Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
It's your defeatist attitude for one,

It isn't defeatist to acknowledge that President Trump has lost the 2020 Presidential election.   It isn't defeatist to think we should spend our efforts on winning the next election DECISIVELY rather than hopelessly flail away about an election we all know is lost.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 04:44:46 PM
 

I never said that.   I simply teach that the 3rd and 7th Amendments are  (largely) irrelevant.    Which they are.    Neither are typically applicable to any issue today.

Yet!!!
Geez dude, the Founders knew our Republic would be tentative at best, so they made certain we, the people could hold the govt accountable.
Everything in the bill of Rights is designed to hold govt at bay, and yes, the 3rd and 7th are all a part of keeping the govt restrained.

Your condoning of the idea that they are no longer necessary screams you know very little about our God Given Rights!

In 230 years, the 3rd Amendment has only been referenced by the Supreme Court a couple of times.

Thus "irrelevant".

https://www.history.com/news/third-amendment-constitution-james-madison#:~:text=Since%20the%20Third%20Amendment%27s%20ratification,Sawyer.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 04:52:27 PM
In 230 years, the 3rd Amendment has only been referenced by the Supreme Court a couple of times.

Thus "irrelevant".

https://www.history.com/news/third-amendment-constitution-james-madison#:~:text=Since%20the%20Third%20Amendment%27s%20ratification,Sawyer.

Like I said, "YET"!
It's there for a reason, and 3rd, just after the 2nd, for a damn good reason! We were sending a message to the govt, a line you don't dare cross!

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 04:47:05 PM
It isn't defeatist to acknowledge that President Trump has lost the 2020 Presidential election.   It isn't defeatist to think we should spend our efforts on winning the next election DECISIVELY rather than hopelessly flail away about an election we all know is lost.

You don't get it do you?  There isn't going to be "the next election" if the Marxist party gets away with this one. They figured out a system how to cheat and beat the system. This is going to be just like some of the other third world hell holes where I saw first hand how the side that cheats the most wins.

If they gain power thru this election they will stay in power by controlling the vote.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 06:43:43 PM
You don't get it do you?  There isn't going to be "the next election" if the Marxist party gets away with this one. They figured out a system how to cheat and beat the system. This is going to be just like some of the other third world hell holes where I saw first hand how the side that cheats the most wins.

If they gain power thru this election they will stay in power by controlling the vote.

You know that is complete BS.   It is equivalent to the same liberal idiots that once claimed Trump,  George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan (seriously) was going to suspend free elections in the U.S.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 08:05:08 PM
You know that is complete BS.   It is equivalent to the same liberal idiots that once claimed Trump,  George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan (seriously) was going to suspend free elections in the U.S.

WOW! You really are thick as a brick!!! The Marxist DNC in concert with Russia, Iran and the CCP just tried to steal our election, you do know that, Right?
And what do you suppose would have happened if we hadn't exposed them?

Come on, explain to us how these Marxists would have stopped cheating after this election, I really have to hear your interpretation.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 08:05:08 PM
You know that is complete BS.   It is equivalent to the same liberal idiots that once claimed Trump,  George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan (seriously) was going to suspend free elections in the U.S.

How would you know if it is complete BS?  Question, have you ever been in a third world country or listened to anyone from such country that will tell you the truth about their politics?

What I described is EXACTLY what socialist regimes do, fix elections, cheat, lie, steal, stuff the ballot box, buy votes with a few coins or a few cans of dried goods, house "voters" mostly poor peasants from the boonies in makeshift ghettos for 30 days so they can vote, flying voters, dead voters, and dozen other tricks we've seen the in this election & others. When that doesnt work they intimidate any one who would run against them or vote against them....or sure they have Token candidates to make it look good. The money to do this comes from the corruption gleaned by those in power, sometimes foreign aide from the USA or other so called "free countries" and of course China, Russia etc.

YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU DONT REALIZE THIS, I've seen it with my own eyes in a number of Foreign countries I've lived and worked in.

Now the techocrats have figured out how to fix elections through techology, if you don't think it will happen again
You are a bigger fool than I thought or deliberately lying to cover for your socialist masters