Quote from: unver on March 25, 2021, 05:29:55 PM
17% of people aged 18-29 believe America should be ruled by a monarch, as opposed to 1% for senior citizens. 25% do not care either way. This is similar for support of freedom of speech, the younger the person, the less likely to support freedom of speech. This is largely because of what is being taught in schools. "Hate speech" is the most  emphasized in schools, including private.

The American Revolution is hardly taught in school anymore. https://www.unz.com/anepigone/monarchy-seniors-malarkey/

When one pays nothing for something it has no value whatsoever. This is one of the reasons I subscribe to mandantory national service as many other nations have. Perhaps if people had to EARN their freedom they would attach some value to it and treat it with more care.

There is no contratiction between having Queen Elizabeth as the US Head of State and having freedom. She is the Queen of about a dozen independent nations, each with their own constitution. The US constitution would not be adversely affected. The references to a POTUS would have to be tweaked and it would be the House Majority leader who would be called upon to form a government, but beyond that, you would hardly notice a difference except you would have one of the most respected world leaders as the symbol of the US. No President that I can think of has ever had that kind of gravitas, except maybe JFK. If Speaker Pelosi was Prime Minister, and she lost a vote of confidence in the House, she would have to resign. Easy Peasey.

Quote from: dickfoster on March 26, 2021, 04:03:19 PM
When one pays nothing for something it has no value whatsoever. This is one of the reasons I subscribe to mandantory national service as many other nations have. Perhaps if people had to EARN their freedom they would attach some value to it and treat it with more care.

It's not just an individual "earning" their freedom. It's about allowing others to have and enjoy freedom as well. Marxists are miserable and want everyone else to be miserable as well. This is why liberal Democrats use every means to avoid taxes but, want everyone else to pay higher taxes.

Quote from: Tory Potter on March 26, 2021, 12:26:37 PM
England has had 58 monarchs in the last 1150 years (Alfred the Great.) Of those 58, three can be viewed as bad. Edward II, Richard II, Bloody Mary. There were three others who were disappointments. Henry VI, George IV, and Edward VIII. How many Presidents of the US can meet that record. The list of outstanding Monarchs is too long to list here. Lets just name a few. Alfred, Athelstan, Edward the Elder, Henry II, Edward I, Edward III, Charles II, Anne, Elizabeth, George III, Victoria, George V, Edward VII, and Elizabeth II. I have missed many but can you name any Presidents of the US just in the 20th century who were outstanding?
The monarch is non-political and does not have power, but has enormous Authority. The one area where the Queen has no authority is over taxes. This means the Prime Minister has political power but only at the pleasure of the Crown and Parliament. No Prime Minister can legally become a dictator, nor can a Judge or a General. The Queen has the same role and authority as the Presidents of Germany and Israel. She is normally a figurehead but has a vital role in a crisis.
The entire Royal Family costs the British taxpayer less than the UK Embassy in Paris.
The Queen was trained for the job for 16 years before she assumed the role and was trained by people like Churchil. The POTUS can take office without any training. The UK's next King has already been in training for over 60 years.
The US could (and has) done a lot worse than rejoining the Commonwealth and adopting the Queen as your head of State or does President Biden look that great to you.

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Reflective words indeed.
Since the dawn of Man, multi-millennia have elapsed and over that time,
the vast majority of Mankind's governance/rule was thru Monarchy; having
a sound record of achievement.
As for the naysayers, answer this query.
What is the model from which Monarchy was developed?????
In fact, it was the Family unit of Father, Mother and Children, the bedrock
of civilization as defined by the Natural Law, since the Garden of Eden.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 26, 2021, 08:37:02 AM
Wouldn't it be entertaining to hear from these folks why they favor a monarchy?

Because everything would be fair and equal.............................................

My take
the polls' conclusion isn't how many of that age support a Monarch it shows how many are too stupid to know what a Monarch is

Quote from: TRFjr on March 27, 2021, 05:04:08 AM
My take
the polls' conclusion isn't how many of that age support a Monarch it shows how many are too stupid to know what a Monarch is

Ah, excellent point! My guess is that the same number would say that they don't mind Communism also. Neither reality is taught in our liberal education today.

Quote from: Tory Potter on March 26, 2021, 12:26:37 PM
England has had 58 monarchs in the last 1150 years (Alfred the Great.) Of those 58, three can be viewed as bad. Edward II, Richard II, Bloody Mary. There were three others who were disappointments. Henry VI, George IV, and Edward VIII. How many Presidents of the US can meet that record. The list of outstanding Monarchs is too long to list here. Lets just name a few. Alfred, Athelstan, Edward the Elder, Henry II, Edward I, Edward III, Charles II, Anne, Elizabeth, George III, Victoria, George V, Edward VII, and Elizabeth II. I have missed many but can you name any Presidents of the US just in the 20th century who were outstanding?
The monarch is non-political and does not have power, but has enormous Authority. The one area where the Queen has no authority is over taxes. This means the Prime Minister has political power but only at the pleasure of the Crown and Parliament. No Prime Minister can legally become a dictator, nor can a Judge or a General. The Queen has the same role and authority as the Presidents of Germany and Israel. She is normally a figurehead but has a vital role in a crisis.
The entire Royal Family costs the British taxpayer less than the UK Embassy in Paris.
The Queen was trained for the job for 16 years before she assumed the role and was trained by people like Churchil. The POTUS can take office without any training. The UK's next King has already been in training for over 60 years.
The US could (and has) done a lot worse than rejoining the Commonwealth and adopting the Queen as your head of State...or does President Biden look that great to you.

Problem being, what you see in our Republic today is a complete bastardization of it's original conception.
Our Framers knew govt was inherently evil, so they created three equal branches of power to contradict one another, none being strong enough to rule over the other
Congress relinquished much of their duties. This all must change.

Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2021, 06:18:18 AM

Our Framers knew govt was inherently evil,...

There lies the error. Governments are not inherently evil. Some are, such as Stalin, Hitler, Amin and the current Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Many governments such as the USA, the UK, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Japan etc. strive to be a reflection of their people.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 26, 2021, 08:37:02 AM
Wouldn't it be entertaining to hear from these folks why they favor a monarchy?

Wouldn't they be considered 1%'s? With their castles, luxury cars, and royal titles?

Quote from: Tory Potter on March 27, 2021, 07:16:30 AM
There lies the error. Governments are not inherently evil. Some are, such as Stalin, Hitler, Amin and the current Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Many governments such as the USA, the UK, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Japan etc. strive to be a reflection of their people.

I'm sorry, have you been on holiday out in space somewhere?  Governments by their very nature are evil and repressive.  It's why the framers originally set up a system to check the power of the evil that exists in governance.  It has taken about 100 years for the progressives to prove the inherent evil that exists today in what's left of our republican form of government.  The Constitution has been flipped upside down.

To say our current state of affairs in the USA reflects the people is a joke, a piss poor joke at that.  The evil that resides in government has once again risen from Hell to destroy a free nation.

So no thanks to your Queen, King or Duke of Earl.  Especially if it leads to little pussy girlie boys like that pathetic mama's boy being led around like a cuckold by his Whitey hating piece of shit wife.  But I guess the queer nation needs it's leaders as well.  Princess Harry is a disgrace to every man on this planet and the thought of someone like that as a future King in some utopia bullshit monarch?  Bullshit

Quote from: Tory Potter on March 27, 2021, 07:16:30 AM
There lies the error. Governments are not inherently evil. Some are, such as Stalin, Hitler, Amin and the current Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Many governments such as the USA, the UK, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Japan etc. strive to be a reflection of their people.

Man is inherently selfish, and when you have several in power, you have corruption. This, our Founders recognized, which is why they created a "Limited Govt".
You know absolutely nothing about our history, or why we rejected the Crown.

Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2021, 08:44:03 AM
Man is inherently selfish, and when you have several in power, you have corruption. This, our Founders recognized, which is why they created a "Limited Govt".
You know absolutely nothing about our history, or why we rejected the Crown.

Precisely!

Quote from: dickfoster on March 27, 2021, 09:19:27 AM
Precisely!

Yep, just look at the wealth of those in power in the UK. The Crown, the Catholic church, only God knows how much they've stolen over the centuries.

Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2021, 09:29:18 AM
Yep, just look at the wealth of those in power in the UK. The Crown, the Catholic church, only God knows how much they've stolen over the centuries.

Well Henery VIII did kick the mackrel snappers out long ago not that was not the end of the corruption and abuse of the people. I can't figure out why the dumbass limeys keep hanging on to that useless bunch of royalty crap. Then again this country isn't really any brighter with all of their idiotic hero worship of movie stars, rock stars and sports figures or anyone MSM telks tgem to worship. As a general rule people seem to be pretty much just plain stupid and apparently want to be sheep. I guess they know down deep they are too damned stupid to take care of and think for themselves.