Quote from: p1tchblack on July 03, 2021, 12:33:38 PMI was referring to the baseless panic over the fear of trump nuking the world.

The dems and MSM manufactured the entire russiagate hoax without a single piece of hard evidence. Thats a far cry from what we are doing here by calling out bidens incompetency and his criminal admissions.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 02, 2021, 12:22:11 PMI didn't see the world evil in the document you linked below.

So, you don't want serious discussion, I see.

QuoteI read the first 4 pages and didn't see anything terrible.  I also didn't find any of the three tenets of CRT to be terribly concerning.  I don't find CRT to be useful, and probably does the opposite of what we should want as a country, but I'd be curious to see some of the actual examples of areas where "radical institutional changes" would need to happen.

Yet you fail to miss the obvious, that somehow this supposed racism is everyone elses' fault.
The only racism comes from the left you fuckin lying troll!

QuoteI provided one example of something I would think might be in the CRT purview based on my limited knowledge of CRT.
I was completely upfront about my lack of indepth  knowledge regarding CRT, so I'm not entire sure what you're getting at here.

Yet you see fit to defend it. That's known as a knee jerk liberal response mechanism.

QuoteOk.  Do we not teach Marism, Communism, etc in college?  Again, I'm not saying I support what CRT is teaching, I'm simply making the case (despite your continued attempts to drag the discussion into the mud), that I think CRT is something that could be taught in the appropriate university environment or class.

Yes, and it used to be taught as a failure to a free state, not as a potential replacement for capitalism.

QuoteIn case any part of my comments have been unclear.... I don't support antifa or what they stand for.  I support the police reform that BLM initially was focused on, but don't support the violence, looting etc that sometimes comes along with BLM events.  You're welcome to show find all the posts where I commented on BLM and post them... just in case I'm trying to fool anyone.

More stupidity from the left!
BlM was never about reform or making things better you dumb Ass! They hate, that's it, they are a hate based group!

QuoteThe funny part is that I could link to a far left website where posters partake of the same broad-brush demonization of Conservatives/the Right.  They're just as wrong as everyone here, but this is what happens when you only choose to get one side of the story and allow yourselves to be lead down a path to demonization.

Difference being, we're condemning the overthrow of our country, while the left sees no issue with it.

QuoteAgain, I wouldn't expect Dems to condemn the entire BLM or Antifa organizations and more than I would expect Republicans to condemn the ENTIRE Republican party based on the actions of a few thousand people on Jan. 6th.  Intelligent people condemn actions, not people. I don't condemn all muslims, I condemn violent muslim extremists.

Cut the straw man shit! We're far more intelligent than your run of the mill lib. Lib!

QuoteAgain, I do not care about the political angle of this.

You should, Communists are trying to takeover your country, IDIOT!!!

QuoteI said, and will continue to say, that I don't see a reason that CRT shouldn't be discussed/taught in college just as other theories, governments, etc are.  Sorry, I'm not going to be dragged into the mud on this.

Consider this. We take back the country, demand that everyone be treated the same regardless of color or ethnicity, that no one is responsible for the sins of the father. By the way, that's in the Constitution
That's not what CRT is doing, but CRT is seeking special Rights. They are blaming white people for everything in the world. And you don't have a problem with that?

QuoteIt's not very Christian to accuse some one of lying with no evidence.

So fuck you! Talk about an underhanded stunt, playing the religion card. I have news for ya son, I'm not Christian! But I wouldn't have expected anything less from a commie. Yeah, you fool no one!
 

QuoteAgain, I'm not supporting CRT, I'm supporting it, as a theory, being taught under the right situation in college.  I see no reason to continue responding to "the mud" you want to drag this conversation into.  I don't buy into your broad-brush demonization.  I don't buy into you assertations that the entire Dem party is Marxist and Socialist.  I also don't buy into the same attitude I see from Democrats/the Left about Republicans/conservatives.  I think it's an absolutely uninformed, dangerous way to look at things and it's precisely why the country is becoming so divided.  You have news outlets demonizing entire groups of people because there's one loon here and there.

I stopped at "I'm supporting it", that's akin to saying I support the idea of communism.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 03, 2021, 10:01:56 PMThe dems and MSM manufactured the entire russiagate hoax without a single piece of hard evidence. Thats a far cry from what we are doing here by calling out bidens incompetency and his criminal admissions.

Completely beside the point. Democrats had their attempt at creating unnecessary fear about Trump having access to the button, and now Republicans are doing the same thing. All partisan nonsense.

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2021, 07:02:39 AMI stopped at "I'm supporting it", that's akin to saying I support the idea of communism.

This entire discussion can be summarized in one statement:

You aren't acknowledging the difference between teaching something and teaching about something.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 12:32:10 PMThis entire discussion can be summarized in one statement:

You aren't acknowledging the difference between teaching something and teaching about something.

Know, you fail to grasp the meaning and difference between teaching and indoctrination!
This has absolutely nothing to do with teaching!

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 12:32:10 PMThis entire discussion can be summarized in one statement:

You aren't acknowledging the difference between teaching something and teaching about something.

We are...

Teaching about slavery as a worldwide problem with factual information is one thing. Teaching slavery as a only White, American problem is agenda driven.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 04, 2021, 12:53:37 PMWe are...

Teaching about slavery as a worldwide problem with factual information is one thing. Teaching slavery as a only White, American problem is agenda driven.

You are certainly welcome to your opinion of how things should be taught. The fact remains, that the group fear that teaching about something is indoctrination is only an opinion.  Again, I don't want this stuff taught anywhere near a public school, only at the University level in an appropriate class.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 01:00:55 PMYou are certainly welcome to your opinion of how things should be taught. The fact remains, that the group fear that teaching about something is indoctrination is only an opinion.  Again, I don't want this stuff taught anywhere near a public school, only at the University level in an appropriate class.

We don't want it taught anywhere. Revisionist, agenda driven indoctrination is evil at any age or level.

And, it is not opinion. There are facts that support us. Just because you don't agree, it doesn't mean we are wrong.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 04, 2021, 01:48:22 PMWe don't want it taught anywhere. Revisionist, agenda driven indoctrination is evil at any age or level.

And, it is not opinion. There are facts that support us. Just because you don't agree, it doesn't mean we are wrong.

Sure, YOU may not want it taught anywhere, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be. It's ok to teach controversial ideas.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 02:19:11 PMSure, YOU may not want it taught anywhere, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be. It's ok to teach controversial ideas.

Difference between controversial and evil. Difference between teaching history and brainwashing with revised history.

These young people come out of school and can't even count. They are not even teaching cursive writing. How are they supposed to sign their paychecks? They are not even being taught the basics. I had to learn my times table, learn how to fill out a check, and know the difference between there, their, and they're.

We don't need to fill their heads with ideas that America is worse than it is. We made mistakes. We fixed them. It's done. Nobody in America today is a slave owner nor a slave. I don't owe you anything nor are you owed anything. It's done. Think America is that bad? Get the fuck out. Find somewhere that supports your ideology. Think you have it tough being gay in America? Go to Islamic countries. Big difference between not getting some cake, and being hung for existing.

We are all free citizens. If you want to be enslaved in the mind, that is not our problem. It's yours.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 02:19:11 PMSure, YOU may not want it taught anywhere, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be. It's ok to teach controversial ideas.

Crt is based on lies, that should not be taught.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 01:00:55 PMYou are certainly welcome to your opinion of how things should be taught. The fact remains, that the group fear that teaching about something is indoctrination is only an opinion.  Again, I don't want this stuff taught anywhere near a public school, only at the University level in an appropriate class.

Everything you have posted has just been your opinion. The only facts in this discussion have been the ones you have been given.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 04, 2021, 03:11:23 PMDifference between controversial and evil. Difference between teaching history and brainwashing with revised history.

These young people come out of school and can't even count. They are not even teaching cursive writing. How are they supposed to sign their paychecks? They are not even being taught the basics. I had to learn my times table, learn how to fill out a check, and know the difference between there, their, and they're.

We don't need to fill their heads with ideas that America is worse than it is. We made mistakes. We fixed them. It's done. Nobody in America today is a slave owner nor a slave. I don't owe you anything nor are you owed anything. It's done. Think America is that bad? Get the fuck out. Find somewhere that supports your ideology. Think you have it tough being gay in America? Go to Islamic countries. Big difference between not getting some cake, and being hung for existing.

We are all free citizens. If you want to be enslaved in the mind, that is not our problem. It's yours.

So much hyperbole, demonization and baseless broad-brush generalization.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 04, 2021, 03:54:13 PMSo much hyperbole, demonization and baseless broad-brush generalization.

Quote from: Possum on July 04, 2021, 03:47:12 PMEverything you have posted has just been your opinion. The only facts in this discussion have been the ones you have been given.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 02, 2021, 01:45:43 PMAs I said earlier in this very thread...I haven't voted for a Democrat for President since Clinton's first term.  I also have never voted for Biden, Hillary or Trump.

You lie...

You are defending Critical Race Theory like you are hardcore lefty Democrat.