Quote from: Dan on February 07, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
To me it all started going downhill when John Marshall expanded the role of the Supreme Court beyond it's original design.

Amen, Brother. Amen, indeed!

Quote from: Dan on February 07, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
To me it all started going downhill when John Marshall expanded the role of the Supreme Court beyond it's original design.

Now Dan, you have to tell him who John Marshall was.   :))

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
One one thing have I learned.  That the real value of fora like this is to give conservatards a place to vent and inbreed, which keeps them off the streets and from mucking up anything worthwhile.   One thing that is amazing is that all of them are allegedly self employed, private sector, government hating, job creating entrepreneurs that seem to have unlimited time to post.  One guy, on another forum, has averaged 38 a day for almost 6½ years.  Another thing that is amazing is that many of them also earned or still earn their living off the gummint which, unless you're in the military or law enforcement (according to one very active member) makes them parasites.

Another thing I have learned is there is nothing as thin skinned as a conservatard.

You lost credibility when you came here claiming Conservative status.
Everything since then comes off as nothing more than a non-truth.

Couple of points. I've never felt the urge to go on any Liberal site. I know what they believe, and I'm familiar with what they will likely say, on  any given political subject. On the other hand, I have yet to see any conservative site that doesn't have a few liberals show up, usually to insult everyone else. It seems to mimic their world view. Their inability to simply leave others alone. To not tell others what to do. 

On the subject of income taxes, I once read a SciFi story, in which the individual taxpayer was allowed to denote how his/her tax dollars would be spent. Example, on a tax bill of $2,000, you could order $1000 for Defense,to be spent in any manner the DoD felt. Meanwhile you could send  $500 to Interior, with $100 allocated for the Park Service, $100 for the Geological Survey, $100 for Fish and Wildlife, $100 for Bureau of Reclamation and $100 for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. And so on, and so on, until you exhausted your taxes paid. I think people are quite capable of deciding what their tax dollars should be spent on.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
The only way to steal is by force. But taxation is not stealing, is it?  If it is, why would only taxing income be stealing?  Why is taxing income any more immoral than taxing real estate?  Or a sales transaction?  Or an imported product?  Or cigarettes?  Or whiskey?

Idiot. Stop paying your federal income tax for just one year. Just don't pay it at all. Let's see how long it takes you to see a man with a badge and a gun.

Quote from: tbone0106 on February 07, 2012, 09:38:25 PM

Idiot. Stop paying your federal income tax for just one year. Just don't pay it at all. Let's see how long it takes you to see a man with a badge and a gun.

Idiot.  You're making my point for me. 

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
I bet you're an uplifting fellow with whom to hang out. 

I'll have you wishing your head would explode, from all the hard truth I'd lay on you about Muslim Maggot and his wife, She-Devil of the Kansas-Ass.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:10:17 PM
Not a chance. 

Yes, Elmer, as a good liberal you must plug your ears lest you hear ANYTHING negative about Maggot and his rat bastard commie scumbag desecration of our Constitution. That's the document your worthless skank Bader Ginsburg doesn't think much of as she sits on our Supreme Court. The same document Hussein, Lord of the TelePrompter was supposedly teaching about in college, but can't obey once he took the oath of office pledging to honor and defend it.

Lying scum leftist filth are YOUR heroes, Elmer. Halfwits and parasites. Scum of the entire planet. Democrats, criminal baby-murdering, drug-sucking, treason-flinging menaces to society, one and all, good only for ensuring our guns are sighted-in, and for stacking as sandbags once that target practice is complete.

Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 07:19:57 AM
Yes, Elmer, as a good liberal you must plug your ears lest you hear ANYTHING negative about Maggot and his rat bastard commie scumbag desecration of our Constitution. That's the document your worthless skank Bader Ginsburg doesn't think much of as she sits on our Supreme Court. The same document Hussein, Lord of the TelePrompter was supposedly teaching about in college, but can't obey once he took the oath of office pledging to honor and defend it.

Lying scum leftist filth are YOUR heroes, Elmer. Halfwits and parasites. Scum of the entire planet. Democrats, criminal baby-murdering, drug-sucking, treason-flinging menaces to society, one and all, good only for ensuring our guns are sighted-in, and for stacking as sandbags once that target practice is complete.

And another brain dead, venom spewing conservatard weighs in with a "well thought out statment." 

Venom-spewing? Elmer, you should by now know that I have MODERATED my remarks about the single worst President in American history. The guy who spends millions every year on lawyers, to keep any court from ever seeing his original birth certificate. If he were in fact a legal American and therefore qualified to hold office, he would cheerfully supply that document --- and has not. Why is that, Elmer?

Nope, I'm not a "birther." I demand to see if it exists at all, just as much as what it says. Barry Soetoro has a lot of explaining to do on why he can't prove who he says he is.

As for baby-killing drug-sucking criminals, I thank you for not bothering to refute the obvious.

Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 10:56:08 AM
Venom-spewing? Elmer, you should by now know that I have MODERATED my remarks about the single worst President in American history. The guy who spends millions every year on lawyers, to keep any court from ever seeing his original birth certificate. If he were in fact a legal American and therefore qualified to hold office, he would cheerfully supply that document --- and has not. Why is that, Elmer?

Nope, I'm not a "birther." I demand to see if it exists at all, just as much as what it says. Barry Soetoro has a lot of explaining to do on why he can't prove who he says he is.

As for baby-killing drug-sucking criminals, I thank you for not bothering to refute the obvious.

Actually I don't follow your posts closely enough to know whether you've moderated or not.   Keep persevorating on stuff that has been settled to the satisfaction of reasonable, intelligent people.  It keeps you from mucking up anything worthwhile. 

I'll keep persevorating if you want me to, Bright Eyes, but you'll have to buy me flowers and a nice lunch at Bloomie's before we get to the banns and the dress-fittings, okaaaaaay?

The issue is not settled until the document is produced, examined, legitimated, and then actively discussed by competent authorities. Obama lawyers resist that to the tune of a couple of million bucks a year in legal fees and court filings.

Honest men would have produced theirs by now --- if one exists. If Obama's does not, then why is this undocumented child of at least one foreign-born parent now in our White House, in flagrant violation of standing U.S. Constitutional requirements for that job? Why can the left howl for "rights" to murder 50 million innocent unborn children, but ignore rights of about 300 million Americans to know if their leader is actually an American?

Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 03:36:48 PM
I'll keep persevorating if you want me to, Bright Eyes, but you'll have to buy me flowers and a nice lunch at Bloomie's before we get to the banns and the dress-fittings, okaaaaaay?

The issue is not settled until the document is produced, examined, legitimated, and then actively discussed by competent authorities. Obama lawyers resist that to the tune of a couple of million bucks a year in legal fees and court filings.

Honest men would have produced theirs by now --- if one exists. If Obama's does not, then why is this undocumented child of at least one foreign-born parent now in our White House, in flagrant violation of standing U.S. Constitutional requirements for that job? Why can the left howl for "rights" to murder 50 million innocent unborn children, but ignore rights of about 300 million Americans to know if their leader is actually an American?

Two words:  conservatard bullshit. Millions have not been spent, the document has been produced. Grow up. 

Please produce the link to the court which examined that document and ascertained under lawful means that it is legitimate.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Two words:  conservatard bullshit. Millions have not been spent, the document has been produced. Grow up.

Actually millions HAVE been spent and the document has NOT been produced. Unlike you, most of us have long since grown up, so you can't piss on our leg and tell us it's raining. As for what those documents actually say, I haven't got a clue and wouldn't even venture to guess. But the fact is, this is the guy with the keys to Armageddon, if the public wants to conduct a full proctological exam on the sum total of his prior life, we should be able to do so. NOTHING should be off limits or hidden. If he doesn't like it, he shouldn't have applied for the job.