I may sticky this thread because it would appear that Europe could be on the verge of a civil war by November if people start freezing to death.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2022/september/12/europe-commits-suicide-by-sanctions/

A Swiss billboard is making the rounds on social media depicting a young woman on the telephone. The caption reads, "Does the neighbor heat the apartment to over 19 degrees (66F)? Please inform us." While the Swiss government has dismissed the poster as a fake, the penalties Swiss citizens face for daring to warm their homes are very real. According to the Swiss newspaper Blick, those who violate the 66 degree heating limit could face as many as three years in prison!

Prison time for heating your home? In the "free" world? How is it possible in 2022, when Switzerland and the rest of the political west have achieved the greatest economic success in history, that the European continent faces a winter like something out of the dark ages?

Sanctions.

While long promoted – often by those opposed to war – as a less destructive alternative to war, sanctions are in reality acts of war. And as we know with interventionism and war, the result is often unintended consequences and even blowback.

European sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine earlier this year will likely go down in history as a prime example of how sanctions can result in unintended consequences. While seeking to punish Russia by cutting off gas and oil imports, European Union politicians forgot that Europe is completely dependent on Russian energy supplies and that the only people to suffer if those imports are shut down are the Europeans themselves.

The Russians simply pivoted to the south and east and found plenty of new buyers in China, India, and elsewhere. In fact, Russia's state-run Gazprom energy company has reported that its profits have increased by 100 percent in the first half of this year.

Russia is getting rich while Europeans are facing a freezing winter and economic collapse. All because of the false belief that sanctions are a cost-free way to force other countries to do what you want them to do.

What happens when the people see dumb government policies making energy bills skyrocket as the economy grounds to a halt? They become desperate and take to the streets in protest.

This weekend thousands of Austrians took to the streets in a "Freedom Rally" to demand an end to sanctions and the opening of Nord Stream II, the gas pipeline on the verge of opening earlier this year. Last week an estimated 100,000 Czechs took to the streets of Prague to protest NATO and EU policy. In France, the "Yellow Vests" are back in the streets protesting the destruction of their economy in the name of "defeating" Russia in Ukraine. In Germany, Serbia, and elsewhere, protests are gearing up.

Even the Washington Post was forced to admit that sanctions on Russia are not having the intended effect. In an article yesterday, the paper worries that sanctions are inflicting "collateral damage in Russia and beyond, potentially even hurting the very countries that impose them. Some even worried that the sanctions intended to deter and weaken Putin could end up emboldening and strengthening him."

This is all predictable. Sanctions kill. Sometimes they kill innocents in the country targeted for destruction and sometimes they kill innocents in the country imposing them. The solution, as always, is non-intervention. No sanctions, no "color revolutions," no meddling. It's really that simple.
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Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2022, 10:57:00 AMI may sticky this thread because it would appear that Europe could be on the verge of a civil war by November if people start freezing to death.


A Swiss billboard is making the rounds on social media depicting a young woman on the telephone. The caption reads, "Does the neighbor heat the apartment to over 19 degrees (66F)? Please inform us." While the Swiss government has dismissed the poster as a fake, the penalties Swiss citizens face for daring to warm their homes are very real. According to the Swiss newspaper Blick, those who violate the 66 degree heating limit could face as many as three years in prison!

Prison time for heating your home? In the "free" world? How is it possible in 2022, when Switzerland and the rest of the political west have achieved the greatest economic success in history, that the European continent faces a winter like something out of the dark ages?

Sanctions.

While long promoted – often by those opposed to war – as a less destructive alternative to war, sanctions are in reality acts of war. And as we know with interventionism and war, the result is often unintended consequences and even blowback.

European sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine earlier this year will likely go down in history as a prime example of how sanctions can result in unintended consequences. While seeking to punish Russia by cutting off gas and oil imports, European Union politicians forgot that Europe is completely dependent on Russian energy supplies and that the only people to suffer if those imports are shut down are the Europeans themselves.

The Russians simply pivoted to the south and east and found plenty of new buyers in China, India, and elsewhere. In fact, Russia's state-run Gazprom energy company has reported that its profits have increased by 100 percent in the first half of this year.

Russia is getting rich while Europeans are facing a freezing winter and economic collapse. All because of the false belief that sanctions are a cost-free way to force other countries to do what you want them to do.

What happens when the people see dumb government policies making energy bills skyrocket as the economy grounds to a halt? They become desperate and take to the streets in protest.

This weekend thousands of Austrians took to the streets in a "Freedom Rally" to demand an end to sanctions and the opening of Nord Stream II, the gas pipeline on the verge of opening earlier this year. Last week an estimated 100,000 Czechs took to the streets of Prague to protest NATO and EU policy. In France, the "Yellow Vests" are back in the streets protesting the destruction of their economy in the name of "defeating" Russia in Ukraine. In Germany, Serbia, and elsewhere, protests are gearing up.

Even the Washington Post was forced to admit that sanctions on Russia are not having the intended effect. In an article yesterday, the paper worries that sanctions are inflicting "collateral damage in Russia and beyond, potentially even hurting the very countries that impose them. Some even worried that the sanctions intended to deter and weaken Putin could end up emboldening and strengthening him."

This is all predictable. Sanctions kill. Sometimes they kill innocents in the country targeted for destruction and sometimes they kill innocents in the country imposing them. The solution, as always, is non-intervention. No sanctions, no "color revolutions," no meddling. It's really that simple.
Copyright © 2022 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

I can easily see Europe descend into several civil wars, possibly those coming together into one large one. But even without a civil war, it's time to admit when discussing the economy, the GNP, of Europe, there is no there,there. There is nothing to build there, they are beggars. China is ready to collapse. The U.S if not ready now, will be when we think we can bail out Europe. Russia might be able to survive on selling oil, but I would not be surprised if the civil war in Europe spreads into Russia. If all of this can hold off for two more years, our survival chances shoot way up. Not optimistic at all with Biden.

Quote from: Possum on September 14, 2022, 11:12:44 AMI can easily see Europe descend into several civil wars, possibly those coming together into one large one. But even without a civil war, it's time to admit when discussing the economy, the GNP, of Europe, there is no there,there. There is nothing to build there, they are beggars. China is ready to collapse. The U.S if not ready now, will be when we think we can bail out Europe. Russia might be able to survive on selling oil, but I would not be surprised if the civil war in Europe spreads into Russia. If all of this can hold off for two more years, our survival chances shoot way up. Not optimistic at all with Biden.

Yep, but I have faith Trump will return long before that. There is no way we, or the free world can survive 2 more years of this shit NWO scheme.

I say Europeans should heat the homes of their so called leaders to 1000 degrees fahrenheit.   

Bear with me here guys. Some of you may not appreciate what I am about to say but I will not be offended if you don't. Europe will NOT fail no matter what happens this winter, it could be on the verge of doing so when a charismatic leader in Europe will swoop in and save the day with really smart and innovative thinking and become a world wide hero who can seem to do no wrong. This man will become the Anti-Christ of the Bible who will eventually control the whole world except for China (yes even the USA). I take no joy in saying this and my prediction could very well be years off base, but with the way society is degrading and devolving, I think the time is about right for this to occur. Hopefully the Republicans can win the House and Senate in November to forestall or at least the delay of this happening but if the Dems manage to cheat us out of victory again, it could be a full fledged spring to the finish line for this country and many others. Ok folks, fire away 

"No man knows my coming"
There was a time I thought Trump might be the Anti-christ. Charming, got things done. And with Q, seemed to know everything.

We will just have to see.

Quote from: MichaelJ on September 15, 2022, 02:50:32 PMBear with me here guys. Some of you may not appreciate what I am about to say but I will not be offended if you don't. Europe will NOT fail no matter what happens this winter, it could be on the verge of doing so when a charismatic leader in Europe will swoop in and save the day with really smart and innovative thinking and become a world wide hero who can seem to do no wrong. This man will become the Anti-Christ of the Bible who will eventually control the whole world except for China (yes even the USA). I take no joy in saying this and my prediction could very well be years off base, but with the way society is degrading and devolving, I think the time is about right for this to occur. Hopefully the Republicans can win the House and Senate in November to forestall or at least the delay of this happening but if the Dems manage to cheat us out of victory again, it could be a full fledged spring to the finish line for this country and many others. Ok folks, fire away 

2 Chronicles:

13"When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14if MY PEOPLE, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Quote from: MichaelJ on September 15, 2022, 02:50:32 PMBear with me here guys. Some of you may not appreciate what I am about to say but I will not be offended if you don't. Europe will NOT fail no matter what happens this winter, it could be on the verge of doing so when a charismatic leader in Europe will swoop in and save the day with really smart and innovative thinking and become a world wide hero who can seem to do no wrong. This man will become the Anti-Christ of the Bible who will eventually control the whole world except for China (yes even the USA). I take no joy in saying this and my prediction could very well be years off base, but with the way society is degrading and devolving, I think the time is about right for this to occur. Hopefully the Republicans can win the House and Senate in November to forestall or at least the delay of this happening but if the Dems manage to cheat us out of victory again, it could be a full fledged spring to the finish line for this country and many others. Ok folks, fire away 

Nice derail!

Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2022, 10:57:00 AMI may sticky this thread because it would appear that Europe could be on the verge of a civil war by November if people start freezing to death.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2022/september/12/europe-commits-suicide-by-sanctions/

A Swiss billboard is making the rounds on social media depicting a young woman on the telephone. The caption reads, "Does the neighbor heat the apartment to over 19 degrees (66F)? Please inform us." While the Swiss government has dismissed the poster as a fake, the penalties Swiss citizens face for daring to warm their homes are very real. According to the Swiss newspaper Blick, those who violate the 66 degree heating limit could face as many as three years in prison!

This is absolutely insane. Switzerland is supposed to be one of the sane countries that have it somewhat together.  Instead, the idiots took a knee to the globalist commies to ramp down their nuclear: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/nuclear-energy-strategy-switzerland-russia-ukraine-electricity-renewables/47610154

QuotePrison time for heating your home? In the "free" world? How is it possible in 2022, when Switzerland and the rest of the political west have achieved the greatest economic success in history, that the European continent faces a winter like something out of the dark ages?

Sanctions.

While long promoted – often by those opposed to war – as a less destructive alternative to war, sanctions are in reality acts of war. And as we know with interventionism and war, the result is often unintended consequences and even blowback.

Not sure I agree with the thrust of this.  Sanctions cause major problems if you're not independent.  Sanctions on important stuff, like energy, has consequences if you're dependent on imports from the countries you're attempting to sanction, which is more of a consequence of stupidity than anything.

QuoteEuropean sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine earlier this year will likely go down in history as a prime example of how sanctions can result in unintended consequences. While seeking to punish Russia by cutting off gas and oil imports, European Union politicians forgot that Europe is completely dependent on Russian energy supplies and that the only people to suffer if those imports are shut down are the Europeans themselves.

I disagree with the "politicians forgot" part.  I think this is a direct effect of the Epstein client list, which is how you control government officials around the world.

QuoteThe Russians simply pivoted to the south and east and found plenty of new buyers in China, India, and elsewhere. In fact, Russia's state-run Gazprom energy company has reported that its profits have increased by 100 percent in the first half of this year.

Even better, China has been selling Russia's energy back to Europe at quite the markup...       

QuoteRussia is getting rich while Europeans are facing a freezing winter and economic collapse. All because of the false belief that sanctions are a cost-free way to force other countries to do what you want them to do.

Trump was able to utilize sanctions because he had leverage.  These countries have tiny economies and nothing of life-sustaining value to provide.

QuoteWhat happens when the people see dumb government policies making energy bills skyrocket as the economy grounds to a halt? They become desperate and take to the streets in protest.

Protests have no effect on globalists.  It's when they begin to storm the castles is when the fun starts.

QuoteThis weekend thousands of Austrians took to the streets in a "Freedom Rally" to demand an end to sanctions and the opening of Nord Stream II, the gas pipeline on the verge of opening earlier this year. Last week an estimated 100,000 Czechs took to the streets of Prague to protest NATO and EU policy. In France, the "Yellow Vests" are back in the streets protesting the destruction of their economy in the name of "defeating" Russia in Ukraine. In Germany, Serbia, and elsewhere, protests are gearing up.

Even the Washington Post was forced to admit that sanctions on Russia are not having the intended effect. In an article yesterday, the paper worries that sanctions are inflicting "collateral damage in Russia and beyond, potentially even hurting the very countries that impose them. Some even worried that the sanctions intended to deter and weaken Putin could end up emboldening and strengthening him."

This is all predictable. Sanctions kill. Sometimes they kill innocents in the country targeted for destruction and sometimes they kill innocents in the country imposing them. The solution, as always, is non-intervention. No sanctions, no "color revolutions," no meddling. It's really that simple.

Copyright © 2022 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

Sanctions definitely hurt when you bite the hand that feeds you.

Quote from: MichaelJ on September 15, 2022, 02:50:32 PMBear with me here guys. Some of you may not appreciate what I am about to say but I will not be offended if you don't. Europe will NOT fail no matter what happens this winter, it could be on the verge of doing so when a charismatic leader in Europe will swoop in and save the day with really smart and innovative thinking and become a world wide hero who can seem to do no wrong. This man will become the Anti-Christ of the Bible who will eventually control the whole world except for China (yes even the USA). I take no joy in saying this and my prediction could very well be years off base, but with the way society is degrading and devolving, I think the time is about right for this to occur. Hopefully the Republicans can win the House and Senate in November to forestall or at least the delay of this happening but if the Dems manage to cheat us out of victory again, it could be a full fledged spring to the finish line for this country and many others. Ok folks, fire away 

I think the new king is a good candidate.

Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2022, 03:49:54 AMThis is absolutely insane. Switzerland is supposed to be one of the sane countries that have it somewhat together.  Instead, the idiots took a knee to the globalist commies to ramp down their nuclear: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/nuclear-energy-strategy-switzerland-russia-ukraine-electricity-renewables/47610154
Not sure I agree with the thrust of this.  Sanctions cause major problems if you're not independent.  Sanctions on important stuff, like energy, has consequences if you're dependent on imports from the countries you're attempting to sanction, which is more of a consequence of stupidity than anything.
I disagree with the "politicians forgot" part.  I think this is a direct effect of the Epstein client list, which is how you control government officials around the world.
Even better, China has been selling Russia's energy back to Europe at quite the markup...       
Trump was able to utilize sanctions because he had leverage.  These countries have tiny economies and nothing of life-sustaining value to provide.
Protests have no effect on globalists.  It's when they begin to storm the castles is when the fun starts.

Sanctions definitely hurt when you bite the hand that feeds you.

The left made a mess of everything, but it makes one question, if this wasn't the intended outcome?
Seriously, no one can be this stupid, not even libs, but Commies play the long game, so is this one of their steps towards world Govt?

I think it is, and come winter, we may see the world bank step in and somehow take control, just one of the many steps...

Quote from: Mimsy on September 16, 2022, 12:20:42 PMI think the new king is a good candidate.

I see that you caught that not so obvious reference as well. The "king" may return in "24".

Quote from: Solar on September 16, 2022, 12:36:33 PMThe left made a mess of everything, but it makes one question, if this wasn't the intended outcome?
Seriously, no one can be this stupid, not even libs, but Commies play the long game, so is this one of their steps towards world Govt?

I think it is, and come winter, we may see the world bank step in and somehow take control, just one of the many steps...

I've been tossing that around as well.  They want the crash, but I feel like they wanted to be on another side of it....

Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2022, 04:03:38 AMI've been tossing that around as well.  They want the crash, but I feel like they wanted to be on another side of it....

Agree. The left has been plotting this for decades, with contingency plans up the ass.
But I do believe they never expected the backlash they're getting/
I don't think they expected us here in the US to stand our ground. Fuglosi must be between a rock and an asteroid after having fucked up the NWO.      

Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2022, 04:09:49 AMAgree. The left has been plotting this for decades, with contingency plans up the ass.
But I do believe they never expected the backlash they're getting/
I don't think they expected us here in the US to stand our ground. Fuglosi must be between a rock and an asteroid after having fucked up the NWO.      

    

It seems like Putin threw a monkey-wrench in their timing...