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Title: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on July 29, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Muslims Will Hate What Franklin Graham Just Said


Franklin Graham, the son of mega-evangelist Billy Graham, has been making waves in the news as of late.

Especially so because he's taking a hardline stance against Islam and Muslims who adhere to the core tenants of the violent religion.

And what he just said over the weekend might really get into some hot water. Both with Muslims as well as liberals.

After it was reported the shooter at the Marine Recruiting center in Chattanooga, TN was perpetrated to be a known Muslim, Graham decided to tell America what Obama won't...that we're under attack from Muslims.

Graham said we are "under attack by Muslims at home and abroad," and then reasoned the only way to help keep us safe here at home is to prevent Muslims from entering into the country.

Thus keeping the enemy at bay.

Graham wrote on his Facebook page this is a reasonable action to take, especially considering how violent Muslims are getting and how determined they are to attack our way of life.

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As you can plainly see, Graham points out  Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez,  is a "radical Muslim whose family was allowed to immigrate to this country from Kuwait."

And he says if this man and his family had been prevented from moving here in the first place it would have done a lot of good to help keep Americans safe.

As he noted:

"We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled...Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad."

Harkening back to how we kept our country safe during World War 2, by preventing the immigration of both Japanese and Germans, he asks why we don't do the same now.

Graham is spot on in his assessment.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/featured/muslims-will-hate-what-franklin-graham-just-said/
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: supsalemgr on July 30, 2015, 04:27:42 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 29, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Muslims Will Hate What Franklin Graham Just Said


Franklin Graham, the son of mega-evangelist Billy Graham, has been making waves in the news as of late.

Especially so because he's taking a hardline stance against Islam and Muslims who adhere to the core tenants of the violent religion.

And what he just said over the weekend might really get into some hot water. Both with Muslims as well as liberals.

After it was reported the shooter at the Marine Recruiting center in Chattanooga, TN was perpetrated to be a known Muslim, Graham decided to tell America what Obama won't...that we're under attack from Muslims.

Graham said we are "under attack by Muslims at home and abroad," and then reasoned the only way to help keep us safe here at home is to prevent Muslims from entering into the country.

Thus keeping the enemy at bay.

Graham wrote on his Facebook page this is a reasonable action to take, especially considering how violent Muslims are getting and how determined they are to attack our way of life.

Screen Shot 2015-07-20 at 10.12.30 AM

As you can plainly see, Graham points out  Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez,  is a "radical Muslim whose family was allowed to immigrate to this country from Kuwait."

And he says if this man and his family had been prevented from moving here in the first place it would have done a lot of good to help keep Americans safe.

As he noted:

"We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled...Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad."

Harkening back to how we kept our country safe during World War 2, by preventing the immigration of both Japanese and Germans, he asks why we don't do the same now.

Graham is spot on in his assessment.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/featured/muslims-will-hate-what-franklin-graham-just-said/

What part of "kill all the infidels" do liberals not understand? They are supposedly the smartest people on earth so they should have little trouble understanding if they are not a Muslim they are an infidel. I, like many, am outraged about all the moderate Muslims we hear about that remain silent. We are in a war. Until Muslims show me they are allied with sanity they are the enemy in my book.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on July 30, 2015, 04:45:15 AM
I agree, sup.   

Franklin is such a godly role model for all believers.  I have great admiration for his courage and commitment to truth.   Unlike his Dad, Franklin will not patronize the weak politicians.  He is willing to draw a line in the sand like Daniel in the OT.  We need more Christian leadership like this.

There is great power of light amidst the darkness.  Each and every voice is important today.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2015, 06:17:40 AM
Finally. someone yelled at the naked Emperor, "Put On Some Damned Clothes, You Freak!" :thumbup:
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on July 30, 2015, 07:04:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2015, 06:17:40 AM
Finally. someone yelled at the naked Emperor, "Put On Some Damned Clothes, You Freak!" :thumbup:

I might word it a bit differently.....

Get off the stage you instrument of Satan!!! 
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: quiller on July 30, 2015, 07:14:21 AM
Quote"We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled...Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad."

Amen, padre, amen!
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: daidalos on July 30, 2015, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 29, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Muslims Will Hate What Franklin Graham Just Said


Franklin Graham, the son of mega-evangelist Billy Graham, has been making waves in the news as of late.

Especially so because he's taking a hardline stance against Islam and Muslims who adhere to the core tenants of the violent religion.

And what he just said over the weekend might really get into some hot water. Both with Muslims as well as liberals.

After it was reported the shooter at the Marine Recruiting center in Chattanooga, TN was perpetrated to be a known Muslim, Graham decided to tell America what Obama won't...that we're under attack from Muslims.

Graham said we are "under attack by Muslims at home and abroad," and then reasoned the only way to help keep us safe here at home is to prevent Muslims from entering into the country.

Thus keeping the enemy at bay.

Graham wrote on his Facebook page this is a reasonable action to take, especially considering how violent Muslims are getting and how determined they are to attack our way of life.

Screen Shot 2015-07-20 at 10.12.30 AM

As you can plainly see, Graham points out  Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez,  is a "radical Muslim whose family was allowed to immigrate to this country from Kuwait."

And he says if this man and his family had been prevented from moving here in the first place it would have done a lot of good to help keep Americans safe.

As he noted:

"We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled...Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad."

Harkening back to how we kept our country safe during World War 2, by preventing the immigration of both Japanese and Germans, he asks why we don't do the same now.

Graham is spot on in his assessment.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/featured/muslims-will-hate-what-franklin-graham-just-said/
We also illegally and unconstitutionally interred in concentration camps anyone we even suspected of being Japanese or German. Should we do that now too? And furthermore if he's going to piss the moohamheadians off, why doesn't he stand up, and tell the whole truth about them. He knows as any Christian who's ever read the Bible knows, they do NOT worship the same God, they do not follow the teachings of a true prophet of God. They follow a false prophet, in service to a false god. (Note the period)
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on July 30, 2015, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: daidalos on July 30, 2015, 02:18:39 PM
We also illegally and unconstitutionally interred in concentration camps anyone we even suspected of being Japanese or German. Should we do that now too? And furthermore if he's going to piss the moohamheadians off, why doesn't he stand up, and tell the whole truth about them. He knows as any Christian who's ever read the Bible knows, they do NOT worship the same God, they do not follow the teachings of a true prophet of God. They follow a false prophet, in service to a false god. (Note the period)

I don't fault Franklin for not making a total diatribe about Islam.  Franklin is doing this right.  As the situations occur he will address the evil and errant aspects of Islam.  But it is pointless to spill the whole bucket of facts at one sitting.  He must FIRST get people's attention and respect for the truth.  People simply cannot ingest too much at one sitting.

Franklin is on the right track!
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: je_freedom on July 31, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
daidalos said:
QuoteWe also illegally and unconstitutionally interred in concentration camps anyone we even suspected of being Japanese or German.

That is true of the Japanese immigrants, but there were far too many people of German ancestry for that to be possible.

One son of German immigrants, Joe Desch, designed the machine that broke the Germans' Enigma code.  (This is true, in spite of the politically correct movie about Alan Turing, who was trying to accomplish the same task in England.)  The whole story is pretty interesting.  You can find it at:  daytoncodebreakers.org


Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 31, 2015, 11:16:32 PM
This is what the government should be doing not Franklin Graham.  I agree that Muslims are bringing their extremist religion to the United State but it is up to the government to acknowledge the threat and call it what it is.  It is up to Franklin Graham and all Christians to love their enemy.   Graham has many Christian missions in Countries which most assuredly have Islam and Sharia Law.  It is good to acknowledge that Islam is wrong but be careful not to alienate yourself from the people who you want to reach for the Lord.

One thing we should do immediately is stop funding the Universities that are a mouthpiece for hate America.  Stop Visa's from countries that support terrorism.  Seal the border.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 31, 2015, 11:18:45 PM
Oh I just realized what I wrote.  Obama is the mouthpiece for hate America.  Deport him.  It would be an amazing beginning.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: carlb on August 01, 2015, 03:08:36 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 31, 2015, 11:16:32 PM
This is what the government should be doing not Franklin Graham.  I agree that Muslims are bringing their extremist religion to the United State but it is up to the government to acknowledge the threat and call it what it is.  It is up to Franklin Graham and all Christians to love their enemy.   Graham has many Christian missions in Countries which most assuredly have Islam and Sharia Law.  It is good to acknowledge that Islam is wrong but be careful not to alienate yourself from the people who you want to reach for the Lord.

One thing we should do immediately is stop funding the Universities that are a mouthpiece for hate America.  Stop Visa's from countries that support terrorism.  Seal the border.

You can love them in their Muslim Lands. It's time to go back to the concept that nations are FAMILIES of related individuals sharing a common history, culture and language.
Inviting that crazy family down the block to move into your home is a recipe for disaster for your real family.


BTW, its not up to the GOVERNMENT to love this threat to the nation. The government's duty is to protect its citizens, not open the borders to every group that wants to colonize OUR country.

Ed. Note: portions of quote I'm not responding to, have been faded into the background.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on August 01, 2015, 05:45:14 AM

I raised my family in muslim nations and while residing there, I submitted to their customs and culture and government.  I did this without weakening my own Christian faith at all.  For years in Indonesia my family had a missionary outreach within the local detention center for cambodian boat people.  My husband baptized about 80 of those Cambodians before they were relocated to a remote island.

My household staff was made up of muslims... with the exception of my cook who converted to Christianity.  I held a women's bible class in my home which was attended by about 40 international women.   We had an open house every Friday night for Christians and we showed Christian movies from our video library of almost 600 films.  Those films and hundreds of books were available to the public in our lending library... which was heavily used by ALL nationalities of people.  Our home was open to Christian missionaries whenever they passed through our area.  When our children sat down at the dinner table at night there was frequently a missionary family dining with us.

I give this information to support the fact that you can practice your faith in a way which does not challenge the government of the nation where you reside.   Saudi Arabia was the strictest nation we experienced and we were not allowed to speak of our faith to any muslim there.  We could not display any Christmas decorations or symbols of any other Christian observance.  We had to blend in with the muslims in a nondescript manner.  I had to dress according to Sharia law...... covered from my neck to my ankles.  I could not drive outside of our small encampment.  But we still met together with other Christians to have a worship service in our camp theater building followed by bible study classes in the camp school.

We respected the local laws in all of our host nations.   Muslims do not want to do that when they are in western nations.  They want us to bow to their belief system.  Of course, that would be a disastrous thing for our government to do.  Give them an inch and they will take the entire nation.  Oh, what foolish men we have raised up to positions of power!!

Franklin Graham is correct to chastise our leaders!  They are suppose to protect our religious freedoms, not squander them.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 02, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 01, 2015, 03:08:36 AM
You can love them in their Muslim Lands. It's time to go back to the concept that nations are FAMILIES of related individuals sharing a common history, culture and language.
Inviting that crazy family down the block to move into your home is a recipe for disaster for your real family.


BTW, its not up to the GOVERNMENT to love this threat to the nation. The government's duty is to protect its citizens, not open the borders to every group that wants to colonize OUR country.

Ed. Note: portions of quote I'm not responding to, have been faded into the background.

Don't get me wrong Muslims do pose a threat to all of us.  We know that the Koran tells them to kill the unbelievers and they will.  Franklin Graham is right, absolutely right.  It is just that our government will not do anything.  Franklin Graham cannot stop them from using our colleges as a militant mouthpiece.  Franklin Graham cannot limit visa's from countries that support terrorism.  Franklin Graham cannot stop them from coming with the Hispanics over the border.  Franklin Graham can say honestly that Islam is a violent religion.  It is the truth, but our government would never say so.

So as a Christian his mission is to minister to Muslims and pray for them to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior.  Here, there in the Middle East, Africa and everywhere he has ministries.  I just don't know if this is helpful for the mission
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on August 03, 2015, 04:28:17 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 02, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
Don't get me wrong Muslims do pose a threat to all of us.  We know that the Koran tells them to kill the unbelievers and they will.  Franklin Graham is right, absolutely right.  It is just that our government will not do anything.  Franklin Graham cannot stop them from using our colleges as a militant mouthpiece.  Franklin Graham cannot limit visa's from countries that support terrorism.  Franklin Graham cannot stop them from coming with the Hispanics over the border.  Franklin Graham can say honestly that Islam is a violent religion.  It is the truth, but our government would never say so.

So as a Christian his mission is to minister to Muslims and pray for them to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior.  Here, there in the Middle East, Africa and everywhere he has ministries.  I just don't know if this is helpful for the mission

Franklin originally spoke out to Christian Pastors at a Pastor's Conference...... trying to educate them to the realities of Islam.  Unfortunately too many Pastors do not comprehend the true dangers of Islam.  Franklin wanted the Pastors to realize that their own government was not going to protect their religious liberty.... and that the muslims are NOT a peaceful religion as George W. Bush so famously said.   :rolleyes:

And Obama is actively protecting the Islamic faith around the world.... not wanting them to be harmed.  He is more concerned for muslims than Christians in the ME.

And now we have our own government doing crazy things like telling Pastors to cease and desist preaching against homosexuality........ as they did to Dr. John MacArthur.

It is time for Christians to wake up to the fact that persecution lies ahead and they need to prepare themselves mentally and spiritually for this.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 03, 2015, 04:28:17 AM
Franklin originally spoke out to Christian Pastors at a Pastor's Conference...... trying to educate them to the realities of Islam.  Unfortunately too many Pastors do not comprehend the true dangers of Islam.  Franklin wanted the Pastors to realize that their own government was not going to protect their religious liberty.... and that the muslims are NOT a peaceful religion as George W. Bush so famously said.   :rolleyes:

And Obama is actively protecting the Islamic faith around the world.... not wanting them to be harmed.  He is more concerned for muslims than Christians in the ME.

And now we have our own government doing crazy things like telling Pastors to cease and desist preaching against homosexuality........ as they did to Dr. John MacArthur.

It is time for Christians to wake up to the fact that persecution lies ahead and they need to prepare themselves mentally and spiritually for this.

Pastors should be aware of that.  They are beheading Christians all over the Middle East.  I don't know Kroz and its hard to imagine loving people so lost in the cult of Islam that they believe they should kill people.  What kind of a monster god is that?  I can't get the images that I saw on the internet out of my mind.  Even so Muslims are accepting the Lord in the Middle East and all I think we can do is pray.  Pray for salvation for Muslims.  Pray for the Christians in the Middle East and Africa.  Everywhere actually.  Pray for Godly leadership in the United State to combat the demonic influence of Islam.

It helps me to remember the focus and what we wrestle with.

Ephesians 6:12American Standard Version (ASV)

12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 09:05:51 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 09:17:21 PM
Pastors should be aware of that.  They are beheading Christians all over the Middle East.  I don't know Kroz and its hard to imagine loving people so lost in the cult of Islam that they believe they should kill people.  What kind of a monster god is that?  I can't get the images that I saw on the internet out of my mind.  Even so Muslims are accepting the Lord in the Middle East and all I think we can do is pray.  Pray for salvation for Muslims.  Pray for the Christians in the Middle East and Africa.  Everywhere actually.  Pray for Godly leadership in the United State to combat the demonic influence of Islam.

It helps me to remember the focus and what we wrestle with.

Ephesians 6:12American Standard Version (ASV)

12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

I appreciate your input on this subject, CD.    I did not mean to imply that we do not love people.... nor do I think Franklin implied that.  We can love people and still condemn their behaviors.

I personally believe that Christians at large (not you) tend toward burying all problems in the mantra of "love thy neighbor".  They refuse to open their eyes to the real ramifications of evil.

Franklin wants all Christians to wake up to the fact that the goal of Islam is evil.  Jihad is a mere instrument they use toward their goal.  WE are their "infidels" that deserve death.  I do not believe that the Bible teaches pacifism.

We need to realize that truth will not prevail if we sit back and do nothing.  We must actively engage the enemy.  God repeatedly sent His people into battle in the OT.  Our battle today is indeed spiritual as well as physical.  They are not mutually exclusive.  And of course, we PRAY without ceasing!

BTW, the fastest growing Christian Nation in the world today is Iran!

Muslims are searching for a better answer to their spiritual questions.  There are now 16% Christians in Iran!  That is a huge increase in Believers.

How do WE engage the enemy today?  We follow Franklin's example and boldly speak the truth in love.  We attempt to open the eyes of those who are blinded by the PC political rhetoric. 
Title: Re: Franklin Graham speaks truth
Post by: kroz on August 06, 2015, 09:00:57 AM
Franklin Graham speaks out again.....

Graham on Wednesday criticized Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., for having lost his "moral compass."

"Senator Harry Reid outrageously declared yesterday that Republicans had 'lost their moral compass' after they were unable to get the 60 votes needed to move the bill in Congress forward that would defund Planned Parenthood," he wrote on his Facebook page.

"You've got it backwards Senator Reid. You lost your moral compass years ago! You openly support abortion – the murder of babies in their mothers' wombs – and now by backing Planned Parenthood you obviously support the dismemberment and sale of baby body parts."

Graham's verdict?

"Shame on you and each one in Congress who did not support defunding Planned Parenthood. One day you will stand before God, and the blood of these innocent children will cry out for justice," he wrote.



Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/franklin-graham-shame-on-you-harry-reid/#2I3pwvPOA0VkAGv8.99