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Title: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: je_freedom on December 13, 2015, 07:51:06 PM
This really needs more work,
but what's here should make the point pretty well.


Jesus - born of a virgin
Muhammad - ordinary birth

Jesus - announced by a forerunner (John), whose birth was also miraculous (aged mother)
Muhammad - no forerunner

Jesus - coming was prophesied by numerous prophets for over a thousand years previous
Muhammad - claims to have been prophesied by Jesus in John 14:26 & 15:26
                    (where Jesus prophesied the coming of the Holy Spirit)

Jesus - spent his entire life studying scriptures - could quote them verbatim
Muhammad - never learned to read

Jesus - at age twelve, could discuss scriptures better than Judaism's top scholars
Muhammad - as adult, misquoted scriptures that he had heard second hand,
                    persecuted and exterminated Jews for exposing his ignorance


Jesus - came not to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it
Muhammad - claimed that the Law was wrong, came to "correct" it

Jesus - performed numerous miracles
Muhammad - no miracles claimed

Jesus - taught charity and forgiveness
Muhammad - taught (and practiced) plunder and cruelty

Jesus - lived frugally ("foxes have holes, Son of Man has no place to lay his head")
Muhammad - became wealthy through plunder

Jesus - exposed faults of Judaism's top leaders in public debate (Mark chapter 7, etc.)
Muhammad - faults were exposed by Judaism's followers, so he exterminated them


Jesus - laid down his life to make forgiveness available for even his enemies
Muhammad - took many lives, in one case killed over 800 for not joining his war

Jesus - raised from the dead
Muhammad - still dead

Jesus - made supernatural appearances after his death
Muhammad - no such appearances

Jesus - followers were in one accord after his departure
Muhammad - followers started killing one another after his departure

Jesus - taught humility, servanthood (the greatest of you will be humble like this child)
Muhammad - followers killed one another to become ruler after his death


Jesus - followers performed numerous miracles after his departure
Muhammad - no miracles claimed

Jesus - his religion spread like wildfire, in spite of violent opposition
Muhammad - his religion spread like wildfire, BECAUSE of violent enforcement!
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: walkstall on December 13, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
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Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: DeepBook on December 16, 2015, 02:10:40 AM
Now if only more people knew this.
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: kroz on December 16, 2015, 06:18:19 AM
Quote from: DeepBook on December 16, 2015, 02:10:40 AM
Now if only more people knew this.

If only more people even cared!
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: carlb on December 17, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: kroz on December 16, 2015, 06:18:19 AM
If only more people even cared!

Many are called, FEW are chosen.

They will care as Islam begins to disrupt our peaceful lives.
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on December 13, 2015, 07:51:06 PM
This really needs more work,
but what's here should make the point pretty well.


Jesus - born of a virgin
Muhammad - ordinary birth

Jesus - announced by a forerunner (John), whose birth was also miraculous (aged mother)
Muhammad - no forerunner

Jesus - coming was prophesied by numerous prophets for over a thousand years previous
Muhammad - claims to have been prophesied by Jesus in John 14:26 & 15:26
                    (where Jesus prophesied the coming of the Holy Spirit)

Jesus - spent his entire life studying scriptures - could quote them verbatim
Muhammad - never learned to read

Jesus - at age twelve, could discuss scriptures better than Judaism's top scholars
Muhammad - as adult, misquoted scriptures that he had heard second hand,
                    persecuted and exterminated Jews for exposing his ignorance


Jesus - came not to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it
Muhammad - claimed that the Law was wrong, came to "correct" it

Jesus - performed numerous miracles
Muhammad - no miracles claimed

Jesus - taught charity and forgiveness
Muhammad - taught (and practiced) plunder and cruelty

Jesus - lived frugally ("foxes have holes, Son of Man has no place to lay his head")
Muhammad - became wealthy through plunder

Jesus - exposed faults of Judaism's top leaders in public debate (Mark chapter 7, etc.)
Muhammad - faults were exposed by Judaism's followers, so he exterminated them


Jesus - laid down his life to make forgiveness available for even his enemies
Muhammad - took many lives, in one case killed over 800 for not joining his war

Jesus - raised from the dead
Muhammad - still dead

Jesus - made supernatural appearances after his death
Muhammad - no such appearances

Jesus - followers were in one accord after his departure
Muhammad - followers started killing one another after his departure

Jesus - taught humility, servanthood (the greatest of you will be humble like this child)
Muhammad - followers killed one another to become ruler after his death


Jesus - followers performed numerous miracles after his departure
Muhammad - no miracles claimed

Jesus - his religion spread like wildfire, in spite of violent opposition
Muhammad - his religion spread like wildfire, BECAUSE of violent enforcement!

AWESOME
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
Hey, anyone got some Bling for my Mohammed-Tree ?

You know, Severed Heads, Blood Icicles, that sort of thing....
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
Jesus - followers were in one accord after his departure
Muhammad - followers started killing one another after his departure

Sadly, no.

The Inquisition was all about that. Pray for the Cathars.

Fortunately, Christians eventually learned to get along.

Muslims, no. Give them another thousand years to grow up.
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: je_freedom on December 20, 2015, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
Jesus - followers were in one accord after his departure
Muhammad - followers started killing one another after his departure

Sadly, no.

The Inquisition was all about that. Pray for the Cathars.

Fortunately, Christians eventually learned to get along.

Muslims, no. Give them another thousand years to grow up.

Jesus' followers WERE unified after he left.
The killing started many centuries later.
Obviously, that would indicate that they had strayed far from his teaching.

Muslims?  As long as they stay in Islam,
I doubt that they would EVER become peaceful.
If they did, that would indicate that they had strayed from Muhammad's teaching.
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: SalemCat on December 23, 2015, 09:18:58 PM
Some scholars cite the 1400's as the time Christianity really fell apart.

People could not believe their God would allow the Black Plague to occur.

Have you read this ?
Title: Re: Jesus vs. Muhammad - a comparison
Post by: carlb on December 30, 2015, 02:48:25 AM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 23, 2015, 09:18:58 PM
Some scholars cite the 1400's as the time Christianity really fell apart.

People could not believe their God would allow the Black Plague to occur.

Have you read this ?

It occured because PEOPLE rejected basic laws of sanitation (which the Bible covers).

It could happen again. We're doing the same things.