This was sent to me in an e-mail....Otis.
Congressional Freeze of Benefits - please read and send to everyone you know
They worked Only 111 of the year's 365 days.
So many members of Congress are retiring in hopes of "locking-in" their future retirement payments. Currently, their monthly retirement checks are equal to their monthly salaries. They hope to freeze their retirement as it stands. I'm with Trump on this one. Trump is asking everyone to forward this Email to a minimum of 20 people and to ask each one of them to do likewise.
This makes too much sense not to be passed on. In 3 days , most people in the United States will have the message. This is why the idea should be passed around, regardless of Political Party.
The Trump Rule's Congressional Reform Act Of 2018:
1 – No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman / Woman, collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office. No more perks go with them.
2 – Congressman / Woman (past, present & future) participate in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional Retirement Fund move to the Social Security System immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security System, and Congress participates with the American People. It may not be used for any other purposes.
3 – Congress must purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4 – Congress will no longer vote themselves pay increases. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%
5 – Congress's current Healthcare System is terminated, and they participate in the same Healthcare System as the American people.
6 – Congress must abide by all the laws they impose on the American people
7 – All contracts with past and present Congressman / Woman are void. The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen / Women.
The Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators serving their terms, then going home and back to work, and not get all kinds of freebies!
No wonder THEY'RE FIGHTING THIS TOOTH AND NAIL!
The plan is for each person to contact a minimum of 20 people. If that happens. it will only take 3 days for most people in the United States to receive this message.
It's time for us to take action now! Please send this on
I see that is an e-mail, I would like to see a link backing that up. If not the Left will eat us alive if posted.
Quote from: walkstall on May 09, 2020, 06:14:43 PM
I see that is an e-mail, I would like to see a link backing that up. If not the Left will eat us alive if posted.
Yep, I want to know who is sponsoring the movement.
Quote from: Solar on May 09, 2020, 06:21:04 PM
Yep, I want to know who is sponsoring the movement.
Or who even said it!
WE need to support it. Write your congressman and your worthless democrat senators.
I've said before...they shouldn't be paid for being rep or senator. That is an honor. They should keep their day job. This would also cut down on the amount of time they spent in DC too. The rats.
Quote from: walkstall on May 09, 2020, 06:30:42 PM
Or who even said it!
I did a search and everyone has the same post.
https://opinionsarefree.wordpress.com/2019/09/28/they-worked-111-days-of-the-last-365/
Quote from: Solar on May 09, 2020, 06:52:43 PM
I did a search and everyone has the same post.
https://opinionsarefree.wordpress.com/2019/09/28/they-worked-111-days-of-the-last-365/
Then it's just hearsay. :popcorn:
I don't do chain letters... Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on May 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
I don't do chain letters... Toy
well really posting it at sites probably hits more than 20 people. So..mission accomplished.
Do you visit any other sites? I do. I"ll post it there too.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 09, 2020, 08:36:01 PM
well really posting it at sites probably hits more than 20 people. So..mission accomplished.
Do you visit any other sites? I do. I"ll post it there too.
Do you know for certain it;'s contents are factual? See, therein lies the problem with unsigned posts such as these, people tend to take them at face value and pass them along.
I can think of a far better way to spend my time than getting excited over an unclaimed, unsolicited emotional plea.
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:43:00 AM
Do you know for certain it;'s contents are factual? See, therein lies the problem with unsigned posts such as these, people tend to take them at face value and pass them along.
I can think of a far better way to spend my time than getting excited over an unclaimed, unsolicited emotional plea.
Efforts of this nature are a distraction from actually accomplishing something. Let's face it, no amount of petitions will ever get politicians to remove perks they have voted themselves. The solution is replacing them with true conservatives. Liberals like useless petitions as it makes them "feel" better.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 10, 2020, 05:55:27 AM
Efforts of this nature are a distraction from actually accomplishing something. Let's face it, no amount of petitions will ever get politicians to remove perks they have voted themselves. The solution is replacing them with true conservatives. Liberals like useless petitions as it makes them "feel" better.
That's the thing, we need actual Statesmen in office, people willing to Right the wrongs of those who came before them. Whether it's pay cuts or actually living and working within their district, real change comes when people vote these scum out.
Too many have come to view govt as important, it is not, people are important, Govt belongs to the people and the sooner people quit looking at these people like Hollywood stars, the sooner we can make actual change.
Sorry for venting, but every time I read about our founding, our Constitution, Bill of Rights, I see just how disconnected we have come from controlling our govt, and because of this, our Govt has gained the power to control us.
That should never have happened.
Is this one of them chain emails where if you send it to 20 friends you get a Rolex and if you don't you turn into a carved pumpkin on the steps of a Miami home to rot in the Florida sun.
I sure hope Conservative Political Forum (CPF) stays fact base with links to back it up or websites. You guys worked so hard to keep quality over quantity. CPF always has the best of the best rather than a lot of cheap knock offs. That's why folks like, what's his screen name, mican5 never come back responds to any post.
Quote from: Bronx on May 10, 2020, 07:11:51 AM
Is this one of them chain emails where if you send it to 20 friends you get a Rolex and if you don't you turn into a carved pumpkin on the steps of a Miami home to rot in the Florida sun.
I sure hope Conservative Political Forum (CPF) stays fact base with links to back it up or websites. You guys worked so hard to keep quality over quantity. CPF always has the best of the best rather than a lot of cheap knock offs. That's why folks like, what's his screen name, mican5 never come back responds to any post.
This is why we never delete posts, we know the members will set things Right. :cool:
Salaries of Members of Congress: Recent Actions and Historical Tables
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-1011.pdf (https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-1011.pdf)
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 10, 2020, 09:50:53 AM
Salaries of Members of Congress: Recent Actions and Historical Tables
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-1011.pdf (https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-1011.pdf)
Seriously, do you expect us to do your homework for you? If you have something to show us, don't just post a link, that's just lazy.
Trump's budget request slashes retirement benefits for 2 million federal workers
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/12/18261739/trump-budget-2019-federal-workers (https://www.vox.com/2019/3/12/18261739/trump-budget-2019-federal-workers)
White House Revives Controversial Retirement Cut Proposals
https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2020/02/white-house-revives-controversial-retirement-cut-proposals/163015/ (https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2020/02/white-house-revives-controversial-retirement-cut-proposals/163015/)
Federal Retirement Benefits on the Chopping Block
https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/02/19/federal-retirement-benefits-chopping-block/ (https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/02/19/federal-retirement-benefits-chopping-block/)
Budget Again Proposes to Hike FERS Contributions, Axe Supplement
https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/budget-again-proposes-to-hike-fers-contributions-axe-supplement/ (https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/budget-again-proposes-to-hike-fers-contributions-axe-supplement/)
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 10, 2020, 10:41:19 AM
Trump's budget request slashes retirement benefits for 2 million federal workers
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/12/18261739/trump-budget-2019-federal-workers (https://www.vox.com/2019/3/12/18261739/trump-budget-2019-federal-workers)
White House Revives Controversial Retirement Cut Proposals
https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2020/02/white-house-revives-controversial-retirement-cut-proposals/163015/ (https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2020/02/white-house-revives-controversial-retirement-cut-proposals/163015/)
Federal Retirement Benefits on the Chopping Block
https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/02/19/federal-retirement-benefits-chopping-block/ (https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/02/19/federal-retirement-benefits-chopping-block/)
Budget Again Proposes to Hike FERS Contributions, Axe Supplement
https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/budget-again-proposes-to-hike-fers-contributions-axe-supplement/ (https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/budget-again-proposes-to-hike-fers-contributions-axe-supplement/)
Again, if there is something in there you want us to know, then post it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to open any one of those and search out your point.
One of the issues raised in your chain post was time worked. How about you start there?
Quote from: Solars Toy on May 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
I don't do chain letters... Toy
Do you contact your representatives? Even if there isn't anything out there promoting this officially....we need to do what we can to get something started in that direction if possible.
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 10, 2020, 11:39:14 AM
Do you contact your representatives? Even if there isn't anything out there promoting this officially....we need to do what we can to get something started in that direction if possible.
Yes I do email my Representatives on occasion.. But I live in a blue State and I know it falls on deaf ears.
On another note I did recently contact my local BOS (repeatedly) regarding an issue and there is a solution being put in place. Toy
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 10:18:36 AM
Seriously, do you expect us to do your homework for you? If you have something to show us, don't just post a link, that's just lazy.
If I posted a link, OBVIOUSLY, I've already done the homework. HOW is that just lazy? Wth is it with you people...you sound like snowflakes with some of the crap you jump all over. I'm beginning to see why a site that's been around as long as this one doesn't have more regularly members...
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 10:50:54 AM
Again, if there is something in there you want us to know, then post it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to open any one of those and search out your point.
One of the issues raised in your chain post was time worked. How about you start there?
Then DON'T open it. It's not my problem if you don't want to learn something new...
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 10, 2020, 05:55:27 AM
Efforts of this nature are a distraction from actually accomplishing something. Let's face it, no amount of petitions will ever get politicians to remove perks they have voted themselves. The solution is replacing them with true conservatives. Liberals like useless petitions as it makes them "feel" better.
first step is putting the info out there. Make people aware and get them thinking.
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 10:18:36 AM
Seriously, do you expect us to do your homework for you? If you have something to show us, don't just post a link, that's just lazy.
I'm going to have to defend Mercy on this. You tell us to post links and then you say don't just post a link. She's done the homework. All one has to do is to look at the link.
This is inconsistent or someone is having a bad day. hmmm?
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 08:49:18 AM
I'm going to have to defend Mercy on this. You tell us to post links and then you say don't just post a link. She's done the homework. All one has to do is to look at the link.
This is inconsistent or someone is having a bad day. hmmm?
She posted 4 links. Big deal, she actually expected me to read a bunch of blind links and search out her point?
If you have actual evidence supporting your point, it is incumbent upon you to provide the quote, And The Link! All she did was google and copy and paste a bunch of crap!
One of which was a leftist site.
Quote from: Solar on May 11, 2020, 09:25:29 AM
She posted 4 links. Big deal, she actually expected me to read a bunch of blind links and search out her point?
If you have actual evidence supporting your point, it is incumbent upon you to provide the quote, And The Link! All she did was google and copy and paste a bunch of crap!
One of which was a leftist site.
Sometimes y'all continue to prove some of your own ignorance. It's imperative to keep abreast of what's going on with the OTHER side too in order to PREPARE. It's not INCUMBENT on me to do anything besides read the article and share it if I believe someone else would be interested in seeing it. I can't believe how you whine like a little snowflake. By the time you typed all this, you probably could have already read the article. That's PATHETIC!
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 11:17:00 AM
Sometimes y'all continue to prove some of your own ignorance. It's imperative to keep abreast of what's going on with the OTHER side too in order to PREPARE. It's not INCUMBENT on me to do anything besides read the article and share it if I believe someone else would be interested in seeing it. I can't believe how you whine like a little snowflake. By the time you typed all this, you probably could have already read the article. That's PATHETIC!
Which is why it is incumbent upon you to save us the headache of trying to figure out your point.
Like I said, there are 4 links, quote the pertinent parts that back your claims, otherwise you lose the argument.
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 11:17:00 AM
Sometimes y'all continue to prove some of your own ignorance. It's imperative to keep abreast of what's going on with the OTHER side too in order to PREPARE. It's not INCUMBENT on me to do anything besides read the article and share it if I believe someone else would be interested in seeing it. I can't believe how you whine like a little snowflake. By the time you typed all this, you probably could have already read the article. That's PATHETIC!
I have been following this thread and here is the bottom line. There are plenty of forums available. Most, if not all, here came from other forums. Each forums has its own norms. Here, it is the expected practice that if one posts a link on this forum it is to backup a comment. If posters do not like and desire not to follow these expectations they are free to find another forum that is better suited to their style.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 08:48:15 AM
first step is putting the info out there. Make people aware and get them thinking.
I agree.
Let's find out the actual information so we can be accurate, as well as use lefty information against lefties.
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 11:17:00 AM
Sometimes y'all continue to prove some of your own ignorance. It's imperative to keep abreast of what's going on with the OTHER side too in order to PREPARE. It's not INCUMBENT on me to do anything besides read the article and share it if I believe someone else would be interested in seeing it. I can't believe how you whine like a little snowflake. By the time you typed all this, you probably could have already read the article. That's PATHETIC!
The point of a discussion forum is to have discussion, duh. When you posted an article it is assumed you read it. Let us know your opinion on it before we read it. We do not know you yet, as we get to know you we will probably know some of your thoughts on different subjects. But jeez don't get in an up roar just because there are rules to follow.