Society Sacrificed The best And The Brightest

Started by Solar, June 03, 2025, 02:41:05 AM

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For control Over The masses.

Our very own education system was not created to find the best and brightest or most creative; it was designed to cull the nonconformist.
Only later in the late 50s and 60s did this become apparent when they started demanding compliance, that kids, especially boys, sit still for hours at a time.
The schools started targeting these unruly monsters, they couldn't have testosterone running unchecked, now could they?

But what about those who toe the line? What are their rewards? They get an award from the administrators, paraded about as great achievers, examples for others to follow, when in fact, they are pawns in an even bigger plot to contain society.
Next, you are expected to spend all your family's savings to further your place in society, getting sucked into the lie that the more you spend on "Higher Learning", the bigger the rewards and awards.
College used to educate, the Hard Sciences would afford you a better life for the most part, but those days are decades in the past, and gone forever.

But with the lower enrollment numbers, colleges had to find a way to recruit more people, if only for a few years.
So they invented the Liberal Arts Degree, even the government was in on the scam, and because the government made it a requisite for civil service, so was corporate America, since this was all planned by the aforementioned.
From a time when an 8th-grade education was more than sufficient to enter any apprenticeship, society really didn't need college, but society needed society, so they all teamed up for the great fleecing of America.
Now the government was backing loans for the most ridiculous classes and degrees.

With all the focus on the sheep, what about those who were pushed out of society?
Well, many unlucky ones who were told they were useless and would never fit in were forced to make their own way, which usually included a poor outcome in life.
While others struck out on their own and carved out a place in life of productive happiness, while flipping off the system, proving it wrong.
 
I'm pretty much telling my own story, repeated millions of times by others, rejected by the Govt. Sheppard. I'm certain many here can relate.

OK, so the system has collapsed, their last ditch effort with "Toxic masculinity" failed miserably, now what? Well, AI will be right there to take up the slack! :rolleyes:

Thoughts?
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Solar

I asked Grok to review it or make changes in grammar as needed.
Grok tried twice and failed both times, I said I'll leave it as it is.

QuoteThanks for trying, but I think I'll go with my original piece.


No worries at all—your original piece has that raw, personal fire that's hard to replicate, and it's clear you want to keep its authentic sting. I respect sticking with your voice, especially since it channels your story and your fight for the republic's principles against institutional control.

I wrote it at 2:30 this morn, couldn't sleep, so if it doesn't make sense, that's why. I can't correct my own mistakes, I can't see them. :laugh:
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Somewhere in the article about the rapid decline in our schools, the words "no child left behind" needs to appear. That one act has dumbed down generations. Where I see a glimmer of hope, Trump wants to take the money that is being with held from Harvard and give it to trade schools. IMHO, he could take all the money given to "higher" education and give it to trade schools.  :thumbup:

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I wonder if the reason for much of higher ed was to provide jobs for the universities. Random thoughts below.

i knew a woman from Czech. She worked in US as a nanny. She graduated from HS in Czech with rough equivalent as an LPN. she went to a vo-tech HS not a college prep.

In many countries kids are tested and ranked early around 8th grade. They are slotted for tech training or possible college. Maybe 10% go on to universities. People in US complain that US does not have free universities like other countries. I say shut down 80% of universities and the remaining ones could be paid for by the govt.

Apprenticeships are used in other countries but kids have to test into them. Such tests in US are not allowed as racially discriminatory under the Griggs SCOTUS case. So companies use 4 year degrees to take the place of cheap IQ tests.

Around 1972 it took X weeks of min wage jobs to pay for 1 semester credit for in state tuition at a state university. Today it takes 6X weeks. Most of that increase is for admin bloat. Some teaching is done by poorly paid adjuncts.

The YT channel inside china business is good.  He says that US universities got good money from foreign student tuition e.g. Chinese students. Now Chinese schools are better and provide better networking opportunities so fewer come. Indian students are sought to replace them. Also, the US is clamping down on some tech so Chinese profs leave US for China and take research with them.



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Quote from: Possum on June 03, 2025, 01:51:57 PMSomewhere in the article about the rapid decline in our schools, the words "no child left behind" needs to appear. That one act has dumbed down generations. Where I see a glimmer of hope, Trump wants to take the money that is being with held from Harvard and give it to trade schools. IMHO, he could take all the money given to "higher" education and give it to trade schools.  :thumbup:

Very true. Also mentally and other wise slow kids were mainstreamed into normal class rooms. This slowed down the whole class.

Also most teachers as govt employees don't realize that most students are in competition with the whole world.

Possum

Quote from: patentlymn on June 03, 2025, 02:00:59 PMVery true. Also mentally and other wise slow kids were mainstreamed into normal class rooms. This slowed down the whole class.

Also most teachers as govt employees don't realize that most students are in competition with the whole world.
Federal government tells teachers how to teach, what to teach, and who to teach. States put up with this for money. Teachers go along with it because it pays, because they still get some satisfaction out if the job, and the retirement is good.

At some point, we need to understand not every child is going to get educated. Those children do not need to be in school with those who want to learn.

Before I retired I had the opportunity to work with hundreds of kids. By the vast majority, kids today are great. There are bad apples out there, same as adults. Don't blame the kids for the system we put them in.

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Quote from: Possum on June 03, 2025, 02:13:25 PMFederal government tells teachers how to teach, what to teach, and who to teach. States put up with this for money. Teachers go along with it because it pays, because they still get some satisfaction out if the job, and the retirement is good.

At some point, we need to understand not every child is going to get educated. Those children do not need to be in school with those who want to learn.

Before I retired I had the opportunity to work with hundreds of kids. By the vast majority, kids today are great. There are bad apples out there, same as adults. Don't blame the kids for the system we put them in.

I do not blame the kids. I knew one. Apparently downs syndrome. Very touchy feely and a hugger. In my sons boy scout troop. He was mainstreamed into a normal classroom. I felt sorry for the teacher and the other kids. 

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Quote from: patentlymn on June 03, 2025, 02:34:33 PMI do not blame the kids. I knew one. Apparently downs syndrome. Very touchy feely and a hugger. In my sons boy scout troop. He was mainstreamed into a normal classroom. I felt sorry for the teacher and the other kids. 
I fully support our special needs children being in school. Not sure the classroom is the right location. Every child has a right to receive the best education they are capable of learning. Unfortunately, the kids in the middle, or in the poorest neighborhoods get hurt the worst. the ones who in my opinion have no reason to be in school are those who do not want to learn and cause disruption so others can not learn.

patentlymn

Quote from: Possum on June 03, 2025, 02:58:45 PMI fully support our special needs children being in school. Not sure the classroom is the right location. Every child has a right to receive the best education they are capable of learning. Unfortunately, the kids in the middle, or in the poorest neighborhoods get hurt the worst. the ones who in my opinion have no reason to be in school are those who do not want to learn and cause disruption so others can not learn.

I once talked to a teacher in WI. She said that disruptive students would not be expelled because under the WI constitution as they had a right to an education. I said that the WI teachers were the most powerful political group in the state and could work to have that changed. She looked at me like i was a monster.

The moral is that sometimes teachers use impairments to learning as excuses they do not want to change.

Possum

Quote from: patentlymn on June 03, 2025, 03:35:42 PMI once talked to a teacher in WI. She said that disruptive students would not be expelled because under the WI constitution as they had a right to an education. I said that the WI teachers were the most powerful political group in the state and could work to have that changed. She looked at me like i was a monster.

The moral is that sometimes teachers use impairments to learning as excuses they do not want to change.
I have been in that great state several times. It is gorgeous. And cool.

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