Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 10:00:24 AMOk then. We can have an opposition party with 5 governors, 9 senators, and  23 house  members while the dems  have 45 govs. 91 senators, and 415 house members.

You really have no idea of what's about to happen, do you?
How is it, you've been here this many years and still believe the LSM?

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 10:00:24 AMOk then. We can have an opposition party with 5 governors, 9 senators, and  23 house  members while the dems  have 45 govs. 91 senators, and 415 house members.

Yes, thats already the reality! They outnumber us in govt, and we outnumber them among the people.
Voting for a RINO will not change that. Me voting for someone doesnt magically make them on my side.

The ENEMY already controls most of government, its just that half of the enemy is trying to pretend they are our friends so dont act as radical as the other half of our enemy.

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2021, 06:16:47 AMI warned about this very thing nearly a decade ago. It was finally time to stop pretending that voting for your abuser would somehow make them stop abusing.
Though a very dated article, the premise remains the same.

Will America Be Safe With Bunch of 'RINO' At The Helm?

https://newsblaze.com/thoughts/opinions/will-america-be-safe-with-bunch-of-rino-at-helm_23977/

I liken it to the cheap goods debate. Buying cheap, foreign made goods LOOKS like it saves money. LOOKS like it's the way to go. LOOKS like it will all work out in the end. The globalists tell us how "great" it is and how "beneficial" it is for the economies of both countries. The reality is that, businesses go away, jobs go away, benefits go away and unemployment and prices skyrockets. The cost that SEEMED like it was reasonable and cheap suddenly got really expensive, really quick. What is even worse is that America has lost it's ability to manufacture so things like our military needs are no longer purchased or manufactured here. America's enemies get all the jobs, all the benefits, all the employment, the boost to their economy AND can "hide" things that serve THEM rather than US.

Quote from: RV on August 21, 2021, 01:40:56 PMI liken it to the cheap goods debate. Buying cheap, foreign made goods LOOKS like it saves money. LOOKS like it's the way to go. LOOKS like it will all work out in the end. The globalists tell us how "great" it is and how "beneficial" it is for the economies of both countries. The reality is that, businesses go away, jobs go away, benefits go away and unemployment and prices skyrockets. The cost that SEEMED like it was reasonable and cheap suddenly got really expensive, really quick. What is even worse is that America has lost it's ability to manufacture so things like our military needs are no longer purchased or manufactured here. America's enemies get all the jobs, all the benefits, all the employment, the boost to their economy AND can "hide" things that serve THEM rather than US.

Thanks to the likes of our truly first RINO POTUS, Nixon, opening up China, taking us off the gold standard, what could've wrong?
The rest is history, but did we learn then? Nope, after that it was a line of SUCCessive RINO waiting for their turn at stealing from the taxpayers.

I have a feeling this will be the first time in history where the people actually take back the country since its Founding.
People are sick to death of communists in both party's.

Quote from: T Hunt on August 21, 2021, 10:45:26 AMYes, thats already the reality! They outnumber us in govt, and we outnumber them among the people.
Voting for a RINO will not change that. Me voting for someone doesnt magically make them on my side.

The ENEMY already controls most of government, its just that half of the enemy is trying to pretend they are our friends so dont act as radical as the other half of our enemy.

You are  just  plain wrong.Control is the  most  important thing. If the reps  had  218 house  members then we dont get the green new deal among  many other things. Is the rep paty  perfect? Far from it but  i will take them in charge over the  dems  8 days a week.

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2021, 10:22:20 AMYou really have no idea of what's about to happen, do you?
How is it, you've been here this many years and still believe the LSM?

What  is  going to happen? One thing that wont  happen is republicans taking the  house  in 2022 if you  insist  on a  "pure" party  consisting  of  23 house  members. 

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:37:15 PMYou are  just  plain wrong.Control is the  most  important thing. If the reps  had  218 house  members then we dont get the green new deal among  many other things. Is the rep paty  perfect? Far from it but  i will take them in charge over the  dems  8 days a week.

Unless we take back the WH before the 2022 Midterm elections, it matters not who you vote for.
Have you learned nothing?

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:39:28 PMWhat  is  going to happen? One thing that wont  happen is republicans taking the  house  in 2022 if you  insist  on a  "pure" party  consisting  of  23 house  members.

And you know this, How?

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2021, 02:40:36 PMUnless we take back the WH before the 2022 Midterm elections, it matters not who you vote for.
Have you learned nothing?

Ok then, and since there  is  no possible way that  happens  i assume you are advocating every  republican sit  home  in 2022 so the dems  have  435 house  votes?

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:44:05 PMOk then, and since there  is  no possible way that  happens  i assume you are advocating every  republican sit  home  in 2022 so the dems  have  435 house  votes?

Who is going to stop us? Seriously, who is going to stop a million Patriots demanding we dismantle the govt, or that the DNC, collectively go to prison?
The Military? I don't think so, They'll still take orders from Trump, just watch.

Point is, if we were to let them get away with the coup of 2020, there's nothing going to stop them come 2022.
So your illusion of taking back the House or holding the Senate is an interrupted wetdream.

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2021, 02:50:19 PMWho is going to stop us? Seriously, who is going to stop a million Patriots demanding we dismantle the govt, or that the DNC, collectively go to prison?
The Military? I don't think so, They'll still take orders from Trump, just watch.

Point is, if we were to let them get away with the coup of 2020, there's nothing going to stop them come 2022.
So your illusion of taking back the House or holding the Senate is an interrupted wetdream.

I see  it different. I think your  illusion of taking  back the WH is a wetdream. The  military  opposed Trump at  every turn when Trump was  in office. The supreme  court isnt  going anywhere near election fraud. There  is zero chance Biden is  going to be forced  out unless  his  own party  forces  him out and then another dem will simply  take  his  place.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 22, 2021, 06:59:06 AMI see  it different. I think your  illusion of taking  back the WH is a wetdream. The  military  opposed Trump at  every turn when Trump was  in office. The supreme  court isnt  going anywhere near election fraud. There  is zero chance Biden is  going to be forced  out unless  his  own party  forces  him out and then another dem will simply  take  his  place.

The state's themselves are the ones gathering the evidence now. When the states bring their evidence, with their reasons, and the cold hard fact that the states themselves decertified the election, you're damn right the scotus will hear the case.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 22, 2021, 06:59:06 AMI see  it different. I think your  illusion of taking  back the WH is a wetdream. The  military  opposed Trump at  every turn when Trump was  in office. The supreme  court isnt  going anywhere near election fraud. There  is zero chance Biden is  going to be forced  out unless  his  own party  forces  him out and then another dem will simply  take  his  place.

As Possum pointed out, this is not a Federal issue, it's a States Rights issue.
Think about that.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:37:15 PMYou are  just  plain wrong.Control is the  most  important thing. If the reps  had  218 house  members then we dont get the green new deal among  many other things. Is the rep paty  perfect? Far from it but  i will take them in charge over the  dems  8 days a week.

       ok so you think that if the RINO were in charge of the GOP and if the GOP were in charge of the government that SOMEHOW we wouldnt still get the green new deal???

I really hate to break it too you but we are getting the lefts agenda even if the RINOs are in charge. They want the same things in the end as the left, they just say otherwise. Open borders, gun control, climate change, endless wars, those ALL happen under a RINO regime or a dem regime, no difference.

Quote from: ldub23 on August 21, 2021, 02:39:28 PMWhat  is  going to happen? One thing that wont  happen is republicans taking the  house  in 2022 if you  insist  on a  "pure" party  consisting  of  23 house  members.

Whats certain is we wont win in 2022 if 2020 isnt reversed.