Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2022, 09:22:07 AMNope, you don't have a fifth one! You can argue against reality all you like, but seriously, you can't hide the fact that you're nothing more than a troll.

I'm a person that relies heavily on facts, data and reason.  The lack of video evidence is a fact.  The geo location info is data.  I can't find a reasonable explanation for why video evidence wasn't included.  It would be dishonest

Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2022, 09:22:07 AMNope, you don't have a fifth one! You can argue against reality all you like, but seriously, you can't hide the fact that you're nothing more than a troll.

I'm actually arguing for reality. 

Quote from: ZenMode on October 31, 2022, 06:54:01 AMI'm not sure where the disconnect is here. They picked their criteria. Why did they pick 5 non-profits and 10 boxes, or whatever their initial criteria was? I have no idea and their rationale in picking specific numbers is irrelevant to this discussion. Let's say I'm wrong and it was originally 6 non-profits and 10 boxes. It would change absolutely nothing as far as the FACT that they never showed a mule, on video, at more than one drop box. That is a fact and that is what I am questioning.

Do you believe they have that information, or do you think they're lying?

Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2022, 10:05:54 AMDo you believe they have that information, or do you think they're lying?

This isn't a question of absolutes.  For me, it's a question of confidence in what they're claiming.  I have no doubt that they have the data and that data is real.  The level to which I believe what they are claiming is decreased based on the fact that the didn't show any of the mules at a drop box more than once.

Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2022, 09:22:07 AMNope, you don't have a fifth one! You can argue against reality all you like, but seriously, you can't hide the fact that you're nothing more than a troll.

Is there a contest going on for who can be the densest? Or who can go around in a circle the most? Or who can stick to the dumbest argument? Or who can close their eyes, cover their ears and sing the loudest? IF SO::::  We have a winner!!!  

Quote from: ZenMode on October 31, 2022, 09:55:42 AMI'm a person that relies heavily on facts, data and reason.  The lack of video evidence is a fact.  The geo location info is data.  I can't find a reasonable explanation for why video evidence wasn't included.  It would be dishonestI'm actually arguing for reality. 

You're arguing for a five legged dog.

All the proof was turned over to law enforcement, proving the election was stolen.
How is it you get hung up on minor shit? Seriously, this is like seeing a Denny's ad, running out to Denny's, ordering what you saw on TV, then bitching it doesn't look as good as the ad.

Deal with it! It's over, you lost, we won and the election will be nullified!

Quote from: Possum on October 31, 2022, 11:21:52 AMIs there a contest going on for who can be the densest? Or who can go around in a circle the most? Or who can stick to the dumbest argument? Or who can close their eyes, cover their ears and sing the loudest? IF SO::::  We have a winner!!!  

And the Obtuse Award for densest poster goes to: "ZEN", let's have around of applause!

Quote from: Possum on October 31, 2022, 11:21:52 AMIs there a contest going on for who can be the densest? Or who can go around in a circle the most? Or who can stick to the dumbest argument? Or who can close their eyes, cover their ears and sing the loudest? IF SO::::  We have a winner!!!  

Are you insinuating Midcan's Michael Phelps-like run at idiocy is in jeopardy?

Quote from: taxed on October 30, 2022, 02:16:37 PMThat's exactly what they do.  It's why it's so difficult to get them to commit to a point, because it's another 2x4 in the construction of the gallow for their argument.

Another inch up the a$$ of their ignorance?

Too much?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 31, 2022, 06:54:01 AMI'm not sure where the disconnect is here. They picked their criteria. Why did they pick 5 non-profits and 10 boxes, or whatever their initial criteria was? I have no idea and their rationale in picking specific numbers is irrelevant to this discussion. Let's say I'm wrong and it was originally 6 non-profits and 10 boxes. It would change absolutely nothing as far as the FACT that they never showed a mule, on video, at more than one drop box. That is a fact and that is what I am questioning.

Everything else being brought up is just a distraction from that fact.

But you know the video exists and that they have it, even though they didnt show it in the movie, right?

Because this fact makes your fact moot. Showing it in the video would offer NO additional credibility to their claims.

Because its all been confirmed by law enforcement. So there is no question that they have what they say they have.

You can admit that FACT, right? That TTV has exactly what they claim to have: All 2000 mules at 10 seperate ballot boxes.

Me:

Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2022, 10:05:54 AMDo you believe they have that information, or do you think they're lying?

You:

Quote from: ZenMode on October 31, 2022, 11:03:05 AMThis isn't a question of absolutes.

I didn't ask you for anything absolute.  Re-read my question and see if you can process it with some semblance of intelligence. 

QuoteFor me, it's a question of confidence in what they're claiming.

Re-read my question.

QuoteI have no doubt that they have the data and that data is real.  The level to which I believe what they are claiming is decreased based on the fact that the didn't show any of the mules at a drop box more than once.

Did you see any data when they helped arrest the killer of those two little girls?  Do you believe they had that data?

Did you see any data when they handed off evidence to FBI on Eugene Yu?  Do you believe they have that data?

Why is your confidence now less after they proved to have the good when they say they do?

Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2022, 06:09:57 PMMe:

You:
I didn't ask you for anything absolute.  Re-read my question and see if you can process it with some semblance of intelligence. 

Re-read my question.


Did you see any data when they helped arrest the killer of those two little girls?  Do you believe they had that data?

Did you see any data when they handed off evidence to FBI on Eugene Yu?  Do you believe they have that data?

Why is your confidence now less after they proved to have the good when they say they do?

I believe there is no good explanation for the lack of video evidence.  I'm not going to pretend that fact doesn't exist to get the approval of all of the 100% stolen election believers.

Quote from: ZenMode on November 01, 2022, 05:00:40 AMI'm not going to pretend that fact doesn't exist to get the approval of all of the 100% stolen election believers.

So despite the smoking gun, dead body, DNA, fingerprints, video evidence and witnesses, you still think the election wasn't stolen?                

Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2022, 06:24:01 AMSo despite the smoking gun, dead body, DNA, fingerprints, video evidence and witnesses, you still think the election wasn't stolen?                

I said previously that I can't definitively say for sure whether it was or wasn't.  To definitively know there would have to be full audits and a count of fraudulent ballots.  I slightly lean toward the side that it was, though more by illegal/unconstitutional changes made by states as the primary cause.

Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2022, 09:22:07 AMNope, you don't have a fifth one! You can argue against reality all you like, but seriously, you can't hide the fact that you're nothing more than a troll.

I think that went RIGHT over his head       

Quote from: ZenMode on November 01, 2022, 05:00:40 AMI believe there is no good explanation for the lack of video evidence.  I'm not going to pretend that fact doesn't exist to get the approval of all of the 100% stolen election believers.

No ones asking you to do that. Only to be honest and open minded, using logic and reason. Yet you refuse to do that. Why?