Libs love "separation of church and state" Right?

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T Hunt

#90
July 27, 2021, 08:35:54 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 06:28:27 AMAren't all modern Christians more moral than God? 
No they arent, modern Christians honestly attempt tp follow all the commands God has given them in the bible.

QuoteEven if it were legal, would you see it as morally acceptable to kill your kids for arguing, kill your wife for braiding her hair or kill your neighbor for working on the Sabbath?
Why would we want to do a bunch of stuff like you listed that God never commanded us to do??

Sorry but God has NEVER commanded his children to do anything immoral, as God decides what is moral, not the sinful human heart.


 
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

T Hunt

#91
July 27, 2021, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 07:33:31 AM
Yes, you have nothing to say because you have no evidence to back up your hate filled lies. Why else would you make up such things about the bible out of whole cloth and without evidence?
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

Sick Of Silence

#92
July 27, 2021, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 27, 2021, 08:35:54 AMNo they arent, modern Christians honestly attempt tp follow all the commands God has given them in the bible.
Why would we want to do a bunch of stuff like you listed that God never commanded us to do??

Sorry but God has NEVER commanded his children to do anything immoral, as God decides what is moral, not the sinful human heart.

That is what I/we mentioned pages ago. America is based on Judeo Christian values. That is not "combining" church and state. It establishes the ethics, values, and morals a society needs to flourish and survive. You don't even need to be religious to agree with it. A Ten Commandments type of thing. You don't even have to be religious to follow it.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

tac

#93
July 27, 2021, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 27, 2021, 08:41:57 AMYes, you have nothing to say because you have no evidence to back up your hate filled lies. Why else would you make up such things about the bible out of whole cloth and without evidence?
He's(?)a troll, why expect anything else?

p1tchblack

#94
July 27, 2021, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 27, 2021, 08:43:45 AMYes, you have nothing to say because you have no evidence to back up your hate filled lies. Why else would you make up such things about the bible out of whole cloth and without evidence?

I have plenty to say, but I get the impression that continuing those thoughts on this thread would give others the ammo they need (want?) to ban me again.

I'll just start something on the religious category of the site at some point.
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

T Hunt

#95
July 27, 2021, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 27, 2021, 09:03:05 AMThat is what I/we mentioned pages ago. America is based on Judeo Christian values. That is not "combining" church and state. It establishes the ethics, values, and morals a society needs to flourish and survive. You don't even need to be religious to agree with it. A Ten Commandments type of thing. You don't even have to be religious to follow it.

Exactly! But these people hate christians and...no, they really hate God himself, then they take it out on christians. Their hate blinds them to reality and makes them easy for the devil to further manipulate.

I like to use the word THEOCRACY to describe what we DONT want in america, ie the church AS the state. Thats the thing libs are really complaining about, but no christian is calling for such a thing.
There is a big difference between a theocracy and having a government informed and influenced by judeo-christian values.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

T Hunt

#96
July 27, 2021, 09:09:35 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 09:07:31 AMI have plenty to say, but I get the impression that continuing those thoughts on this thread would give others the ammo they need (want?) to ban me again.

I'll just start something on the religious category of the site at some point.

Thoughts are fine, lies arent.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

Sick Of Silence

#97
July 27, 2021, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 22, 2021, 01:57:48 PMActually no they dont. Thats not in the constitution. All it demands is that we allow each individual to practice their religion. Anything else is an attempt to add things in that arent there, like the SC did with abortion.

It doesnt say anything about treating the religions themselves the same or allowing them all equally into the private sphere. Only one religion was part of our founding, so that religion will always be celebrated publicly more than any other.

And culturally as well we will always be majority christian. Thats not going to change.

Remember, according to the constitution, all AMERICANS are BORN equal under the LAW.
But there is nothing in the constitution that says all religions are equal, only that each individual has the right to practice it, nor that anyone has the right to be free FROM religion.

Now, if not all religions are equal, can we not be free from a religion that goes against our ethics, values, and morals? Sharia law goes against our ethics, values, and morals?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

walkstall

#98
July 27, 2021, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 09:07:31 AMI have plenty to say, but I get the impression that continuing those thoughts on this thread would give others the ammo they need (want?) to ban me again.

I'll just start something on the religious category of the site at some point.

If so, be set to back up your BS posts.  It's not your debating skills that keeps you on this board.  You are a education tool for the 700+ Guests that come in everyday.  You have had 3 warning after your ban, so I have all the ammo I need.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Possum

#99
July 27, 2021, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 09:07:31 AMI have plenty to say, but I get the impression that continuing those thoughts on this thread would give others the ammo they need (want?) to ban me again.

I'll just start something on the religious category of the site at some point.
You may have something to say that impresses yourself, much like the chess playing pigeon, but you have nothing, you bring nothing, I have had animals that had a higher moral understanding than you are capable of showing. Everyone here sees right through you.

p1tchblack

#100
July 27, 2021, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 27, 2021, 08:35:54 AMNo they arent, modern Christians honestly attempt tp follow all the commands God has given them in the bible.
Why would we want to do a bunch of stuff like you listed that God never commanded us to do??

Sorry but God has NEVER commanded his children to do anything immoral, as God decides what is moral, not the sinful human heart.

So, are you saying that the Bible never commanded Christians specifically to do the things I mentioned or God never commanded anyone to do the things I mentioned?

Or are you doing the not uncommon approach of "The old testament doesn't count"?
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

RV

#101
July 27, 2021, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 06:28:27 AMAren't all modern Christians more moral than God?  Even if it were legal, would you see it as morally acceptable to kill your kids for arguing, kill your wife for braiding her hair or kill your neighbor for working on the Sabbath?

Once again you are stating YOUR lack of ethics and morality NOT God's. As I quoted the Bible, "Thou shalt not commit murder". It's one of the Commandments that you of course ignore...
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

p1tchblack

#102
July 27, 2021, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: RV on July 27, 2021, 11:13:04 AMOnce again you are stating YOUR lack of ethics and morality NOT God's. As I quoted the Bible, "Thou shalt not commit murder". It's one of the Commandments that you of course ignore...

My ethics tell me that I shouldn't kill my children even if they are rebellious.  God teaches something different.
 Are we to consider that as moral solely because it's God saying it's moral?:

A Rebellious Son

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

Sick Of Silence

#103
July 27, 2021, 12:47:07 PM
Don't you know the difference between murder and punishment?

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 11:40:45 AMMy ethics tell me that I shouldn't kill my children even if they are rebellious.  God teaches something different.
 Are we to consider that as moral solely because it's God saying it's moral?:

A Rebellious Son

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.


Well then blame the Jews like a normal lefty does.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

Possum

#104
July 27, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 11:40:45 AMMy ethics tell me that I shouldn't kill my children even if they are rebellious.  God teaches something different.
 Are we to consider that as moral solely because it's God saying it's moral?:

A Rebellious Son

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
If your son was in the process of killing many innocents and you had the chance to shoot him and save many lives, would you do it?
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