Thank you ST for posting this vital video. It opened my eyes and reinforced my decision NOT to get the jab.     

Tell me why again we need to take this vaccine :

QuoteAn Israeli doctor seemingly echoed Sallberg's comments regarding vaccine effectiveness. Speaking to Channel 13 News, Dr. Kobi Haviv warned that the effectiveness of the vaccines are waning. He added that 95 percent of hospitalized Israelis with the most severe symptoms are vaccinated.

So you can still get the virus, spread the virus, get hospitalized with severe symptoms, have to were a mask, social distance, where is the reward part for getting the vaccine?  And now they are talking about 5 shots?? 

QuoteSallberg continued: "After receiving the second dose, the immune response slowly subsides. Within a year, many may have lost their protection. We do not know yet, but if you get a third dose, it will be activated again." He added: "Biology says that a fading immune response is not unlikely. Then it's time to for a third, fourth [or] maybe fifth dose."

It's time to ask, are we following the science or the politician?

Quote from: Possum on August 09, 2021, 02:15:16 PMTell me why again we need to take this vaccine :
So you can still get the virus, spread the virus, get hospitalized with severe symptoms, have to were a mask, social distance, where is the reward part for getting the vaccine?  And now they are talking about 5 shots?? 

It's time to ask, are we following the science or the politician?

The "reward" is that the politicians (i.e. Democrats), feel "powerful" when the gullible swallow their nonsense. Plus the fact that one can die from the "vaccine" so that the Democrats can claim that the person died of "Covid 19". In addition, once the person dies, there is no legal recourse for the family. The "reward" is that everyone who dies from the "vaccine" helps to decrease the population so that the Democrats can claim that population reduction and "global warming" has been reduced.

Are we following "science" or the "politicians"? Why the politicians of course just as the MSM wants the gullible people to...

Obviously a rally going on behind him but interesting information on the numbers. Especially the ones after given the vaccine.   Toy

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/572/345/original/be51bc0d62697512.mp4

Quote from: RV on August 09, 2021, 02:55:46 PMThe "reward" is that the politicians (i.e. Democrats), feel "powerful" when the gullible swallow their nonsense. Plus the fact that one can die from the "vaccine" so that the Democrats can claim that the person died of "Covid 19". In addition, once the person dies, there is no legal recourse for the family. The "reward" is that everyone who dies from the "vaccine" helps to decrease the population so that the Democrats can claim that population reduction and "global warming" has been reduced.

Are we following "science" or the "politicians"? Why the politicians of course just as the MSM wants the gullible people to...

If the liberals get their way, the "reward" for those who take the vaccine will be a special card that will show they are better than us heathens who will not get the jab. they will be special and can shop anywhere or any time while us unvaccinated will have to settle for scrapes. I can see where liberals are getting the feeling of superiority since they sacrificed for the "good of their fellow man" because they did not take the damn vaccine for any health reasons.  Every time I hear "follow the science" I picture a bull with a ring in its nose following the rope as it pulls him along.

Quote from: Possum on August 10, 2021, 06:19:59 AMIf the liberals get their way, the "reward" for those who take the vaccine will be a special card that will show they are better than us heathens who will not get the jab. they will be special and can shop anywhere or any time while us unvaccinated will have to settle for scrapes. I can see where liberals are getting the feeling of superiority since they sacrificed for the "good of their fellow man" because they did not take the damn vaccine for any health reasons.  Every time I hear "follow the science" I picture a bull with a ring in its nose following the rope as it pulls him along.

Ah yes, the "vaccine passports", a liberals wet dream! It will show how "superior" they are, how they have "suffered" for mankind and how they "sacrificed" for others. Why, the gullible may even make them more important than Jesus! If so much evil has come from the Wuhan virus, just imagine what will happen with the mark!

Quote from: Solars Toy on August 10, 2021, 06:10:24 AMObviously a rally going on behind him but interesting information on the numbers. Especially the ones after given the vaccine.  Toy

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/572/345/original/be51bc0d62697512.mp4

Excellent!
This!!! Times 10.000 around the globe. It's all been a huge lie, it's the damn Flu!

https://noqreport.com/2021/08/11/cdc-considers-12-of-the-13-most-vaccinated-countries-a-travel-risk/

QuoteThese mRNA vaccines are not Pepto-Bismol. They have profound biological effects. They are encapsulated in fat particles whose long-term effects are unknown. They spread throughout the body (despite the early promise they would not). They hijack cellular machinery in exactly the same way an actual virus does," according to distinguished science writer Alex Berenson.

Quote"For now, vaccine advocates are clinging to the hope that even if the vaccines do not protect against infection, they still provide some protection against more serious illness and death. I think the jury is still out on that question, but again it is largely irrelevant for this conversation – the Covid wards are filling in Israel, and most people in them are older and vaccinated. If the vaccines do offer any help after a few months against serious illness, it is far less than the 95-99 percent protection that advocates have claimed."

So what have we learned about the vaccine, it does not protect you from getting the virus, you can still spread the virus to others, it does not protect you from severe symptoms, it will not allow society to get back to normal, we do not know what the future side affects will be, even if 100% of the people were vaccinated we would still have the same problem we have now. So why are we being told to get the jab?

Good question, why do they want everyone to get the jab if it's not effective. We have no idea about the long term effect of the jab and what the ramifications of the jab will be. We are seeing some disturbing short term problems, but what we do not know is what we will be seeing this time next year. If we are still around.

My wife and I are jab free and intend to remain that way. If it means we cannot travel or go to a restaurant; so be it.

Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 01:19:57 PMhttps://noqreport.com/2021/08/11/cdc-considers-12-of-the-13-most-vaccinated-countries-a-travel-risk/

So what have we learned about the vaccine, it does not protect you from getting the virus, you can still spread the virus to others, it does not protect you from severe symptoms, it will not allow society to get back to normal, we do not know what the future side affects will be, even if 100% of the people were vaccinated we would still have the same problem we have now. So why are we being told to get the jab?

It's more than just being told to get the "vaccine", in many places they are using FORCE to make people take it whether they want to or not. Despite the media using EVERY opportunity to claim how "safe" and "effective" it is, (all lies), they will have to kill me before I will take it! There is no question that it is all political and that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with health, containment nor "safety" as they keep claiming.

Quote from: tac on August 11, 2021, 05:44:01 PMGood question, why do they want everyone to get the jab if it's not effective. We have no idea about the long term effect of the jab and what the ramifications of the jab will be. We are seeing some disturbing short term problems, but what we do not know is what we will be seeing this time next year. If we are still around.

My wife and I are jab free and intend to remain that way. If it means we cannot travel or go to a restaurant; so be it.

I'll listen to the news that my wife has on while I'm on the computer. The lsm no longer talks about the promises of the vaccine, only the need to take it. There is literally hate in their voices when the talk is about the ones who will not take the jab, but there is no talk to justify why to take it. They will talk about new numbers which the radio talk shows will then blow apart and tell why they are false. At least there is less talk about "follow the science" as there is no longer any science left to show why we should be taking the vaccine.

Dr. Fauci and the CDC readily admit that the vaccine is effective for only 2 to perhaps 6 months. Hence upcoming booster shots. So...anyone vaccinated prior to the first of the year likely are no longer truly vaccinated against it. Why are these people allowed to keep their jobs while those that had COVID and still have antibodies are going to be terminated? Any honest doctor will tell you that it is more than likely the antibodies could last a lifetime but certainly longer than those acquired by vaccination. But the main point is that many that were vaccinated are no better off now than the unvaccinated.

Ok, so here are questions that I have had since the very beginning that so far, neither I nor anyone else has been able to answer. My questions are, does the law no longer mean anything? Does the U.S. Constitution no longer mean anything? When a person is dragged into a court of LAW for violating a "mandate" or "rule" what happens?

Can a person be arrested for obeying the law but, violating a "mandate" or "rule"? There is supposedly a statute somewhere that says that "ignorance" of the law is no excuse, does that also apply where "mandates" and "rules" are concerned? Where is that written? Can the state or federal government just govern by "mandate" or "rule" and the public has to abide by whatever their "mandate" or "rule" is? If say, slavery or some other discriminatory practice were "mandated", would that carry the same weight as a law? Does law enforcement have to enforce "mandates" and "rules" the same as "laws"?

If the answers are "No" that "mandates" and "rules" are NOT enforceable, then why are people following the bogus "mandates" and "rules"? If the answers are "Yes" that "mandates" and "rules" ARE enforceable, then why have laws and the U.S. Constitution?

Quote from: RV on August 12, 2021, 05:29:54 AMOk, so here are questions that I have had since the very beginning that so far, neither I nor anyone else has been able to answer. My questions are, does the law no longer mean anything? Does the U.S. Constitution no longer mean anything? When a person is dragged into a court of LAW for violating a "mandate" or "rule" what happens?

Can a person be arrested for obeying the law but, violating a "mandate" or "rule"? There is supposedly a statute somewhere that says that "ignorance" of the law is no excuse, does that also apply where "mandates" and "rules" are concerned? Where is that written? Can the state or federal government just govern by "mandate" or "rule" and the public has to abide by whatever their "mandate" or "rule" is? If say, slavery or some other discriminatory practice were "mandated", would that carry the same weight as a law? Does law enforcement have to enforce "mandates" and "rules" the same as "laws"?

If the answers are "No" that "mandates" and "rules" are NOT enforceable, then why are people following the bogus "mandates" and "rules"? If the answers are "Yes" that "mandates" and "rules" ARE enforceable, then why have laws and the U.S. Constitution?

If for no other reason, it's all about media consumption. The Marxists know what they're doing is unconstitutional and illegal, but they do it anyway, because they know they will never be held personally responsible.

But it makes for great deception, they know the masses will believe whatever they're shown on TV, so it's just one more level of control over the masses.
I think this meme says it all.