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Title: Cinema Sins
Post by: mdgiles on February 03, 2014, 07:29:05 AM
So i'm looking at Cinema Sins on You Tube, and one of their "sins" was that the Apple lap top could talk to the alien systems, so that was a major error. But everyone seems to have forgotten that the aliens were talking to our communication satellites. Now I pretty sure our comm satellites don't speak alien, which means either the aliens use a language our computers can understand  - lets say something along the lines of assembler - or they have a translation program running, and those programs have to run both ways so the object of the translation can affirm that instructions were received and understood. Does anyone think the aliens bother to turn off the program after they had blown every thing to crap? And the translation program must exist on the mother ship, since she is ordering the smaller ships around. And the aliens may have no concept of viruses since their civilization is telepathic, so the probably have fewer complete A-holes - and those fewer hackers.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2014, 09:18:10 AM
Is this a movie? I hadn't heard of it if so.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: quiller on February 03, 2014, 10:40:37 AM
Evidently he refers to this site's reviews about mistakes made in a film, but after searching 3 pages for a movie title, I'm stumped, unless he refers to Independence Day.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaSins (http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaSins)
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: mdgiles on July 03, 2014, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: quiller on February 03, 2014, 10:40:37 AM
Evidently he refers to this site's reviews about mistakes made in a film, but after searching 3 pages for a movie title, I'm stumped, unless he refers to Independence Day.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaSins (http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaSins)
You're correct it was "Independence Day", and the computer virus was one of the things always referred to as a plot hole.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: kit saginaw on January 06, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
Independence Day was loaded with flaws... 

The FA-18's braking-chute, which the craft never carried.  They use hooks or dorsal airbrakes.  Pullman, or the guy who plays the President fires a phalanx of missiles... then, a shot later, his jet has a full compliment of missiles.

The actors who're radio-designated Knight, 1, 2, 3, etc., begin randomly speaking via the wrong desig-numbers from minutes before.

The alien mothership hovers over the White House, yet tourists and motorists don't even notice. 

The Russian map was wrong.  And the Empire State Building is in the wrong location.  -And why would Russian TV-viewers need a map that said 'Russia' on it?  Wouldn't they know the shape of their own Country?

And whenever I see bottles and glasses, I know there'll be a screwup...  Sure enough, a guy slams a bottle of alcohol on a table during a heated confrontation, and liquid splashes out...  then he pours himself a drink from the bottle and has to unscrew a cap that mysteriously appeared.

Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: quiller on January 06, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 06, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
Independence Day was loaded with flaws... 

The FA-18's braking-chute, which the craft never carried.  They use hooks or dorsal airbrakes.  Pullman, or the guy who plays the President fires a phalanx of missiles... then, a shot later, his jet has a full compliment of missiles.

The actors who're radio-designated Knight, 1, 2, 3, etc., begin randomly speaking via the wrong desig-numbers from minutes before.

The alien mothership hovers over the White House, yet tourists and motorists don't even notice. 

The Russian map was wrong.  And the Empire State Building is in the wrong location.  -And why would Russian TV-viewers need a map that said 'Russia' on it?  Wouldn't they know the shape of their own Country?

And whenever I see bottles and glasses, I know there'll be a screwup...  Sure enough, a guy slams a bottle of alcohol on a table during a heated confrontation, and liquid splashes out...  then he pours himself a drink from the bottle and has to unscrew a cap that mysteriously appeared.
And for all the flaws you mention, it was possibly Randy Quaid's finest cinematic moment, with Pullman very close behind. (Far better than his role in Torchwood: Children of the Earth, wouldn't you agree?)

Come on, now! Admit it. When's the last time we heard a movie President actually give a speech worth hearing? Pullman delivers....

Independence Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA#ws)
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: kit saginaw on January 06, 2015, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: quiller on January 06, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
And for all the flaws you mention, it was possibly Randy Quaid's finest cinematic moment, with Pullman very close behind. (Far better than his role in Torchwood: Children of the Earth, wouldn't you agree?)

Come on, now! Admit it. When's the last time we heard a movie President actually give a speech worth hearing? Pullman delivers....

You're probably right about Pullman, but I can't remember him in anything I recall watching all the way through, if that makes any sense.

Imagine if obama's handlers backdropped his speeches with stirring orchestra-music like in the vid...  Anybody'd sound like Patton.

And Quaid (crooked-sheriff to the world) as the golfer in Dead Solid Perfect, is probably my fave.

I bought-into the trailers of Independence Day, then thought it was disappointingly average.  -Tried watching it again a few years ago.  Awful.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: taxed on January 07, 2015, 12:03:50 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on July 03, 2014, 10:48:00 AM
You're correct it was "Independence Day", and the computer virus was one of the things always referred to as a plot hole.

That completely killed it for me.  I was like, really?
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: mdgiles on March 16, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Quote from: taxed on January 07, 2015, 12:03:50 AM
That completely killed it for me.  I was like, really?
But you miss my point, Jeff Goldblum discovered they were using our communication satellites, which means they had to talk to them in a language they understood. That isn't the problem. The problem was, how was any plan supposed to work against a race that was shown in the movie to be telepathic!
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: taxed on May 17, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on March 16, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
But you miss my point, Jeff Goldblum discovered they were using our communication satellites, which means they had to talk to them in a language they understood. That isn't the problem. The problem was, how was any plan supposed to work against a race that was shown in the movie to be telepathic!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I always love the movies when we outsmart an alien race millions of years ahead of us who came here from thousands of light years away...
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: quiller on May 17, 2015, 04:13:31 AM
Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I always love the movies when we outsmart an alien race millions of years ahead of us who came here from thousands of light years away...

After the aliens buy Hollywood, that paradigm just might change....assuming they'll let us live to watch anything.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2015, 07:24:42 AM
Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I always love the movies when we outsmart an alien race millions of years ahead of us who came here from thousands of light years away...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol
The arrogance of liberalism. Never once living within the boundaries of reality.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: mdgiles on June 04, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I always love the movies when we outsmart an alien race millions of years ahead of us who came here from thousands of light years away...
Why come to Earth in the first place? Anything found on Earth, can also be found out in the Oort Cloud or the Kuiper Belt, with the added advantage of not having to deal with the Sun's gravity well. Babylon 5 did it much better, with the reason being the invasive species coming from "3rd Space" was simply so xenophobic, they felt they should be the only life form that existed anywhere. Same thing with the Berserkers, they simply want all other life eliminated.
Title: Re: Cinema Sins
Post by: taxed on June 04, 2015, 08:39:39 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on June 04, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Why come to Earth in the first place? Anything found on Earth, can also be found out in the Oort Cloud or the Kuiper Belt, with the added advantage of not having to deal with the Sun's gravity well. Babylon 5 did it much better, with the reason being the invasive species coming from "3rd Space" was simply so xenophobic, they felt they should be the only life form that existed anywhere. Same thing with the Berserkers, they simply want all other life eliminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYxGA8QaoC0