Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:44:05 PMOk then, and since there  is  no possible way that  happens  i assume you are advocating every  republican sit  home  in 2022 so the dems  have  435 house  votes?

Yes, if 2020 isnt well on its way to being reversed by the 2022 election then none of us should vote OR pay taxes, and I will be saying as much IF that time comes, but its most likely to be reversed by then. 

Quote from: ldub23 on August 22, 2021, 06:59:06 AMI see  it different. I think your  illusion of taking  back the WH is a wetdream. The  military  opposed Trump at  every turn when Trump was  in office. The supreme  court isnt  going anywhere near election fraud. There  is zero chance Biden is  going to be forced  out unless  his  own party  forces  him out and then another dem will simply  take  his  place.

Oddly, you think thats true, yet you still think we should vote and try to win IN THE SYSTEM.
That doesnt make logical sense. IF 2020 cant be reversed then we lost the system, we lost at history, we lost america and there is NOTHING WE CAN DO.

Most shills claiming 2020 cannot be reversed at least logically think we are screwed and armed revolt/secession is the only answer. That follows reason and logic at least, even if based off a false premise. You are saying we cannot reverse 2020, yet can still somehow win in 2022, not logical.

If they stole 2020 then we certainly cant win 2022 even if 100% of voters vote trump.
For you to say we cannot reverse 2020 but that somehow we can still win the next election defies reason.

Quote from: T Hunt on August 22, 2021, 08:30:59 AMOddly, you think thats true, yet you still think we should vote and try to win IN THE SYSTEM.
That doesnt make logical sense. IF 2020 cant be reversed then we lost the system, we lost at history, we lost america and there is NOTHING WE CAN DO.

Most shills claiming 2020 cannot be reversed at least logically think we are screwed and armed revolt/secession is the only answer. That follows reason and logic at least, even if based off a false premise. You are saying we cannot reverse 2020, yet can still somehow win in 2022, not logical.

If they stole 2020 then we certainly cant win 2022 even if 100% of voters vote trump.
For you to say we cannot reverse 2020 but that somehow we can still win the next election defies reason.

I absolutely agree with you! If election law can be nullified by the Communist Democrats than, there is no point for a Conservative to ever vote again. If nothing is done, all future elections will be stolen the same as the 2020 election was stolen.

What I hear leftist Democrats claiming is that they can break the law whenever they please at certain times but, the rest of the time they won't. There is no logic, no truth and no belief in this nonsense. It's sort of like saying that we will tolerate a "little" criminality...

Quote from: T Hunt on August 22, 2021, 08:30:59 AMOddly, you think thats true, yet you still think we should vote and try to win IN THE SYSTEM.
That doesnt make logical sense. IF 2020 cant be reversed then we lost the system, we lost at history, we lost america and there is NOTHING WE CAN DO.

Most shills claiming 2020 cannot be reversed at least logically think we are screwed and armed revolt/secession is the only answer. That follows reason and logic at least, even if based off a false premise. You are saying we cannot reverse 2020, yet can still somehow win in 2022, not logical.

If they stole 2020 then we certainly cant win 2022 even if 100% of voters vote trump.
For you to say we cannot reverse 2020 but that somehow we can still win the next election defies reason.

Nothing we can do? Right  now the trend, started by Trump, is  for  more hispanics and  blacks to vote republican. You are the  one saying dont  vote and  let the dems have  50 govs, 100 senators,a nd  435 house  members.

Quote from: T Hunt on August 22, 2021, 08:27:17 AMYes, if 2020 isnt well on its way to being reversed by the 2022 election then none of us should vote OR pay taxes, and I will be saying as much IF that time comes, but its most likely to be reversed by then.

Can you explain how this reversal is going to occur?

It's sort of like the Democrats claim that shutting out illegals who come here illegally is the same as shutting out LEGAL immigrants. It's political nonsense that makes no logical sense to anyone with a brain who can think for themselves.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 22, 2021, 12:55:28 PMNothing we can do? Right  now the trend, started by Trump, is  for  more hispanics and  blacks to vote republican. You are the  one saying dont  vote and  let the dems have  50 govs, 100 senators,a nd  435 house  members.

Im saying that whether you or I or anyone votes or not the results of the 2022 and the 2024 elections have already been determined by the dems. Our votes, or anyones votes, wont matter at all. Thats the consequence of a stolen election.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 22, 2021, 12:56:33 PMCan you explain how this reversal is going to occur?

Thru the states rescinding their electoral votes. At some point once enough have been rescinded certain processes kick in that have nothing to do with the courts.

The only prosecutions we might get before then are those withholding evidence like the maricopa county board holding the modems, at some point they will be arrested for that.

Quote from: T Hunt on August 22, 2021, 09:08:03 PMIm saying that whether you or I or anyone votes or not the results of the 2022 and the 2024 elections have already been determined by the dems. Our votes, or anyones votes, wont matter at all. Thats the consequence of a stolen election.

A fraudulent election means that even if no one voted, the DNC and their media lapdogs would report that "a record number of voters turned out to vote". It's the sort of propaganda that third world dictators like Stalin, Mao or some other banana republican puts out. It is the same thing that happened in the 2020 Presidential election. If we don't correct the fraud now, there will never be another free nor fair election, the Dems will just install whoever they want.

Quote from: RV on August 23, 2021, 05:06:22 AMA fraudulent election means that even if no one voted, the DNC and their media lapdogs would report that "a record number of voters turned out to vote". It's the sort of propaganda that third world dictators like Stalin, Mao or some other banana republican puts out. It is the same thing that happened in the 2020 Presidential election. If we don't correct the fraud now, there will never be another free nor fair election, the Dems will just install whoever they want.

the recall election in California will be a good indication of how far we have come and how far we have to go to have true elections. My gut feeling is California has voted conservative for several years, maybe all the way back to Reagan, but the cheating put the liberals in power.

Quote from: Possum on August 23, 2021, 05:22:57 AMthe recall election in California will be a good indication of how far we have come and how far we have to go to have true elections. My gut feeling is California has voted conservative for several years, maybe all the way back to Reagan, but the cheating put the liberals in power.

Personally, I'm rooting for Larry Elder. I'd like to see Nancy's Nephew out on his behind where he belongs.

Quote from: Possum on August 23, 2021, 05:22:57 AMthe recall election in California will be a good indication of how far we have come and how far we have to go to have true elections. My gut feeling is California has voted conservative for several years, maybe all the way back to Reagan, but the cheating put the liberals in power.

You would be RIGHT! The GOP sold us out, no one knows what kind of deal was made, but the GOP ignored the State as the left defrauded all Ca voters.
I watched it happen, but like all of us, we thought for certain the GOP would take it to court.

At every turn, be it an election, redistricting or bad laws, the GOP pretended to work on our behalf, only to make it worse before they got involved.
It was all obviously planned, right down to forcing Ca hospitals to deliver illegals babies.

It was then that I knew the GOP was just as big an enemy as the communist DNC.

Quote from: RV on August 23, 2021, 06:40:51 AMPersonally, I'm rooting for Larry Elder. I'd like to see Nancy's Nephew out on his behind where he belongs.

Just think if that happens. Cuomo and Newsom retired in the same year.

They're only related by marriage and that was broken by divorce.  Still, they ARE comrades in 'arms' so to speak.  Both work for the downfall of America and their positions of power.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on August 23, 2021, 07:40:58 AMThey're only related by marriage and that was broken by divorce.  Still, they ARE comrades in 'arms' so to speak.  Both work for the downfall of America and their positions of power.

Many on both sides of the isle work for the downfall of America. I go back to the book of Genesis and what it says about humans. It was not human politics that corrupted things so and it's not going to be human politics that will correct things.