Quote from: T Hunt on October 27, 2022, 08:21:23 AMDont expect an answer. This one loves to dodge. Ive been trying to find out why multiple boxes matters at all from him and he wont answer the question.

Of course he is saying that if the video doesnt show multiple boxes then it proves nothing, but he wont say that because we all know its a lie.

I've been studying libtards for many years, much like how Jane Goodall studied the chimps.  I'm coming to figure out that their perceived logic centers are completely disconnected.  They may argue 1 + 1 == 2 and 2 + 2 == 4, but in another context, they argue 3 + 3 != 6.  They have no grounding in logic.  It's quite fascinating.

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 12:55:34 PMWhy?  How is their geolocation evidence not better?

Geolocation data doesn't show a crime.  It's not a crime to be close to a non-profit and then close to a drop box.  Video of the Mules actually putting ballots into drop boxes would be evidence of an actual crime in the majority of situations.

Quote from: ZenMode on October 27, 2022, 01:51:55 PMGeolocation data doesn't show a crime.  It's not a crime to be close to a non-profit and then close to a drop box.

Wrong. It's called "correlation".  It's pretty well known in cybersecurity.

QuoteVideo of the Mules actually putting ballots into drop boxes would be evidence of an actual crime in the majority of situations.

Yes. They were at the locations where they were dropping the ballots, which are also on video -- in 2KM or not.

Why are you struggling with this?

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 02:07:23 PMWrong. It's called "correlation".  It's pretty well known in cybersecurity.
Yes. They were at the locations where they were dropping the ballots, which are also on video -- in 2KM or not.

Why are you struggling with this?

How far would you want law enforcement to go based on the fact that people are close to a non-profit and a drop box?

Do you believe showing the identified Mules on video at multiple drop boxes would be more convincing than just showing them close to drop boxes?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 27, 2022, 03:08:07 PMHow far would you want law enforcement to go based on the fact that people are close to a non-profit and a drop box?

That's supporting evidence, not THE evidence. If you're proving someone murdered a person, and you have the suspect buying a knife at the store 20 minutes before the murder, and the murder happened with a knife, that's supporting evidence, along with the other evidence they have.

I don't understand why you disagree with that.

QuoteDo you believe showing the identified Mules on video at multiple drop boxes would be more convincing than just showing them close to drop boxes?

The problem with stupid people, like yourself, is you're not understanding the geolocation data matches up with video evidence, at a minimum. If you have a person at a drop box doing illegal things, and you have the geolocation data tied to that person, even for that one person in that one instance of the video, then you see the geolocation data go to the other drop boxes, then you have that person going around, ALONG with the other video evidence that wasn't in the doc.

Serious question: what do you do for a living?

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 03:24:09 PMThat's supporting evidence, not THE evidence. If you're proving someone murdered a person, and you have the suspect buying a knife at the store 20 minutes before the murder, and the murder happened with a knife, that's supporting evidence, along with the other evidence they have.

I don't understand why you disagree with that.
The problem with stupid people, like yourself, is you're not understanding the geolocation data matches up with video evidence, at a minimum. If you have a person at a drop box doing illegal things, and you have the geolocation data tied to that person, even for that one person in that one instance of the video, then you see the geolocation data go to the other drop boxes, then you have that person going around, ALONG with the other video evidence that wasn't in the doc.

Serious question: what do you do for a living?

That all sounds reasonable. Why didn't the movie show it? Why didn't they show Person A at a drop box, aligned with geo data, and then show them at another drop box and another drop box? Geo data tells you when they are at a specific location. If you have the video,  why not drive the point home and show it?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 27, 2022, 03:59:49 PMThat all sounds reasonable.

I know.

QuoteWhy didn't the movie show it? Why didn't they show Person A at a drop box, aligned with geo data, and then show them at another drop box and another drop box?

I wasn't involved in the production.

QuoteGeo data tells you when they are at a specific location.

QuoteIf you have the video,  why not drive the point home and show it?

Why not show multiple people instead?  TTV said the minimum number of stops of each of those mules was 10.

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 04:12:45 PMI know.
I wasn't involved in the production.



Why not show multiple people instead?  TTV said the minimum number of stops of each of those mules was 10.

I wasn't involved in the production.

I understand that  but what reasoning can you, or anyone, come up with? I'm not saying the geo data isn't fishy, but they could have nailed this by doing one thing: showing video of what they claimed was happening. I can't think of a single legitimate reason for not showing video of what they claim.

The other lesser issue is use of drop boxes by mules. Knowing that drop boxes have video surveillance, why go to them at 1,2 or 3 in the morning?  Why not put them in a mail box which is not video surveilled?

Quote from: ZenMode on October 27, 2022, 04:37:14 PMI wasn't involved in the production.

I understand that  but what reasoning can you, or anyone, come up with? I'm not saying the geo data isn't fishy, but they could have nailed this by doing one thing: showing video of what they claimed was happening. I can't think of a single legitimate reason for not showing video of what they claim.

They said to be one of those people in the documentary, you had to visit a minimum of 10 other drop boxes.  That was their criteria.  Why are you not able to accept that?

QuoteThe other lesser issue is use of drop boxes by mules. Knowing that drop boxes have video surveillance, why go to them at 1,2 or 3 in the morning?  Why not put them in a mail box which is not video surveilled?

They're dumb people who were fine breaking the law for money.  Are you using their lack of intelligence as a defense to cast reasonable doubt?  Sometimes the murderer gets blood spatter all over them and leave fingerprints and shoe prints. 

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 04:43:48 PMThey said to be one of those people in the documentary, you had to visit a minimum of 10 other drop boxes.  That was their criteria.  Why are you not able to accept that?

They're dumb people who were fine breaking the law for money.  Are you using their lack of intelligence as a defense to cast reasonable doubt?  Sometimes the murderer gets blood spatter all over them and leave fingerprints and shoe prints. 

This seems to be the crux of the matter with him. He cant accept that multiple law enforcement agencies have confirmed this data, for him if he doesnt see it himself then it doesnt exist.

TTV never claimed to have all 4 million minutes of video in the movie yet if they dont show all the relevant parts he thinks he has reasonable doubt, ignoring all the law enforcement agencies.

Quote from: T Hunt on October 27, 2022, 05:35:19 PMThis seems to be the crux of the matter with him. He cant accept that multiple law enforcement agencies have confirmed this data, for him if he doesnt see it himself then it doesnt exist.

TTV never claimed to have all 4 million minutes of video in the movie yet if they dont show all the relevant parts he thinks he has reasonable doubt, ignoring all the law enforcement agencies.

4mm minutes is a hell of a lot of video.  I'm not sure I'd have the time to watch that.

What makes it even more funny, and like you mentioned with law enforcement, his data was good enough to catch those thugs who killed that little girl in Atlanta.  His data was good enough to bust Eugene Yu.  But somehow, because they didn't show more video, he's a liar and his data is no good.

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 06:07:01 PM4mm minutes is a hell of a lot of video.  I'm not sure I'd have the time to watch that.

What makes it even more funny, and like you mentioned with law enforcement, his data was good enough to catch those thugs who killed that little girl in Atlanta.  His data was good enough to bust Eugene Yu.  But somehow, because they didn't show more video, he's a liar and his data is no good.

Once a leftist has made up his mind about something, suddenly his standard of proof becomes unreasonable.

Quote from: T Hunt on October 27, 2022, 06:41:12 PMOnce a leftist has made up his mind about something, suddenly his standard of proof becomes unreasonable.

I don't get it.           

Quote from: Possum on October 27, 2022, 06:50:03 PMI don't get it.           

           

Quote from: taxed on October 27, 2022, 04:43:48 PMThey said to be one of those people in the documentary, you had to visit a minimum of 10 other drop boxes.  That was their criteria.  Why are you not able to accept that?

They're dumb people who were fine breaking the law for money.  Are you using their lack of intelligence as a defense to cast reasonable doubt?  Sometimes the murderer gets blood spatter all over them and leave fingerprints and shoe prints. 

See, he wont answer the question, he will just run away to avoid answering why it would matter between one drop box and several. He cant defend the leftist talking point.