Quote from: Possum on March 21, 2024, 07:44:34 AMhttps://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/131715/taiwan-usa-troops-china

The price for China to invade just went up dramatically. However, with the current administration, I can see Biden cut and running. 

Last thing China wants to see is a Trump in the white house and American troops sitting in Taiwan.

They already deployed a company of Green Beret in Taiwan.
However, China is in co condition to invade Taiwan, they have a collapsing society on their hands as we speak.
Millions out of work, an over inflated Yuan, investors have bailed on the country, and it's only getting worse with failing infrastructure.

This Begs The Question, Will The CCP Use This AS An Excuse For War?

I say that because the CCP is on the brink of collapse as a power. I've been following this closely for the last year, and it looks like all hell might break in the Spring or Summer, just a guess.
But the people are sick of no jobs, housing, and no income support from the govt, and that includes the military.

Whatever happens, it doesn't look like the govt will be able to stop what's coming.

Quote from: Solar on February 11, 2025, 04:00:24 PMThis Begs The Question, Will The CCP Use This AS An Excuse For War?

I say that because the CCP is on the brink of collapse as a power. I've been following this closely for the last year, and it looks like all hell might break in the Spring or Summer, just a guess.
But the people are sick of no jobs, housing, and no income support from the govt, and that includes the military.

Whatever happens, it doesn't look like the govt will be able to stop what's coming.

China uses the threat of war much like the democrats uses the threat of what will happen if Trump gets in office. Both are covering up evil. Both cover how bad they govern. Have to wonder, who taught who? Also wonder, besides the democrats, who by now even China must realize they are not worth what they are being paid under the table, is there anyone China could count on? North Korea? but not much there. Anyone else? With Trump in office, I can not see Russia helping China.  Pakistan?

Quote from: Possum on February 12, 2025, 06:26:01 AMChina uses the threat of war much like the democrats uses the threat of what will happen if Trump gets in office. Both are covering up evil. Both cover how bad they govern. Have to wonder, who taught who? Also wonder, besides the democrats, who by now even China must realize they are not worth what they are being paid under the table, is there anyone China could count on? North Korea? but not much there. Anyone else? With Trump in office, I can not see Russia helping China.  Pakistan?

I agree! The CCP does not make friends, they force position via the "Silk Road", these countries are only beholden for money, but they are not actual allies who are willing to sacrifice lives for communists over a few dollars.
The CCP strategically placed itself around the globe solely for its own benefit, but not goodwill because they bring in Chinese people to do the work promised to the indigenous people.
The CCP is in a very precarious position globally, even Putin backed off on their alliance to that of simple trade.

It's been fascinating to watch how they positioned themselves globally under Biden with no opposition, only to run head long into Trump policy.
The reason I say war in Taiwan could be on the horizon is, China needs a distraction on the home front, they need to focus the eyes of the people and the military as well, to create an illusion of homogeneity, if they don't the division within the country will only grow.

I no longer see the CCP as a threat, but a Tiger with broken legs snarling and growling, but stuck in place.

Trump has relegated China to that of third world status and the CCP is freaking out.        

I follow these developments very closely and Trump is moving like a bulldozer across the globe, be it pissing off the EU and ignoring their pleas, as well as ending the Ukraine war without the input of Ukraine or the EU, he is moving ahead with his America First agenda and the leftists heads are spinning.

Anyway, I like this woman's take on everything Asian, she is extremely smart and involved in the affairs of everything that happens in the Asian sphere.
Her videos are short and succinct.

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Trump is Tightening His Grip On The CCP.
They can't continue much longer down this Road, literally, from industry collapse to no trade, even truckers see the writing on the wall.

This has been a public service message.    

Jump to the 9:40 mark, it goes into a short piece on trucking. the CCP is on the verge of collapse, but we know how commies work historically, something is about to change drastically.

Just my Two cents. The CCP can't monetarily afford a war beyond its own shore. The nation/CCP is in collapse, their industries are shutting down, unemployment is at record high and corruption is running rampant, to the point contractors are filling rockets with water and selling the fuel on the black Mkt, and that's only one incident out of thousands.
Oh, and trucking is collapsing, as shippers can't pay wages, because cargo carriers have to leave dock full, as the world boycotts the CCP.

WTF? China Does Live fire Drills Off The Coast of Australia and New Zealand.

They just did it near the Philippines, then Taiwan, and now this shit?

Russia won't bail their asses out! The CCP is treading in extremely dangerous waters, underestimating Trump is probably the stupidest move the CCP could make!

China's Navy Drills Near US Allies Seen as Test for Trump

A spate of drills by China's military in the Indo-Pacific is testing the Trump administration's commitment to regional security soon after its actions raised doubts about its alliances with European nations.

The People's Liberation Army has conducted shooting drills off the coasts of Australia, Vietnam and Taiwan over the past week. While the Chinese actions took place in international waters off Australia and Taiwan, they raised concerns over Beijing's intentions — and whether the US will respond.

"This is China testing the waters to see where the new boundaries are now that we are in the Trump 2.0 era of amorphous and pay-to-play US security guarantees," said Wen-Ti Sung, a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council's Global China Hub.

President Donald Trump's sudden outreach to Russia, his ramped-up criticism of long-standing NATO allies and moves to raise tariffs have fueled doubts about whether the new administration remains a trusted security partner in other parts of the world.

Beijing has taken notice of the cracks in US alliance, with a Thursday commentary from the official Xinhua News Agency warning that "being America's ally is fatal."

China's Global Times cited military affairs commentator Song Zhongping saying the country's naval exercises "are expected to become more frequent, and some countries should adjust to this trend."

https://gcaptain.com/chinas-navy-drills-near-us-allies-seen-as-test-for-trump/

Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2025, 04:48:11 PMJust my Two cents. The CCP can't monetarily afford a war beyond its own shore. The nation/CCP is in collapse, their industries are shutting down, unemployment is at record high and corruption is running rampant, to the point contractors are filling rockets with water and selling the fuel on the black Mkt, and that's only one incident out of thousands.
Oh, and trucking is collapsing, as shippers can't pay wages, because cargo carriers have to leave dock full, as the world boycotts the CCP.

WTF? China Does Live fire Drills Off The Coast of Australia and New Zealand.

They just did it near the Philippines, then Taiwan, and now this shit?

Russia won't bail their asses out! The CCP is treading in extremely dangerous waters, underestimating Trump is probably the stupidest move the CCP could make!

China's Navy Drills Near US Allies Seen as Test for Trump

A spate of drills by China's military in the Indo-Pacific is testing the Trump administration's commitment to regional security soon after its actions raised doubts about its alliances with European nations.

The People's Liberation Army has conducted shooting drills off the coasts of Australia, Vietnam and Taiwan over the past week. While the Chinese actions took place in international waters off Australia and Taiwan, they raised concerns over Beijing's intentions — and whether the US will respond.

"This is China testing the waters to see where the new boundaries are now that we are in the Trump 2.0 era of amorphous and pay-to-play US security guarantees," said Wen-Ti Sung, a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council's Global China Hub.

President Donald Trump's sudden outreach to Russia, his ramped-up criticism of long-standing NATO allies and moves to raise tariffs have fueled doubts about whether the new administration remains a trusted security partner in other parts of the world.

Beijing has taken notice of the cracks in US alliance, with a Thursday commentary from the official Xinhua News Agency warning that "being America's ally is fatal."

China's Global Times cited military affairs commentator Song Zhongping saying the country's naval exercises "are expected to become more frequent, and some countries should adjust to this trend."

https://gcaptain.com/chinas-navy-drills-near-us-allies-seen-as-test-for-trump/

Wild ass guess, China is using drills to intimidate others, it's their only way out of war. They are trying to convince others they are still the massive power that they never were. Losing their key allies, the Biden's, hurt them bad.

I think this,

QuoteThe CCP can't monetarily afford a war beyond its own shore

nails it. They are trying to convince the world otherwise, that they can wage war anywhere.

Quote from: Possum on March 01, 2025, 05:19:41 AMWild ass guess, China is using drills to intimidate others, it's their only way out of war. They are trying to convince others they are still the massive power that they never were. Losing their key allies, the Biden's, hurt them bad.

I think this, nails it. They are trying to convince the world otherwise, that they can wage war anywhere.

I agree, but I'm still lost. Cause it doesn't make a lot of sense at this time. I don't know if it's bad intel thinking they can turn us against trump, or that this will weaken him?
Maybe it's for home consumption, the people, because they're getting their asses kicked worldwide in every  category, so they're trying to convince them in hopes of saving the economy in collapse?

Nothing makes sense, though they do see the Down Under as extremely weak militarily and politically, so they may be  embarrassing them just because they can.

I don't understand, the idea of pissing off your customers never made any sense, unless you sit on top of the world, and that definitely isn't China be any stretch of the imagination.

Orrrr, could it be a Kim thing, like north Korea, "Notice Me, notice Me", don't forget I still exist, as the world focuses on Russia, Ukraine, and Trump?        

Ya know, that last one actually make more sense than anything else.

Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2025, 07:13:54 AMI agree, but I'm still lost. Cause it doesn't make a lot of sense at this time. I don't know if it's bad intel thinking they can turn us against trump, or that this will weaken him?
Maybe it's for home consumption, the people, because they're getting their asses kicked worldwide in every  category, so they're trying to convince them in hopes of saving the economy in collapse?

Nothing makes sense, though they do see the Down Under as extremely weak militarily and politically, so they may be  embarrassing them just because they can.

I don't understand, the idea of pissing off your customers never made any sense, unless you sit on top of the world, and that definitely isn't China be any stretch of the imagination.

Orrrr, could it be a Kim thing, like north Korea, "Notice Me, notice Me", don't forget I still exist, as the world focuses on Russia, Ukraine, and Trump?        

Ya know, that last one actually make more sense than anything else.

throwing this out there, What reaction would Biden, Bush, Obama, ETC. take to stop China from acting bad? They damn sure would not have punished them. Were there rewards under the table? I have to guess China is doing this because it has paid off in the past????

On that Kim thing, makes sense, past presidents have acted like China is a HUGE threat, Trump kicks them in their butt.

Quote from: Possum on March 01, 2025, 10:18:43 AMthrowing this out there, What reaction would Biden, Bush, Obama, ETC. take to stop China from acting bad? They damn sure would not have punished them. Were there rewards under the table? I have to guess China is doing this because it has paid off in the past????

On that Kim thing, makes sense, past presidents have acted like China is a HUGE threat, Trump kicks them in their butt.

Excellent point about the Deepstate leaders like Obozo, still influencing current outcomes.
The sooner he's in prison, the sooner this all stops.
I've no doubt you nailed it on this one, but I also think these moves are as shallow as the players backing them.

Pretty much the moves of a dying NWO.

This is Russia's backyard, the CCP moved in without Russia's permission.

China's Latest Encroachment on Russia's Sphere of Influence




At the end of July, Tajikistan and China will hold joint military exercises in Tajikistan's Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Region. These ostensibly anti-terrorist exercises will feature Tajikistani air, ground and air-defense forces. The composition of the Chinese contribution has not yet been announced (Avesta.tj, July 9). This will not be the first instance of Chinese troops holding maneuvers with their counterparts from Tajikistan: In 2016, a joint force of about 10,000 conducted the first Sino-Tajik bilateral drills, also in Gorno-Badakhshan. And that same year, China, Tajikistan, Pakistan and Afghanistan formed a "Quadrilateral Cooperation and Coordination Mechanism in Counter Terrorism" (Mod.gov.cn, August 4, 2016). Nevertheless, the recent announcement actually has outsized significance and is anything but routine. First of all, it demonstrates China's continuing ability to either compel or impose its will on Tajikistan without anybody, including Moscow, being able to do much about it. And second of all, and building on the first fact, the upcoming exercise represents a next step in China's overall encroachment upon Russia's self-proclaimed "sphere of influence" in Central Asian. Again Moscow either cannot or will not do anything to counter that trend.

China's growing influence over and pressure on Tajikistan reached a notable milestone in 2011, when it forced the Central Asian state to make previously (in 2002) agreed-upon territorial concessions in return for investment in Tajikistani infrastructure (see EDM, January 24, 2011). Since then, China has become the largest foreign investor in Tajikistan—not because the latter has resources and other attractive features, but rather because the small country is essential for the transport of goods and commodities via Central Asia both to and from China as part of Beijing's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) (see China Brief, May 25, 2012). Indeed, without Chinese support, Tajikistan might go bankrupt—and it certainly appears that Dushanbe either has already or is on the verge of falling into Beijing's debt trap (Cgdev.org, March 4, 2018).

Having largely secured its preeminent economic position in Tajikistan and the wider Central Asian region, China has increasingly been extending its influence into the security sphere. Indeed, in 2016, Beijing signed an agreement with Dushanbe pledging to finance "the construction of eleven [Tajikistani] outposts of different sizes and a training center for [Tajikistan's] border guards" (Belt and Road News, February 26, 2019). Moreover, a series of bilateral secret agreements reached in 2015–2016 reportedly "gave Beijing rights to refurbish or build up to 30 to 40 guard posts on the Tajik side of the country's border with Afghanistan" (The Wall Street Journal, June 18). But as it now turns out, China is also extending its own military presence throughout Central and South Asia's Pamir areas (ASIA-Plus—Tajikistan, February 21).

More.

https://jamestown.org/program/sino-tajik-exercises-the-latest-chinese-encroachment-into-russias-sphere-of-influence/

Wonder if this is going to move a Putin/Trump deal closer.

Quote from: Rick on March 03, 2025, 06:53:26 AMWonder if this is going to move a Putin/Trump deal closer.

It's not helping the CCP and Russian relationship, that's for certain.
The CCP is doing this in several places of Russian dominance, like Russia building a base in Mexico, it won't be tolerated for long.
Just imagine a world where Russia and the US trade freely between one another, I think that's Trumps' plan.
We need to kill off the cancer of the CCP.

Is China lying about its population?