Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 09:30:01 AMAbsolutely and the fact that you think that shows how much you've fallen victim to the broad-brush demonization that happens both way.  Again, I could direct you to a website RIGHT NOW where Liberals demonize ALL Republicans on a daily basis.

Founded in 1865, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party's Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for Black Americans. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and Black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s.
https://www.history.com/topics/reconstruction/ku-klux-klan

QuoteI've seen Democrats condemn the violence of BLM and ANTIFA.  Should they do it more?  Probably.
I know that the Democrat party was tied to support for slavery.  What we don't know if how many people left/joined the party when that happened.

Not on leftist media, you haven't.

 

QuoteI stopped voting Republican when Trump was the nominee. Prior to that I voted for Romney, McCain, W twice and George Bush at least once. IF, for some reason, the Republican party decided to support priests diddling little boys, I would leave the party and never look back.  We have no idea if something similar happened during slavery and I can't think of anything I care less about, TODAY, than that.I'm actually not.  I'm trying to point out that broad-brush painting that happens on the internet that wrongly lumps every Democrat or every Republican in with the extremists on either side.  It's honestly baffling to me that people don't see how flawed is that way of thinking.

Kneeling for the National Anthem, men competing in females sports, riots nd looting solely in blue cities.
I could go on and on for days, you see none of this on the Right, this is a leftist created plot to destroy American culture, so I'll ask again, why are you playing Devil's advocate for the left?

Seriously, how old are you? I'm guessing possibly, 20 something?

Quote from: Solar on June 28, 2021, 09:39:09 AMKneeling for the National Anthem, men competing in females sports, riots nd looting solely in blue cities.
I could go on and on for days, you see none of this on the Right, this is a leftist created plot to destroy American culture, so I'll ask again, why are you playing Devil's advocate for the left?

Seriously, how old are you? I'm guessing possibly, 20 something?

Of ALL the democrat athletes in the US, what percentage would you guess have knelt for the national anthem?  1%?  2%? 5% How would a small amount of individuals kneeling "destroy the country"?

Also, while I don't agree with kneeling for the NA, I 100% support the right to do it.  How many Democrats support kneeling?  If you say "They all do", what is your basis for that belief?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 09:19:19 AMDo you keep track of every Republican in congress to make sure they have condemned the violence of BLM and ANTIFA?  I follow politics moderately closely, and I doubt I've heard/seen a quote from more than a handful of Republicans.  Should I assume that they all passively support BLM and ANTIFA violence?

While a number of GOP members have called out the groups, that was not the question. Can you name one democrat who has?

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 28, 2021, 10:52:18 AMWhile a number of GOP members have called out the groups, that was not the question. Can you name one democrat who has?

On the previous page you said:

"Can you name a democrat who has called out antifa or BLM? That is passive support."

So, if a Republican is not on record as calling out antifa or blm, can I assume that would be seen as passive support?

I've seen many Dems speak out against the violence.  Here a quotes from Biden about the violence surrounding some BLM protests related to the George Floyd incident:

On May 29, he told CNN that people "have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn't going to answer the question."

On May 31, he wrote in a statement on Medium that protesting police brutality is "right and necessary" and "an utterly American response."

"But burning down communities and needless destruction is not," Biden wrote. "Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not."

On June 2, in a speech in Philadelphia, recorded by ABC News, Biden said there is "no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses."

"We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction," he said.

Were you aware of any of these?  If not, why do you think that is the case?

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 26, 2021, 02:28:37 PMShould we not teach kids about the Nazis, Muslim extremismand white supremacy, also?

You forgot communists

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 09:30:01 AMAbsolutely and the fact that you think that shows how much you've fallen victim to the broad-brush demonization that happens both way.  Again, I could direct you to a website RIGHT NOW where Liberals demonize ALL Republicans on a daily basis.I've seen Democrats condemn the violence of BLM and ANTIFA.  Should they do it more?  Probably.
I know that the Democrat party was tied to support for slavery.  What we don't know if how many people left/joined the party when that happened.  I stopped voting Republican when Trump was the nominee. Prior to that I voted for Romney, McCain, W twice and George Bush at least once. IF, for some reason, the Republican party decided to support priests diddling little boys, I would leave the party and never look back.  We have no idea if something similar happened during slavery and I can't think of anything I care less about, TODAY, than that.I'm actually not.  I'm trying to point out that broad-brush painting that happens on the internet that wrongly lumps every Democrat or every Republican in with the extremists on either side.  It's honestly baffling to me that people don't see how flawed is that way of thinking.

Let's see you name them. I betting here you can't just like you can not name any acts of white supremacy that you keep referring to.

Quote from: Solar on June 25, 2021, 06:47:47 PM       
Now, if they will only face the reality, that there's only two genders.

Now that's just crazy talk! 

Quote from: Possum on June 28, 2021, 11:27:20 AMLet's see you name them. I betting here you can't just like you can not name any acts of white supremacy that you keep referring to.

Well, I posted several quotes just from Biden on this page, just a few posts above yours. Were you aware of any of those?

Here's some more examples:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

USA today.  Really reliable source.

Have any of them explicitly pointed at BLM/ANTIFA?  NO.

Just a generic claim they are against violence without the morality to point fingers.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 11:56:25 AMWell, I posted several quotes just from Biden on this page, just a few posts above yours. Were you aware of any of those?

Here's some more examples:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 10:59:04 AMOn the previous page you said:

"Can you name a democrat who has called out antifa or BLM? That is passive support."

So, if a Republican is not on record as calling out antifa or blm, can I assume that would be seen as passive support?

I've seen many Dems speak out against the violence.  Here a quotes from Biden about the violence surrounding some BLM protests related to the George Floyd incident:

On May 29, he told CNN that people "have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn't going to answer the question."

On May 31, he wrote in a statement on Medium that protesting police brutality is "right and necessary" and "an utterly American response."

"But burning down communities and needless destruction is not," Biden wrote. "Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not."

On June 2, in a speech in Philadelphia, recorded by ABC News, Biden said there is "no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses."

"We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction," he said.

Were you aware of any of these?  If not, why do you think that is the case?

I am well aware of those general statements, but none of them called names antifa or BLM.

Now answer the damn question! I am not a neophyte at this and you are proving your troll status.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 28, 2021, 12:07:10 PMI am well aware of those general statements, but none of them called names antifa or BLM.

Now answer the damn question! I am not a neophyte at this and you are proving your troll status.

There's no reason to call out ALL of BLM. The majority of BLM protests/protestors are not violent. There is no reason to label ALL of BLM as violent, just as there no basis for labeling ALL democrats or ALL Republicans as any one thing...

I provided you several quotes from Biden condemning the rioting, looting and burning. 

Here are more quotes from Democrats, but the bigger issue is that these things need to be pointed out.  Anyone who legitimately tries to be well informed would know that Dems have condemned the violence, but I suspect there's no attempt my most of the people here to even glance at the other side to confirm that what they're being told is accurate. It's all demonization and mass labeling and it goes both ways.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 12:19:33 PMThere's no reason to call out ALL of BLM. The majority of BLM protests/protestors are not violent. There is no reason to label ALL of BLM as violent, just as there no basis for labeling ALL democrats or ALL Republicans as any one thing...

I provided you several quotes from Biden condemning the rioting, looting and burning. 

Here are more quotes from Democrats, but the bigger issue is that these things need to be pointed out.  Anyone who legitimately tries to be well informed would know that Dems have condemned the violence, but I suspect there's no attempt my most of the people here to even glance at the other side to confirm that what they're being told is accurate. It's all demonization and mass labeling and it goes both ways.

You are still dancing and digging. You cleverly attempted to use the term "all" about BLM and totally ignored antifa. Do you think BLM has not been infiltrated by leftist anarchists?

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 28, 2021, 12:31:20 PMYou are still dancing and digging. You cleverly attempted to use the term "all" about BLM and totally ignored antifa. Do you think BLM has not been infiltrated by leftist anarchists?

I don't know what to tell you. I specifically looked for quotes related to protesting violence and provided several examples of Dems condemning it.  I believe there are bad, violent people in BLM just as there are bad, violent people in the Democratic Party, Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Green Party, NFL, MLB, MLS, NBA, M.A.D.D., the Catholic Church, Alcoholics Anonymous, etc.  I also suspect there are people who ride the coattails of peaceful BLM protests, who intend to cause trouble.

I don't know if there is a redeeming side to ANTIFA, but even if I provided comments from Dems about that, I suspect the goal post would simply be moved again. 

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 11:56:25 AMWell, I posted several quotes just from Biden on this page, just a few posts above yours. Were you aware of any of those?

Here's some more examples:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

Better read your post again, they did not mention antifa or blm. Nice try though. Now can you name any democrat who has condemned antifa or blm? Can you name acts of the white supremacy you refer to?

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 12:47:51 PMI don't know what to tell you. I specifically looked for quotes related to protesting violence and provided several examples of Dems condemning it.  I believe there are bad, violent people in BLM just as there are bad, violent people in the Democratic Party, Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Green Party, NFL, MLB, MLS, NBA, M.A.D.D., the Catholic Church, Alcoholics Anonymous, etc.  I also suspect there are people who ride the coattails of peaceful BLM protests, who intend to cause trouble.

I don't know if there is a redeeming side to ANTIFA, but even if I provided comments from Dems about that, I suspect the goal post would simply be moved again.

Sorry no cigar, there have been several instances in cities where antifa and blm have looted and destroyed and the democrats will not condemn them. Now to add to the other examples I have requested you name, here is one more, name one instance where someone representing the republicans looted and burned down property. You said there were also violent republicans, lets see you list the instance.