The siege plan for Hamas in northern Gaza:

To surprise *and not go deep into the Gaza Strip as Hamas expects us to do*, but to impose a complete siege on the north of the Gaza Strip, dry up and suffocate the Hamas terrorists in the tunnels until they are forced to leave.
To create a new security strip 2 km deep into the territory of the strip along our entire border, a permanent strip. This is through the use of massive firepower and ground forces, and engineering. Imagine bulldozers simply leveling the area.
Continuously use firepower on Hamas all over the Strip. Israel conducts a continuous series of targeted ground operations with enormous firepower, to separate neighborhood from neighborhood from Hamas. There is no need to hunt down every Hamasnik in a hole and a tunnel.
The residents of Gaza stay in the southern half of the Strip or outside the Strip until the end of the war: when Hamas disarms unilaterally and releases all the hostages. This, of course, according to international law, to preserve their lives. Countries around the world can take in the refugees—temporarily, of course—until Hamas surrenders and the war ends. Between 6 months and 5 years.
In the south of the Gaza Strip, humanitarian corridors are allowed, and we allow (but do not give ourselves): water, food, medicine. This is as required by international law.
Do not allow any drop of fuel to enter the entire strip. Without fuel there are no tunnels because there is no ventilation and no lighting. Every drop that enters the Gaza Strip goes to Hamas. Fuel = fighting. So not a bit.
Strategic patience: make the passing time work in our favor. We have all the time in the world.
After initial ground operations, 250,000 military personnel must be released home as soon as possible, in order to release economic-civil pressure, to restore the economy and life to order. We must not just stress ourselves artificially just because we called up 350,000 reservists.
Any country in the world that expresses pain over the situation of the refugees in the south is invited to temporarily host refugees (Scotland, Egypt, Turkey, etc.).
Avoid collateral damage as much as possible, which could interrupt the Israeli operation before achieving Hamas's surrender.

Advantages Of The Program
Trickery and surprise: this is exactly the opposite of what Hamas has been preparing for for a decade. Contrary to what he expects us to do. Hamas believes that we have a breathing space of 4-5 weeks inside Gaza and then we will leave, as has always happened in the last decade.
Dehydrates Hamas operatives. Imagine "Muhammad" a Hamas operative who is currently waiting for us in the tunnel, alert and ready. Under siege, he will be forced to wait for months in his humid tunnel, wet, hungry, depressed, and when the fuel runs out, the tunnel will go dark, and there will be no oxygen: his family may be in the mud in the south of the Gaza Strip or in Egypt or Belgium: what am I doing here?
Transfers the pressure from Israel to Hamas; Passing the lever from Hamas to us. Right now all the leverage is with them. the abductees They will play and play us. This thing turns the bowl and basically the lever goes to us.
The Hamas leadership will find itself in a dilemma: either Hamas or the state of Gaza. If Sinuar does not disarm he will go down in history as the one who destroyed his country and brought a historical disaster on his people.
Dramatically reduces the chances of Hezbollah involvement: A. They have no specific trigger to go to war. B. Israeli forces are kept fresh and free to strike in Lebanon.
A sustainable political line of defense: until the Israelis do not return home, neither will the Gazans return home. Everyone is going home together: Israeli hostages are returning home to Israel, families from the Gaza enclave will return only with the disappearance of Hamas, and the residents of Gaza will also be able to return because the war is over and the danger to their lives has passed.
The program was tested by DBA experts and meets all the tests of international law.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-10-29/laying-siege-gaza

Thats a plan.

First contact and all that.

Quote from: Rick on October 29, 2023, 08:33:55 PMThats a plan.

First contact and all that.

It really has a sound approach to it, doesn't it though...
Kind of like a 5 year long game of slow-motion Whack a Mole.

Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2023, 03:37:28 AMIt really has a sound approach to it, doesn't it though...
Kind of like a 5 year long game of slow-motion Whack a Mole.

Exactly. What is the rush. Time is on the side of Israelis.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 30, 2023, 04:45:23 AMExactly. What is the rush. Time is on the side of Israelis.

Exactly!
It's not as if they're leveling the area, they're just positioned to sit and wait it out.

Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2023, 04:47:05 AMExactly!
It's not as if they're leveling the area, they're just positioned to sit and wait it out.

I am learning more and the cutting off fuel supply to Gaza is key, but not quick. It is my understanding the tunnels require fuel for lights and ventilation. If the tunnels become uninhabitable Hamas becomes a sitting duck on the surface.

Yea, and the reports of nerve gas?

Quote from: Rick on October 30, 2023, 07:59:13 AMYea, and the reports of nerve gas?

What reports and which side might be using nerve gas?

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 30, 2023, 07:12:08 AMI am learning more and the cutting off fuel supply to Gaza is key, but not quick. It is my understanding the tunnels require fuel for lights and ventilation. If the tunnels become uninhabitable Hamas becomes a sitting duck on the surface.

Israel also has a "Sponge Bomb", like those can of foam insulation, but on a massive scale that expands hundreds of feet into the tunnel, and nearly impossible to hack through even after weeks.

So sealing off all the right tunnels, leaves but a few options where terrorists can escape.

At the moment, I looked up Hamas in the dictionary, it said "foreign terrorist organization" Or FTO.

terrorist organization: A political movement that uses terror as a weapon to achieve its goals

I post this because, watch as virtually every dictionary online, updates their definitions of Hamas.

Best way to get varmints out of their tunnel is to flood it.   

Quote from: Possum on October 30, 2023, 12:26:54 PMBest way to get varmints out of their tunnel is to flood it.   

With hydrogen and a match.

Tunnel rats in Vietnam used FU gas. pump it in...light a MATCH...

It sounds to me like they are shutting down certain sections of interconnected tunnels and herding the rats into kill zones...probably using infa red to track them. When they get the rats where they want then here comes a bunker buster bomb.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on October 30, 2023, 03:19:21 PMTunnel rats in Vietnam used FU gas. pump it in...light a MATCH...

It sounds to me like they are shutting down certain sections of interconnected tunnels and herding the rats into kill zones...probably using infa red to track them. When they get the rats where they want then here comes a bunker buster bomb.

I want video!