching geezerhood.

I've never claimed to be normal.

I have trouble fathoming how what should be very common historical knowledge is not common. And how people can make statements about history without even bothering to take a few seconds to use a search engine or Wikipedia.

And your post corrected my math based on the factoid that Israel became a nation in 1967. Correcting people's math isn't "aggressive". Get the 2x4 out of your own eye before inspecting mine for sawdust specs!

What was this thread about? It better not be about me, because I'm tiresome and boring.

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 08:29:45 PM
"On the other hand", he said, rudely attempting to drag the thread back onto topic...

One might say that we are always in the "End Times", as "The World" begins for each of us the day we are born and ends for each of us the day we die.

:huh:

Darth

An on-topic post?! :scared: Gonna have to Report this to the Moderators!

As soon as I pry my tongue out of my cheek!

Quote from: SVPete on December 22, 2014, 06:09:14 AM
An on-topic post?! :scared: Gonna have to Report this to the Moderators!

As soon as I pry my tongue out of my cheek!

As soon as I find a pencil and paper I will make a note of that.  Memo to one of the admins I need more office supplies.

Quote from: walkstall on December 21, 2014, 08:38:04 PM
Life is only a passage of time.

"Man fears time, but time fears the pyramids!"

-Arab Proverb

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 22, 2014, 02:28:29 PM
"Man fears time, but time fears the pyramids!"

-Arab Proverb

Darth

I think it ought to be the other way around. The pyramids have no ability to resist the onslaughts of time, which include some incursions by men, but mostly the effects of weather, and the inevitable deterioration of the basic materials used in their construction. (Um, they used a lot of desert sand, a material notoriously difficult to convince to cling to itself. Also they used 'rock' that is essentially desert sand smashed into a solid. Same story.)

As far as we know, time is infinite. The pyramids, assuming that is so, and without massive intervention by man, will eventually disappear.

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 22, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
I think it ought to be the other way around. The pyramids have no ability to resist the onslaughts of time, which include some incursions by men, but mostly the effects of weather, and the inevitable deterioration of the basic materials used in their construction. (Um, they used a lot of desert sand, a material notoriously difficult to convince to cling to itself. Also they used 'rock' that is essentially desert sand smashed into a solid. Same story.)

As far as we know, time is infinite. The pyramids, assuming that is so, and without massive intervention by man, will eventually disappear.

I see the Arabs are holding to there old ways of thinking.

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 22, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
I think it ought to be the other way around. The pyramids have no ability to resist the onslaughts of time, which include some incursions by men, but mostly the effects of weather, and the inevitable deterioration of the basic materials used in their construction. (Um, they used a lot of desert sand, a material notoriously difficult to convince to cling to itself. Also they used 'rock' that is essentially desert sand smashed into a solid. Same story.)

As far as we know, time is infinite. The pyramids, assuming that is so, and without massive intervention by man, will eventually disappear.

Yep, look at what happened to the great Arizona pyramids built a million years ago. :biggrin:
But seriously, man has no clue as to how many times the planet has turned inside out, we only have a best guess. Nothing is forever.

All this talk about the end of times and not one mention of global warming? :lol:

Quote from: s3779m on December 23, 2014, 06:50:52 AM
All this talk about the end of times and not one mention of global warming? :lol:

:thumbsup:
Excellent observation!

Quote from: s3779m on December 23, 2014, 06:50:52 AM
All this talk about the end of times and not one mention of global warming? :lol:

That or how the right wing zealots are fascist Nazis who will bring down the planet with nukes and stuff. Any other forum on the internet and the lefty twats would be throwing that crap out.

Quote from: s3779m on December 23, 2014, 06:50:52 AM
All this talk about the end of times and not one mention of global warming? :lol:

I'm not worried about global warming. I bought a case of sun-block and I got started building my new houseboat! Yep, started digging the basement just last week....  :tounge:

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 23, 2014, 09:37:35 AM
I'm not worried about global warming. I bought a case of sun-block and I got started building my new houseboat! Yep, started digging the basement just last week....  :tounge:

:lol:
True story. As a kid I watched a neighbor building a boat in his garage, of course he took years, and after about a decade of no progress, he finally became determined to finish it.
Of course his plans strayed a bit in the interim and he added a flying deck for fishing and relaxing.

Yeah, he had to remove the face of the garage to get it out. :lol: :lol:

Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2014, 10:15:46 AM
:lol:
True story. As a kid I watched a neighbor building a boat in his garage, of course he took years, and after about a decade of no progress, he finally became determined to finish it.
Of course his plans strayed a bit in the interim and he added a flying deck for fishing and relaxing.

Yeah, he had to remove the face of the garage to get it out. :lol: :lol:

Oh yeah. One of my dad's favorite "briar" jokes. (A "briar" to him was short for "briarhopper," which was a Kentuckian, or maybe a West Virginian.)

How many briars does it take to put in a basement window? Answer: 11. It only requires one to install the window, but it'll take the other ten a couple days to dig a hole for the ladder.

Your neighbor should have hired a crew of "briars."  :tounge:

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 23, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Oh yeah. One of my dad's favorite "briar" jokes. (A "briar" to him was short for "briarhopper," which was a Kentuckian, or maybe a West Virginian.)

How many briars does it take to put in a basement window? Answer: 11. It only requires one to install the window, but it'll take the other ten a couple days to dig a hole for the ladder.

Your neighbor should have hired a crew of "briars."  :tounge:

:lol:
Cute...

This was going to be a "Simple poll."   (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blagoticone.com%2Femoticone%2Fexpressions%2Fgros3d130.gif&hash=105ff13de2924def227f9645ec4c8decdabefb9f)