Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.

I would also like to see you answer Taxed's question on who will this civil war be between? Surly you are not indicating that BLM, and might as well throw antifa in with that, will be fighting in a civil war? They only demonstrate in liberal safe zones where they can burn and steal all they want and the local government talks about de-funding the police. Do you think they are willing to die for their cause? Can you show me where they even back Biden? 

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:52:45 AMQuote from a woke psychiatrist in another discussion here:

See what I mean?

So?

Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:20:13 AMThankfully there's not that many of them.  We only care about the overwhelming majority of Trump voters.  Dem voters are irrelevant.

Again, small minority.

Maybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant, and maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted, but I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power. I also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:00:53 AMAlmost nobody I know here in NJ believes that, and I don't believe that anything we say will convince them.

Looks like they really hate him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMovNDyayoU

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:32:28 AMMaybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant,

Trump won New Jersey.

Quoteand maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted,

You can be allowed to vote and be allowed, but only if you're legal, breathing, a citizen in New Jersey, etc.

Quotebut I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power.

That's where we differ. I don't fear the anti-American, Marxist majority.  Trump won all 50 states, and won big.  Why would I have fear of that?

QuoteI also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?

Who cares about the MSM?  Trump won big in 2016, and won even bigger in 2020, despite the MSM.

They are irrelevant.

Quote from: Possum on June 05, 2021, 08:29:02 AMI would also like to see you answer Taxed's question on who will this civil war be between? Surly you are not indicating that BLM, and might as well throw antifa in with that, will be fighting in a civil war? They only demonstrate in liberal safe zones where they can burn and steal all they want and the local government talks about de-funding the police. Do you think they are willing to die for their cause? Can you show me where they even back Biden?

You think they will just quietly accept the person that the MSM has convinced them is the American antiChrist being reinstated against their will? Maybe, but from what I am seeing and hearing from the people around me, I'm not so sure. I think we should be bracing for a widespread violent backlash. Maybe that's what's needed though, a purge of the woke and the progressives.

             

Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:38:01 AMTrump won New Jersey.
You can be allowed to vote and be allowed, but only if you're legal, breathing, a citizen in New Jersey, etc.
That's where we differ. I don't fear the anti-American, Marxist majority.  Trump won all 50 states, and won big.  Why would I have fear of that?
Who cares about the MSM?  Trump won big in 2016, and won even bigger in 2020, despite the MSM.

They are irrelevant.

I must live in some kind of a bubble because nobody I know here in NJ believes that Trump won NJ. But that's why I sought you guys out, to fortify me against the crazed masses.

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:44:00 AMI must live in some kind of a bubble because nobody I know here in NJ believes that Trump won NJ. But that's why I sought you guys out, to fortify me against the crazed masses.

It's OK... this will be a massive red-pill event for the country overall because it's so bad that it's hard for people to believe.

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:32:28 AMMaybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant, and maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted, but I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power. I also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?

I guarantee trump has a plan and has known this situation was coming years ago.

As to who will deliver the message, trump will be launching his own social media to get around big tech censorship and will again be speaking direct to the people.

Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:48:11 AMIt's OK... this will be a massive red-pill event for the country overall because it's so bad that it's hard for people to believe.

You wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:39:09 AMYou think they will just quietly accept the person that the MSM has convinced them is the American antiChrist being reinstated against their will? Maybe, but from what I am seeing and hearing from the people around me, I'm not so sure. I think we should be bracing for a widespread violent backlash. Maybe that's what's needed though, a purge of the woke and the progressives.

But are they willing to lay down their lives? Because it sounds like that is what you are suggesting they will do...

These people HATE america so are they really willing to lay down their lives to defend it from tyrant trump?


We patriots are the monsters in the night, the crocodiles beneath the water, while the left are the stubborn zebras, the children throwing a temper tantrum who then turn around and cry for mommy when things get to tough.

We on the right are far more lethal, violent, and crazy in the defense of our country than the left. It is us you should be afraid of, not the left.

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:59:29 AMYou wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.

Its not. Thats why most americans accept it.

Whats hard is penetrating the lefts thick skulls, which have been hardened by the MSM and the colleges to resist all truth and reality.

Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:59:29 AMYou wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.

True, but it's the largest and most complex crime in our history.  I'm able to follow the technical side of it, but most people can't, understandably.  It's a lot, and you have to have every angle covered.

Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2021, 09:02:41 AMIts not. Thats why most americans accept it.

Whats hard is penetrating the lefts thick skulls, which have been hardened by the MSM and the colleges to resist all truth and reality.

Facebook, CNN, MSM, and the like are all showing cracks. Yes, it is perplexing that so many are still slurping the garbage propaganda that they spew....but as a poster said earlier.....many are figuring things out.