GOP afraid to cut defense spending

Started by Just_the_facts_mamm, February 03, 2012, 11:00:42 AM

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Considering all the talk about the national debt, why is it so hard for the GOP to cut some defense spending?

I realize that the GOP kickbacks from the military industrial complex are substantial, but seriously, the country is in debt trouble and we need to make cuts.

We DO have the mightiest force on the planet already!
Surely they can handle a few billion in cuts.

QuoteA group of hawkish Senate Republicans announced their plan Thursday to prevent automatic defense cuts mandated by last summer's debt ceiling agreement, which are set to take effect in 2013.

Arizona Sen. John McCain (R), the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, led a group of Republicans in detailing their plan to prevent a planned $110 billion from the 2013 defense budget by offering other offsetting cuts.

"It's time for the president to lead and accept his responsibilities as commander-in-chief and work with us to enact a plan that will reduce our debt and maintain our military preparedness," McCain said at a press conference on Capitol Hill.

The automatic cuts were contained in last summer's agreement to raise the nation's debt limit. The automatic defense cuts were included as an incentive for Republican members of the supercommittee -- the bipartisan panel charged with identifying $1.2 trillion in savings from the budget over the next 10 years -- to reach an agreement.

"The defense portion of the sequester, in my view, would clearly hollow our military," Boehner said at his weekly press conference, "The question I would pose is where's the White House? Where's the leadership that should be there to ensure that this sequester does not go into effect?"
The hawks are spending us into the ground.
AND Boehner thinks it will HOLLOW out our military!

I find it amusing, the way the GOP makes a deal on the debt and then tries to wiggle out of it when it didn't go their way!
sad bunch.

This is one place Ron Paul is RIGHT, cut back on the military!

The GOP needs to get the priorities in order if you are even going to show in the election.
Cut Medicare and SS but beef up the military!
good plan for Obama to get elected! :))

Harry

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Considering all the talk about the national debt, why is it so hard for the GOP to cut some defense spending?

I realize that the GOP kickbacks from the military industrial complex are substantial, but seriously, the country is in debt trouble and we need to make cuts.

We DO have the mightiest force on the planet already!
Surely they can handle a few billion in cuts.
The hawks are spending us into the ground.
AND Boehner thinks it will HOLLOW out our military!

I find it amusing, the way the GOP makes a deal on the debt and then tries to wiggle out of it when it didn't go their way!
sad bunch.

This is one place Ron Paul is RIGHT, cut back on the military!

The GOP needs to get the priorities in order if you are even going to show in the election.
Cut Medicare and SS but beef up the military!
good plan for Obama to get elected! :))


Why don't we cut the spending NOT mandated by the Constitution instead?

Solar

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Considering all the talk about the national debt, why is it so hard for the GOP to cut some defense spending?

I realize that the GOP kickbacks from the military industrial complex are substantial, but seriously, the country is in debt trouble and we need to make cuts.

We DO have the mightiest force on the planet already!
Surely they can handle a few billion in cuts.
The hawks are spending us into the ground.
AND Boehner thinks it will HOLLOW out our military!

I find it amusing, the way the GOP makes a deal on the debt and then tries to wiggle out of it when it didn't go their way!
sad bunch.

This is one place Ron Paul is RIGHT, cut back on the military!

The GOP needs to get the priorities in order if you are even going to show in the election.
Cut Medicare and SS but beef up the military!
good plan for Obama to get elected! :))
Harry beat me to it.
What part of Constitutional mandate do you not understand?
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Just_the_facts_mamm

Explain to me while you are wrapping yourself in the constitution,
what the constitution has to do with NOT reducing the debt?

constitution provides for an armed force to protect us, but not sure it calls for HUNDREDS of bases all over the world and the power to destroy the planet a thousand times!

I thought conservatives were concerned about the national debt?

typically when a conservative has no real answer they wrap themselves in the constitution or the flag.

going to use the flag next?

AND to Harry. constitution does not call for libraries but we have them?
Government run libraries.
what part covers Interstate highways?

Josie

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
Explain to me while you are wrapping yourself in the constitution,
what the constitution has to do with NOT reducing the debt?

constitution provides for an armed force to protect us, but not sure it calls for HUNDREDS of bases all over the world and the power to destroy the planet a thousand times!

I thought conservatives were concerned about the national debt?

typically when a conservative has no real answer they wrap themselves in the constitution or the flag.

going to use the flag next?

AND to Harry. constitution does not call for libraries but we have them?
Government run libraries.
what part covers Interstate highways?
Governments main roll is to ensure order in society and to protect its citizens...if we cut defense too much we won't be prepared for more than one war... if our enemies know that we are weakened and vulnerable they will become more agressive.


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Quoteconstitution provides for an armed force to protect us, but not sure it calls for HUNDREDS of bases all over the world and the power to destroy the planet a thousand times!

Is that you, Ron Paul?

Cryptic Bert

Funny how the Constitution angers liberals...

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 03, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Funny how the Constitution angers liberals...
They hate boundaries, that's why they tried to claim it was a living breathing document, not one written in stone.
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Quote from: Josie on February 03, 2012, 01:20:29 PM
Governments main roll is to ensure order in society and to protect its citizens...if we cut defense too much we won't be prepared for more than one war... if our enemies know that we are weakened and vulnerable they will become more agressive.
what enemy has the ability to even bring a war to our door?
the global economy would crash the day a world war starts.

Big business would not like that.

Military industrial complex might like it, AND they certainly want you to believe that so you will keep sending them tons of money.

Ron Paul is the only GOP that seems to get THAT big picture!

Cryptic Bert

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
what enemy has the ability to even bring a war to our door?
the global economy would crash the day a world war starts.

Big business would not like that.

Military industrial complex might like it, AND they certainly want you to believe that so you will keep sending them tons of money.

Ron Paul is the only GOP that seems to get THAT big picture!

Really?

Start with Al Qeada.

Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 03, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Really?

Start with Al Qeada.
We didn't need to be at war for 10 years to deal with Al Qeada.
couple cruise missile would have been enough.

You know that the Bush administration was offered Osama, just before the invasion of Afghanistan, but Bush refused.
He wanted to be the WAR President!!

Obama and seal team six have done more damage to them than Bush and the 100,000 troops did in 10 years.

way cheaper too.

Solar

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 09:44:36 PM


You know that the Bush administration was offered Osama, just before the invasion of Afghanistan, but Bush refused.He wanted to be the WAR President!!



LINK?
And I don't mean some stupid opinion piece, I mean actual facts.
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Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: Solar on February 03, 2012, 10:15:31 PM

LINK?
And I don't mean some stupid opinion piece, I mean actual facts.

The "war president" was from  Bushes biography.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

Solar

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 11:06:44 PM
The "war president" was from  Bushes biography.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
Now without the spin and deliberate dropping of details.
What part of "Will not negotiate for his release" did you not understand?

Bush Rejects Taliban Bin Laden Offer

By Kathy Gannon
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001; 1:50 p.m. EDT

JALALABAD, Afghanistan –– A senior Taliban leader said Sunday that the Islamic militia would be willing to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country if the United States halts the bombing of Afghanistan and provides evidence against him.

President Bush quickly rejected the offer.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011014/aponline135016_000.htm
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