Someone has to stick up for the rich man.  Big smooches to Neil...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/%E2%80%98patriotic-millionaires%E2%80%99-call-for-end-to-bush-tax-cuts/

  Neil has never had a bad word to say about anything but unions and workers...hes full of shit...he is totally biased and one sided

Quote from: zip on November 23, 2010, 04:58:49 AM
  Neil has never had a bad word to say about anything but unions and workers...hes full of shit...he is totally biased and one sided

Damn zip, you should change your name to "Hoffa" or "Gompers" or something.  So do you know where Hoffa's carcass is buried?   ;D ;)

When the first "permanent" income tax was enacted, not all that long ago in 1913, the top marginal rate was 7%. Almost everyone who paid the income tax at all got the lowest rate -- 1%. And the federal government sailed along quite nicely on a financial diet that consumed less than 4% of GDP.

My, how things change.

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 23, 2010, 06:06:05 AM
Damn zip, you should change your name to "Hoffa" or "Gompers" or something.  So do you know where Hoffa's carcass is buried?   ;D ;)

   
   Whats wrong AF if someone disagrees with you on a subject theyre what a liberal no good a gangsta ?
Im tired of hearing me my family and every one else that works is no good...screw  cavuto the soft ass pig never had a bad day in his life...he whines incessantly about the evil union workers and workers who make so m uch the poor rich cant create any jobs the poor poor rich dont have <snivel>  any money to invest <sniff> fuck that im as tired of hearing that crap as I am hearing homos need to get married and your a racist if you dont like obama and your a right wingnut if you own a gun and dont believe in socialism...Im not a socialist I dont believe in socialism..but im tired of this fricken incessant lieing from the rich about how bad they have it and how workers and unions are screwing them..because its a Fin lie...the rich got richer in the last 10 yrs and workers lost ground....now if believing that makes any of you believe im  a lib..fine put me on your enemy list i can handle ya

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 23, 2010, 06:06:05 AM
Damn zip, you should change your name to "Hoffa" or "Gompers" or something.  So do you know where Hoffa's carcass is buried?   ;D ;)

Hoffa (the Teamsters) was not 'buried', his body disappeared. Probably ground up and incinerated or fish food in Lake Erie.

When the mob kills you, they send a message. Jimmy made a lot of mob money "disappear" with all the skimming he did while laundering their cash
via the "pension fund".

Try as I might I can't think of a good thing to say about any Union.


Billy

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 23, 2010, 04:23:19 PM

Hoffa (the Teamsters) was not 'buried', his body disappeared. Probably ground up and incinerated or fish food in Lake Erie.

When the mob kills you, they send a message. Jimmy made a lot of mob money "disappear" with all the skimming he did while laundering their cash
via the "pension fund".

Try as I might I can't think of a good thing to say about any Union.



Billy

Damn, I really thought about it Billy, and honestly, todays unions are worthless.
I couldn't think of one good thing they do.
Simply put, they are organized extortionists.

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2010, 04:58:47 PM
Damn, I really thought about it Billy, and honestly, todays unions are worthless.
I couldn't think of one good thing they do.
Simply put, they are organized extortionists.

My grandpa, an Irish immigrant, work in the  Pa coal mines, if you said the word "Union", they burned your house and beat you senseless. So unions were actually a good thing. My father, was a staunch union man, A sometime official
for a steelworkers local.

His brother was the head of the local at the time (1963/4?)when the teamsters decided to take it over. They couldn't do it unless they could influence or "buy the desenting element, which didn't happen, so they tried the other method, beat downs, intimidation, arson etc.

I recall my Dad, my uncle and others loading up their deer rifles, shotguns  and carrying tire irons around in their belts.

They refered to Hoffa as a "Hunky(Hungarian) Bastard working for the Dagos"(italians).

In the end the teamster left town...wisely.

In those days if you would have said the word, socialist or communist in the same breath as Union, you would have your head handed to you

Billy

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 23, 2010, 05:17:11 PM

My grandpa, an Irish immigrant, work in the  Pa coal mines, if you said the word "Union", they burned your house and beat you senseless. So unions were actually a good thing. My father, was a staunch union man, A sometime official
for a steelworkers local.

His brother was the head of the local at the time (1963/4?)when the teamsters decided to take it over. They couldn't do it unless they could influence or "buy the desenting element, which didn't happen, so they tried the other method, beat downs, intimidation, arson etc.

I recall my Dad, my uncle and others loading up their deer rifles, shotguns  and carrying tire irons around in their belts.

They refered to Hoffa as a "Hunky(Hungarian) Bastard working for the Dagos"(italians).

In the end the teamster left town...wisely.

In those days if you would have said the word, socialist or communist in the same breath as Union, you would have your head handed to you

Billy

Today, the union is synonymous with communist.
Think www.cpusa.org

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 23, 2010, 05:17:11 PM

My grandpa, an Irish immigrant, work in the  Pa coal mines, if you said the word "Union", they burned your house and beat you senseless. So unions were actually a good thing. My father, was a staunch union man, A sometime official
for a steelworkers local.

His brother was the head of the local at the time (1963/4?)when the teamsters decided to take it over. They couldn't do it unless they could influence or "buy the desenting element, which didn't happen, so they tried the other method, beat downs, intimidation, arson etc.

I recall my Dad, my uncle and others loading up their deer rifles, shotguns  and carrying tire irons around in their belts.

They refered to Hoffa as a "Hunky(Hungarian) Bastard working for the Dagos"(italians).

In the end the teamster left town...wisely.

In those days if you would have said the word, socialist or communist in the same breath as Union, you would have your head handed to you

Billy

I've been in two unions, the Pressmen and the UAW, and as far as I'm concerned unions have never strayed too far from their foundation which is violence.

Whether it's a tire iron or a lobbyist, unions are always about getting what you don't deserve but have the power to wrench from those who don't have the power to resist. Unions may be an inevitability given human nature and circumstances but the end of the union era can't come fast enough to suit me.

Friend of mine is a retired pipefitter, worked 30 years in the union, says they are the most crooked bunch of theives in the world, he has a load of horror stories. He says nowadays they openly rip off and take advanatge of the immigrants. Shameful.

Billy

Quote from: tbone0106 on November 23, 2010, 11:19:54 AM
When the first "permanent" income tax was enacted, not all that long ago in 1913, the top marginal rate was 7%. Almost everyone who paid the income tax at all got the lowest rate -- 1%. And the federal government sailed along quite nicely on a financial diet that consumed less than 4% of GDP.

My, how things change.

So true.

What are your thoughts on a NRST?  I am a huge FairTax proponent....

Quote from: taxed on November 23, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
So true.

What are your thoughts on a NRST?  I am a huge FairTax proponent....

The Fair Tax is THE way to go! I own the book, have read the book, and can't figure out where all the Fair Tax supporters are!

Of course, you have to understand that the Fair Tax will probably never get through Congress in its current incarnation. Some changes will have to take place...

Wow. How did you know? Will you marry me?

Quote from: tbone0106 on November 23, 2010, 07:50:54 PM
The Fair Tax is THE way to go! I own the book, have read the book, and can't figure out where all the Fair Tax supporters are!

Of course, you have to understand that the Fair Tax will probably never get through Congress in its current incarnation. Some changes will have to take place...

Wow. How did you know? Will you marry me?

hahaha, sweet.  It is totally the way to go.  I truly believe we won't really get our freedom back until we change the tax system.  A kid is never free while the bully can keep taking his lunch money at will.