Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AMI dont think thats true. Seems to me many many have died from the vaccine, and those who dont have had weird nasty side effects. People have metal sticking to the injection site, thats very very weird.

On top of that the left and the deepstate are pushing it. Does that count for nothing?

Hey, he knows... Those stats and TV pundits never lie, so he educated himself by watching yet even more propaganda pushed by the drug companies who would never lie either.

AS much info that has been released since this all began and young people still think they are in danger from a bug that effects the old and sick disproportionally compared to the healthy and they think they are protecting others by getting the jab?

Is it any wonder the Marxist were able to dupe an entire generation in such a short amount of time?

Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:08:08 AMSo, in other words, you're a gambler with the lives of children over a bug that effects virtually none of them?

What you claim to be stats and research is akin to watching a University from a space satellite and claiming you're educated.
Their fuckin data is skewed beyond belief, they created a "vaccine" before they created a disease and you trust the data?

I think you need to stick to the sports forum, where cheating never occurs.    

Weak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AMI dont think thats true. Seems to me many many have died from the vaccine, and those who dont have had weird nasty side effects. People have metal sticking to the injection site, thats very very weird.

On top of that the left and the deepstate are pushing it. Does that count for nothing?

"Many have died from the vaccine" .... that's what my brother says also.  "Nasty side effects" ....  there are some, just like with the tetanus shot I got two days ago.

"Metal sticking" .... yep, the planets now rotate at my discretion.  Sorry.

The left pushes it because it got Biden elected.  Sometimes I have to put politics aside to decide what is right for me and how I live to my standards.

If you think it's wrong .. don't do it.  Simple.

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:27:06 AMWeak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.

I had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.

Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:33:59 AMI had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.

Responded already, but it didn't post.  Likely my computer.

If you already had Covid, that is most likely as good as the shot.  "They" say 90 days, but that is a SWAG and based on other diseases.  Covid is adapting, and only time will tell.

So, with a very good retirment, I plan on making the most of it.  I plan to capitalize on the dollars.  The long term is why I got the shots.   As posted, kids are resilient, those who refuse to get vaccinated risk those lives, but it is a low percentage.

To your point of being a gambler ... we all are.  I have gambled that the vaccine is safe enough for me to get the shots and collect the retirement.  You gambled the opposite line.   

I think your thoughts on ventilators, your thoughts on drugs to use after contracting the disease are spot on.

I will also take the 3rd dose when available as a booster and delta variant prohibitor.

Not a doctor, but smart enough to know what is and is not a hazard.

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:27:06 AMWeak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.

The question in my mind is "who" it may "help"... Certainly not the victim!

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:55:59 AMResponded already, but it didn't post.  Likely my computer.

If you already had Covid, that is most likely as good as the shot.  "They" say 90 days, but that is a SWAG and based on other diseases.  Covid is adapting, and only time will tell.

Most of the West Coast had it long before the left used it as a scare tactic.
The CCP flu is not adapting nor is it mutating. Had you been following the stats as you claim, you'd notice the only people catching these numerous variants, are the people stupid enough to take the jab.

It's the Jab that caused these variants. This is what happens when people think that playing lab rat is safe.
Did you think to ask, just how long this Jab will continue on in your body and what the sideeffects are long-term?

QuoteSo, with a very good retirment, I plan on making the most of it.  I plan to capitalize on the dollars.  The long term is why I got the shots.  As posted, kids are resilient, those who refuse to get vaccinated risk those lives, but it is a low percentage.

Did you think to ask about shedding?

QuoteTo your point of being a gambler ... we all are.  I have gambled that the vaccine is safe enough for me to get the shots and collect the retirement.  You gambled the opposite line.

Over a disease with a .3 chance of death, for a Jab that protects you just as well with an equal percentage rate of protection @ 97%.
Meaning, you had the same odds had you left it to your immune system to deal with it.
Instead, you injected your immune system with an unproven experimental drug.

QuoteI think your thoughts on ventilators, your thoughts on drugs to use after contracting the disease are spot on.

I will also take the 3rd dose when available as a booster and delta variant prohibitor.

Not a doctor, but smart enough to know what is and is not a hazard.

Ask your doctor about shedding before you venture any further. If you believe the first two helped, why a third? Are you really that trusting of a corporation disguised as a govt entity, that you'd risk your life and the lives of those around you?

Keep in mind, this was developed in a communist lab by people Hell bent on lowering the amount of those living today, who patented the virus as well as the  so called "Prevention".

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:31:02 AM"Many have died from the vaccine" .... that's what my brother says also.  "Nasty side effects" ....  there are some, just like with the tetanus shot I got two days ago.

I was in the army and have been stuck many many times, as have my brothers. Never has it done what this vaccine is doing to people.

Quote"Metal sticking" .... yep, the planets now rotate at my discretion.  Sorry.

What does metal sticking to the spot have to do with planets?
So you dont have any answer to why metal sticking is a good thing?

QuoteThe left pushes it because it got Biden elected.  Sometimes I have to put politics aside to decide what is right for me and how I live to my standards.

Yet they are STILL pushing it, so the biden reason doesnt work.
Why are they still pushing a vaccine for a hoax of a virus which has killed less than 9000?

QuoteIf you think it's wrong .. don't do it.  Simple.

Its not wrong or right. The question is whether its safe or not, and whether it is an attack on our citizens by a foreign country.

Should I just sit back and allow my fellow citizens to be harmed by the deepstate?

Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:33:59 AMI had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.

Turns out my 2 of my brothers up in MN got the vaccine. They had also had the virus last year. They suffered more from the vaccine than they did from the virus itself.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 10:15:04 AMTurns out my 2 of my brothers up in MN got the vaccine. They had also had the virus last year. They suffered more from the vaccine than they did from the virus itself.

Sadly that's happening around the globe, be it facial paralysis or legions, the damage to the heart seems to be a permanent effect, and since it's so new, no one knows what's next.

Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 10:38:34 AMSadly that's happening around the globe, be it facial paralysis or legions, the damage to the heart seems to be a permanent effect, and since it's so new, no one knows what's next.

Both the wife and I have had the "virus" and we both survived. The Democrats and their media lapdogs keep trying to push the disinformation that somehow the "vaccine" does more than the body does naturally. If I had any doubt about Democrat (with NO medical degree, education nor experience), intentions (I didn't), the fact that the Democrats were pushing the "vaccine" confirmed for me that money and politics not health was behind all of it.

Quote from: RV on July 15, 2021, 02:51:05 PMBoth the wife and I have had the "virus" and we both survived. The Democrats and their media lapdogs keep trying to push the disinformation that somehow the "vaccine" does more than the body does naturally. If I had any doubt about Democrat (with NO medical degree, education nor experience), intentions (I didn't), the fact that the Democrats were pushing the "vaccine" confirmed for me that money and politics not health was behind all of it.

Spot on!!!
Same here, it was just another nasty Flu/cold.

Quote from: RV on July 15, 2021, 08:58:01 AMThe question in my mind is "who" it may "help"... Certainly not the victim!

For me to get the "vaccine", I would have to trust Fauci, the same "Dr." who has changed his mind several times. I would have to trust the government who shut down the economy when it has been proven that did not work, I would have to trust the the states that packed the nursing homes with infected patients in order to boost the number of deaths by the thousands did not happen, I would have to ignore the fact that the median age of death from the virus is 84, I would have to forget all the recorded "deaths" attributed to the vaccine when the person dies of other causes, I would have to trust all the lies the msm hit us with nightly, and I would have to trust that biden know what is best for me. I believe taking the vaccine is up to the individual, after all this is still America, and I would have to believe that biden agrees with that statement. Can't do it.