Is global warming and climate change actually happening?
If it is, is man a major contributing factor? If man is a major contributing factor is government regulation and government policies necessary to reduce our major impact significantly? If government regulation is necessary then what sort of regulations could be put in as to stay within the bounds of the constitution? If government regulation is not necessary then what are the things that we can do outside of government to reduce our major impact?
If man is not a contributing factor then do we as man still have something to worry about? If we do, should we as man attempt to try to influence the planet's nature as to slow down or prevent climate change and/or global warming? Or, do we take other steps if climate change is not possible to slow down or stop? What would be these other steps we all could take especially without government regulation?
Thoughts?
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Quote from: walkstall on April 20, 2019, 09:35:46 PM
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And, unbeknownst to these anthropological representations of man an unknown substance was in the ground and combined with the dna from the donkey's blood, dna from the bear's sweat and the fly's dna all four of these things mixed together. Sometime later after the bear leaves the donkey is zombified and bites a person. The zombie plague spreads like wildfire and both humans and the anthropological representations of man are susceptible to infection. As most of the population die and become zombified it is a man who organizes the last vestiges of man and non-man into a resistance. His name was Walkstall and he leads the resistance and slowly but surely they win the zombie war, reestablish civilization, myths and legends develop over 1000s of years and Walkstall slowly changes to "The Walks" and he is defified as a god who went into the fiery pits to slay the demons to free man from their yolk.
Just having fun :smile:
Quote from: alienhand on April 20, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
Is global warming and climate change actually happening?
If it is, is man a major contributing factor? If man is a major contributing factor is government regulation and government policies necessary to reduce our major impact significantly? If government regulation is necessary then what sort of regulations could be put in as to stay within the bounds of the constitution? If government regulation is not necessary then what are the things that we can do outside of government to reduce our major impact?
If man is not a contributing factor then do we as man still have something to worry about? If we do, should we as man attempt to try to influence the planet's nature as to slow down or prevent climate change and/or global warming? Or, do we take other steps if climate change is not possible to slow down or stop? What would be these other steps we all could take especially without government regulation?
Thoughts?
https://conservativehardliner.com/physics-professor-william-happer-were-carbon-drought?fbclid=IwAR0o9Ynu7QOLfqDK-5oQCQWDpCw0iuDaWdo6jXFnnbOMHrls2k465TYAAfI
If we could eliminate co2, we and the rest of the planet would be gone.
Quote from: alienhand on April 20, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
Is global warming and climate change actually happening?
If it is, is man a major contributing factor? If man is a major contributing factor is government regulation and government policies necessary to reduce our major impact significantly? If government regulation is necessary then what sort of regulations could be put in as to stay within the bounds of the constitution? If government regulation is not necessary then what are the things that we can do outside of government to reduce our major impact?
If man is not a contributing factor then do we as man still have something to worry about? If we do, should we as man attempt to try to influence the planet's nature as to slow down or prevent climate change and/or global warming? Or, do we take other steps if climate change is not possible to slow down or stop? What would be these other steps we all could take especially without government regulation?
Thoughts?
No. It's getting colder, and we're in a Co2 famine. https://conservativehardliner.com/physics-professor-william-happer-were-carbon-drought
Quote from: taxed on April 21, 2019, 05:00:32 AM
No. It's getting colder, and we're in a Co2 famine. https://conservativehardliner.com/physics-professor-william-happer-were-carbon-drought
And that barn ain't gettin any redder. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2019, 07:49:14 AM
And that barn ain't gettin any redder. :thumbsup:
Just think of the Earth without CO2 for 6 months, talk about a wasteland.
Quote from: walkstall on April 21, 2019, 08:00:05 AM
Just think of the Earth without CO2 for 6 months, talk about a wasteland.
If you haven't watched the video, the guy puts a bullet through the head of the lefts Boogieman.
I love climate change, I was looking forward to a bit of warming, but sadly, that isn't what's happening. I wish one of these morons would tell us what the optimal temp of the earth should be, they love change, until they aren't the ones in charge of change.
Maybe they need to write laws and ban the sun from regulating the temp on earth.:biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2019, 08:07:54 AM
If you haven't watched the video, the guy puts a bullet through the head of the lefts Boogieman.
I love climate change, I was looking forward to a bit of warming, but sadly, that isn't what's happening. I wish one of these morons would tell us what the optimal temp of the earth should be, they love change, until they aren't the ones in charge of change.
Maybe they need to write laws and ban the sun from regulating the temp on earth.:biggrin:
I will watch the vid when I get a chance.
Let's say the left's argument about climate change is true. My question is what do you and others think would be a better approach to take then gov't regulation and intervention and w/o violating the constitution?
QuoteIf you haven't watched the video
I have looked at it 4 times. Each time I get more and more out of it.
Quote from: alienhand on April 21, 2019, 08:26:24 AM
I will watch the vid when I get a chance.
Let's say the left's argument about climate change is true. My question is what do you and others think would be a better approach to take then gov't regulation and intervention and w/o violating the constitution?
It's not true, it was a Marxist plot to control energy, a way to destroy American production.
Look at what Obozo did to the energy mkt in 8 short years, he literally double the cost of electricity with his Green energy initiative.
He actually said at a press conference that under his plan "Energy prices will necessarily sky rocket", yes he admitted that, he also said get used to the new America, those jobs are never coming back.
See the connection?
I'm watching the vid! It's fascinating. Seems like a very intelligent, calm and even man.
Quote from: alienhand on April 21, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
I'm watching the vid! It's fascinating. Seems like a very intelligent, calm and even man.
Keep in mind, this all started in the 70s with global cooling and morphed into global warming, (Anthropological Warming), and now that all that failed, they claim "Climate Change", problem is, the climate always changes, that's why it's a living planet.
In other words, they have failed and now claim a natural occurrence is caused by man. :rolleyes:
Quote from: alienhand on April 21, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
I'm watching the vid! It's fascinating. Seems like a very intelligent, calm and even man.
Case in point!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-21/how-crazy-climate-alarmists-are-getting
Quote from: alienhand on April 20, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
Is global warming and climate change actually happening?
If it is, is man a major contributing factor? If man is a major contributing factor is government regulation and government policies necessary to reduce our major impact significantly? If government regulation is necessary then what sort of regulations could be put in as to stay within the bounds of the constitution? If government regulation is not necessary then what are the things that we can do outside of government to reduce our major impact?
If man is not a contributing factor then do we as man still have something to worry about? If we do, should we as man attempt to try to influence the planet's nature as to slow down or prevent climate change and/or global warming? Or, do we take other steps if climate change is not possible to slow down or stop? What would be these other steps we all could take especially without government regulation?
Thoughts?
You could come up with a bill that would give the liberals 90% of what they wanted on global warming, but if it lowered taxes I bet they would vote it down. Throughout my younger years I have paid as much attention to liberals as I did to unicorn farts, and then those liberals started going after $, which by then included MY $. I do believe there is no "project" too stupid that liberals can not rally around if it involves raising taxes. Global warming is just the next project, over rated and its sole purpose it to legally steal money.
Quote from: alienhand on April 20, 2019, 09:49:19 PM
And, unbeknownst to these anthropological representations of man an unknown substance was in the ground and combined with the dna from the donkey's blood, dna from the bear's sweat and the fly's dna all four of these things mixed together. Sometime later after the bear leaves the donkey is zombified and bites a person. The zombie plague spreads like wildfire and both humans and the anthropological representations of man are susceptible to infection. As most of the population die and become zombified it is a man who organizes the last vestiges of man and non-man into a resistance. His name was Walkstall and he leads the resistance and slowly but surely they win the zombie war, reestablish civilization, myths and legends develop over 1000s of years and Walkstall slowly changes to "The Walks" and he is defified as a god who went into the fiery pits to slay the demons to free man from their yolk.
Just having fun :smile:
LOL someone's been playing too much Fallout
Quote from: alienhand on April 21, 2019, 08:26:24 AM
I will watch the vid when I get a chance.
Let's say the left's argument about climate change is true. My question is what do you and others think would be a better approach to take then gov't regulation and intervention and w/o violating the constitution?
It would have to be a free market solution. So assume the lefts bogus climate change is 100% real, well for starters many on the right (who are free thinkers) wld see the facts and get on board as wld most of America. So if everyone accepted climate change then that would have a major effect on national supply and demand. People would first demand a bunch of real scientific studies into what would actually fix it. If it really is the use of fossil fuels (as our little fiction story goes) then the demand for fossil fuels wld dry up and the demand for 'clean' energy wld skyrocket. Money wld flood the market. All the scientists who are interested in money wld turn their efforts to climate change. All the entrepreneurs (who also love money) wld also put their efforts into creating products that help and dont hurt the environment. (U see some of this now as there is some demand for this from leftist fools who believe it). So in the end the brains and might of the American Market wld get behind the problem because consumers wld universally Demand it. But that's all based on the fiction that the left's climate change is real.
Quote from: T Hunt on April 21, 2019, 05:20:32 PM
It would have to be a free market solution. So assume the lefts bogus climate change is 100% real, well for starters many on the right (who are free thinkers) wld see the facts and get on board as wld most of America. So if everyone accepted climate change then that would have a major effect on national supply and demand. People would first demand a bunch of real scientific studies into what would actually fix it. If it really is the use of fossil fuels (as our little fiction story goes) then the demand for fossil fuels wld dry up and the demand for 'clean' energy wld skyrocket. Money wld flood the market. All the scientists who are interested in money wld turn their efforts to climate change. All the entrepreneurs (who also love money) wld also put their efforts into creating products that help and dont hurt the environment. (U see some of this now as there is some demand for this from leftist fools who believe it). So in the end the brains and might of the American Market wld get behind the problem because consumers wld universally Demand it. But that's all based on the fiction that the left's climate change is real.
This is an excellent answer. I'm sure some great minds would come up with some ingenious and cool stuff. Your answer is not only provides a solution but expounds upon what certain things mean and goes through steps as to how it would be accomplished. And, you've given me some insight as to how you and others on here think as well. In a nutshell, I can't just provide you guys just theories and what-ifs. And, definetly no emotional appeals as well. If I want to make a counter-argument to anything I have to
a. provide something that is concrete and tangible that would provide evidence for the counter-argument.
b. Don't use yourself and your own personal experiences as examples.
c. Don't go into what ifs, speculations and abstract theories.
d. No emotional appeals.
These are some of the Dos and Don'ts