Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 29, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
Here's my list.

Underpaid:

Soldiers
Scientists
Teachers
Nurses
Firefighters

Overpaid:

Sports athletes
Movie stars
High profile entertainers
Socialites
Reality TV stars
[some] businessmen
CEOs
Bankers
Management consultants
High-end TV anchors
High-end real estate agents
Lawyers
Public school administrators

Please don't feel offended if your profession is in the latter list; I'm stating gross generalizations, of course.

The only one you got right was public school administrators...

Quote from: taxed on July 31, 2012, 10:28:50 AM

The only one you got right was public school administrators...

Yep, the only ones sucking taxpayer dollars.

No such thing as "underpaid" or "overpaid."

You get what you get. If you're not happy with what you're getting, change your profession. No one should whine and complain about their pay. Don't you know what salary range you'll get when you go into a job?

Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2012, 06:42:56 AM
Apparently you are of a very small minority that views sports as somehow detri-mental, most see it as a healthy distraction from their lives and some even see it as a bonding tool within the family unit.

Once again, you demonstrate a complete failure to exercise basic reading comprehension skills; you seem to think that sport worship being a detriment to society means that sports shouldn't exist, period.

Quote from: Jasmine on July 31, 2012, 01:54:11 PM
No such thing as "underpaid" or "overpaid."

You get what you get. If you're not happy with what you're getting, change your profession. No one should whine and complain about their pay. Don't you know what salary range you'll get when you go into a job?

It's not that simple.  Certain very important professions (scientists, doctors, etc) being underpaid means less interest in these very crucial fields, and overcompensation on comparatively less useful fields means an excess of people choosing those careers.  As you can see, this stunts progress; it does not merely create an excuse for us to whine.

It's very simple, actually.  I shouldn't have to point out how ridiculous it is to declare that life is completely fair, and all professions are paid exactly what they are worth.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
It's not that simple.  Certain very important professions (scientists, doctors, etc) being underpaid means less interest in these very crucial fields, and overcompensation on comparatively less useful fields means an excess of people choosing those careers.  As you can see, this stunts progress; it does not merely create an excuse for us to whine.

It's very simple, actually.  I shouldn't have to point out how ridiculous it is to declare that life is completely fair, and all professions are paid exactly what they are worth.

Again, the market pays what you're worth. Stop whining about it. Top professional athletes and entertainers make millions of dollars for their teams, cities and companies. People pay money to watch them. No one wants to pay money to see some science geek looking at test tubes or some teacher boring students to death with lectures.

The market decides what professions are worth the most money, not crybabies who fall apart because the world is so unfair.

Quote from: Jasmine on July 31, 2012, 02:10:44 PM
Again, the market pays what you're worth. Stop whining about it.

Worth by what criteria?

QuoteTop professional athletes and entertainers make millions of dollars for their teams, cities and companies. People pay money to watch them. No one wants to pay money to see some science geek looking at test tubes or some teacher boring students to death with lectures.

What the fuck is your problem?  Are you under the impression that the cure for polio and smallpox were less important than Tom Brady's record tying 99 yard touchdown pass?

"some science geek" is precisely my point - you don't respect the people that actually save lives.  Those are not professional athletes and bankers.

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The market decides what professions are worth the most money, not crybabies who fall apart because the world is so unfair.

You haven't provided a single argument to actually support why the omnipotent free market is the ultimate moral arbiter, other than appealing to itself.

After all, Obama won the election, and Mccain didn't.  Obama makes a hell of a lot more in a year than you ever will.  So by your own logic, you should stop whining about it, and deal with it.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Worth by what criteria?

Society's, apparently. People vote with their dollars.

QuoteWhat the fuck is your problem?  Are you under the impression that the cure for polio and smallpox were less important than Tom Brady's record tying 99 yard touchdown pass?

No. I hate Tom Brady.

Quote"some science geek" is precisely my point - you don't respect the people that actually save lives.  Those are not professional athletes and bankers.

Maybe you should spend the rest of your life watching "Revenge of the Nerds." That'll keep you happy.


You haven't provided a single argument to actually support why the omnipotent free market is the ultimate moral arbiter, other than appealing to itself.

After all, Obama won the election, and Mccain didn't.  Obama makes a hell of a lot more in a year than you ever will.  So by your own logic, you should stop whining about it, and deal with it.
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Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Obama makes a hell of a lot more in a year than you ever will.  So by your own logic, you should stop whining about it, and deal with it.

Do you see me whining about how much the Socialist Monkey gets paid? No, you don't. You know why? Because I don't envy or hate wealthy people.

Isn't it funny how a 12th man on an NBA team makes more money than the Socialist Monkey?

Quote from: Jasmine on July 31, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Maybe you should spend the rest of your life watching "Revenge of the Nerds." That'll keep you happy.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands saved by the polio vaccine.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Tell that to the hundreds of thousands saved by the polio vaccine.

*SnIcKeR* MARCO...

POLIO!

MARCO!

POLIO!

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 29, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
Here's my list.

Underpaid:

Soldiers
Scientists
Teachers
Nurses
Firefighters

Overpaid:

Sports athletes
Movie stars
High profile entertainers
Socialites
Reality TV stars
[some] businessmen
CEOs
Bankers
Management consultants
High-end TV anchors
High-end real estate agents
Lawyers
Public school administrators

Please don't feel offended if your profession is in the latter list; I'm stating gross generalizations, of course.

Until We decide to grow that list will stay backwards. 


You can make money hand over fist by selling the public cheap goods for inflated prices, or You can try to save people while making crumbs in comparison.
I dont believe its really that we don't care about those who care for humanity enough to choose serving it as a profession, I think maybe we just look for escapes from those types of tough realities. That's why the football player makes so much more than the cop, or the actor to the school teacher.  People don't want to think on harsh reality, we'd rather watch spider man remade for the 800th time instead. 

Curious, Sci-fi, how do You suggest we move from our current structure to the other?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Tell that to the hundreds of thousands saved by the polio vaccine.

Don't worry sci fi. Everything is going to be fine.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2012/July/Doctors-Threaten-to-Quit-over-Health-Care-Law/

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
Once again, you demonstrate a complete failure to exercise basic reading comprehension skills; you seem to think that sport worship being a detriment to society means that sports shouldn't exist, period.

Boy, when you lose a debate, you really run for left field, don't ya?

If this Marxist with training wheels had actually thought this through before posting he may have realized that each country in every state has a different economic climate and so what may be considered over or under payed in one region may or may not be so in another. And as far as athletes are concerned I have a feeling he has not researched how much ad revenue they bring to their respective teams and cities. And I doubt he has any sort of formula to work out what constitutes over or under payed.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 31, 2012, 03:49:10 PM
And as far as athletes are concerned I have a feeling he has not researched how much ad revenue they bring to their respective teams and cities.

Not only that, but crybaby fails to understand that pro athletes are the absolute BEST of the BEST. Out of tens of thousands of people who play basketball, for example, only 450 get to play in the NBA at any given time. They are the cream of the crop, and people are willing to pay good money to watch them display their skills. There are probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of teachers, doctors, firemen, etc. They do valuable work, sure, but they aren't special.