Quote from: Possum on March 03, 2025, 10:45:29 AMWild ass guess, What ever the European values are, at least according to the elite, they do not include the middle class. Immigration out of control destroys what the middle class builds up, forces them to rely more on the government and slowly disappear.

Pretty much sums it up, the elites hate the middle/working class. Nor does the EU have any values all its own, the individual Nations no longer take pride in what made them better, different.
Hell, they don't even believe in free speech, the cornerstone of what they claim was democracy.
If they are oppressing simple freedoms, they are nothing more than a lowly dictatorship.
No one is going to fight for that, their youth have no individual pride as they watch migrants rape their women with impunity.

It looks to me like the EU is on a path to destruction, kinda like a compartmentalized Titanic.
But not one that as individuals, can save by breaking off, but clinging on out of fear of going it alone.
I'm pretty sure the EU experiment is done, it's now just a matter of time before the Brits, or Spaniards call it quits, Ireland, Portugal, Norway. it will only take one to be brave enough to go it alone.
One thing is certain, they need the US, but we don't need them! Nor do we, the American people really want them.

Well this is refreshing...   Toy

wild ass guess, Zelensky's insistence from Trump that the U.S. will be there to protect Ukraine should Russia not honor a cease fire tells me it's Zelensky who does not plant to honor the cease fire.  Typical liberal, accuse the other person of doing what you plan on doing.

Quote from: Possum on March 03, 2025, 02:25:17 PMwild ass guess, Zelensky's insistence from Trump that the U.S. will be there to protect Ukraine should Russia not honor a cease fire tells me it's Zelensky who does not plant to honor the cease fire.  Typical liberal, accuse the other person of doing what you plan on doing.

Nailed it!!!
The EU wants war, and this puppet is willing to do their bidding. The sooner we walk away from the EU and NATO, the better off we'll be.

I just thought this was interesting. Commonsense.

The Supreme Court has said:

"The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."

I'd like to go on record, that the US and Russia will enter a new era of trade, travel, and peace (allied).
The EU will be leftist to their reality as the free world abandons them.
This will force them to open up to freedom as they purge migrants. If they don't, the EU will die.

Wild ass guess, hidden in Trump's dealings with Russia and Ukraine is the message to Europe we don't need you. Or possibly even want you. I think they are getting the message Trump will walk away from them.

Quote from: Possum on March 04, 2025, 02:05:03 PMWild ass guess, hidden in Trump's dealings with Russia and Ukraine is the message to Europe we don't need you. Or possibly even want you. I think they are getting the message Trump will walk away from them.

True, not only do we not need the EU, but their values no longer align with those of American values.
If one considers the outcome of an absent Europe, would it affect us?
I can't see any significant impact outside of yanking the teat out of their mouths and saving us, the taxpayers' money, where do we lose?

What does Europe do for us?

Look at what the UK has allowed. Muslims control London and many surrounding areas and cities, Organized rape gangs abound as well as increases in street crimes. Worst of all you can get arrested for "Hate speech" if you speak against it. France is a mess with the Muzz immigrants, having their own "Autonomous" zone. Italy is getting overrun as well by wild in the streets Africans who invade the country by the boatload, literally. Why would we want to defend countries that don't defend themselves internally?

Poland and Ireland are the only places resisting and actively thwarting overwhelming immigration.

Seems like the democrat plan for fighting the increasing popularity of Trump's policy is to yell and scream.

Hell, I'm all for it!   


Has there been any counter measure?

Not to start a conspiracy theory, but I have never been satisfied with the version we have been told about 9/11. IMHO, this is why it is still a day for,,,, let's say reflection. Not really reflection for the victims, they were collateral damage, but reflection as to why we "need" our government to spy on our citizens and trample on our rights. Up to this point, this nation has still taken in refugees from countries/religions who despise us. We have seen our government throw open a border to let anyone/everyone in. And we have seen that it is us who is more closely watched. The more the government tells us it is about the victims that day, the more we know that they still see an opportunity for more control.   

Why would you think it collapsed because of fire. I mean if you suddenly drop 100 ton's of airplane on one floor it is going to collapses.

Quote from: Possum on March 04, 2025, 02:05:03 PMWild ass guess, hidden in Trump's dealings with Russia and Ukraine is the message to Europe we don't need you. Or possibly even want you. I think they are getting the message Trump will walk away from them.

Is it really all that hidden?    

Quote from: Rick on March 06, 2025, 06:51:21 AMWhy would you think it collapsed because of fire. I mean if you suddenly drop 100 ton's of airplane on one floor it is going to collapses.

Each floor weighed 4,500 tons of concrete and steel, and covered 43,000 square feet. If adding another 100 tons caused the collapse, why did it not collapse when the plane first hit? If, as we have been told, it was the fire from the fuel, this would be one theory the government could have proved in the first week. They could show how thick the steel was, how much concrete encased it, and how high the temperature would have to get to weaken it. A quick google search, from day one, tells us yes, jet fuel can weaken steel, but does not give the facts. Why? 

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2025, 07:15:31 AMIs it really all that hidden?    

Right thar in the open where nobody looks.