William Voegeli, senior editor of the Claremont Review, refreshes our memory: "Since 1994 Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency for 12 years, and never once during that time did the party ever zero out funding for the National Endowment for the Arts or the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

"If the low–hanging fruit in Washington is always higher than the tallest Republican ladder, then something is fundamentally wrong. If the conservative high priests don't take limited government seriously, why should the voters?"

GOP government is only limited when it comes to issues conservatives care about.

The conservative base cares about immigration, jobs, culture and family. Donald Trump beat a field of candidates former Republican George Will called the most talented since 1980 because Trump ran on issues relevant to the conservative base.

And the GOP establishment hated him for it. Trump had two years with complete control of Congress. And what did Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell do? They looked smug, superior and blocked Trump at every opportunity.

Now that Trump may be leaving office it's business as usual. Republicans can hardly wait to repudiate Trump's issues and his voters. Senators John Cornyn and Susan Collins, who both just rode the Trump re-election wave, want to grant amnesty to DACA illegals as a first step toward "immigration reform." What that means is total amnesty for up to 30 million illegals.

And last week I wrote about how every single Republican in the Senate voted unanimously to let US corporations import more low–wage foreign tech workers to take the jobs of middle-class US citizens.

One conservative Trump supporter even tried a lawsuit. Bob Heghmann, a Virginia Beach, VA retired lawyer sued the national and Virginia GOP contending Republicans "[have] been engaged in a pattern of Racketeering which involves massive fraud perpetrated on Republican voters."

Heghmann added, "Republicans could have repealed and replaced Obamacare with two–page bill. But the leadership never intended to do it."

The Republican party is a collection of morally corrupt corporate tools who protect their donors at the expense of their voters. It cannot be reformed. A double RINO victory in Georgia will buy conservatives enough time to start building their own conservative party from the ground up.

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2020/12/long-past-time-for-conservatives-to-abandon-the-gop/





To be honest, there's such a movement of true conservatism online that it surprises me when the establishment GOPers keep winning. The same for the Democratic Party too.

We should probably really have 4 political parties, at least.

I made a thread about Ranked Choice Voting before, a split in both parties and RCV could help our crappy Congress become productive.

You going to side with the fascist democrats or communist democrats once your party completely fractures?

Quote from: Owebo on December 16, 2020, 04:27:53 PM
You going to side with the fascist democrats or communist democrats once your party completely fractures?

I don't have a Party. That's one of the reasons why I like the ideas of non-partisan elections, open primaries, and Ranked Choice Voting...

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:32:30 PM
I don't have a Party. That's one of the reasons why I like the ideas of non-partisan elections, open primaries, and Ranked Choice Voting...

You sure do....

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:22:09 PM
William Voegeli, senior editor of the Claremont Review, refreshes our memory: "Since 1994 Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency for 12 years, and never once during that time did the party ever zero out funding for the National Endowment for the Arts or the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

"If the low–hanging fruit in Washington is always higher than the tallest Republican ladder, then something is fundamentally wrong. If the conservative high priests don't take limited government seriously, why should the voters?"

GOP government is only limited when it comes to issues conservatives care about.

The conservative base cares about immigration, jobs, culture and family. Donald Trump beat a field of candidates former Republican George Will called the most talented since 1980 because Trump ran on issues relevant to the conservative base.

And the GOP establishment hated him for it. Trump had two years with complete control of Congress. And what did Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell do? They looked smug, superior and blocked Trump at every opportunity.

Now that Trump may be leaving office it's business as usual. Republicans can hardly wait to repudiate Trump's issues and his voters. Senators John Cornyn and Susan Collins, who both just rode the Trump re-election wave, want to grant amnesty to DACA illegals as a first step toward "immigration reform." What that means is total amnesty for up to 30 million illegals.

And last week I wrote about how every single Republican in the Senate voted unanimously to let US corporations import more low–wage foreign tech workers to take the jobs of middle-class US citizens.

One conservative Trump supporter even tried a lawsuit. Bob Heghmann, a Virginia Beach, VA retired lawyer sued the national and Virginia GOP contending Republicans "[have] been engaged in a pattern of Racketeering which involves massive fraud perpetrated on Republican voters."

Heghmann added, "Republicans could have repealed and replaced Obamacare with two–page bill. But the leadership never intended to do it."

The Republican party is a collection of morally corrupt corporate tools who protect their donors at the expense of their voters. It cannot be reformed. A double RINO victory in Georgia will buy conservatives enough time to start building their own conservative party from the ground up.

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2020/12/long-past-time-for-conservatives-to-abandon-the-gop/





To be honest, there's such a movement of true conservatism online that it surprises me when the establishment GOPers keep winning. The same for the Democratic Party too.

We should probably really have 4 political parties, at least.

I made a thread about Ranked Choice Voting before, a split in both parties and RCV could help our crappy Congress become productive.

No thanks. We'll just take back the GOP: https://conservativehardliner.com/how-stop-marxist-infestation-gop

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:22:09 PM

Pure drivel...

Want to make congress better?  Here's how; term limits and reduce salary to one half of where it is, no pensions or health insurance, staff budget cut in half, congress sits for a maximum of 4 months out of the year and any increase of net worth of any member that exceeds their salary for the time spent in office shall be taxed at 80%.  What?  No one wants the job?  Good.  Less damage the bastards can do to us.

When talking about the GOP it's important to remember that inside of that tent are many different folks.  There are some conservatives, but mostly RINO's.  A RINO is a wet fart above a democrap and just short of being pond scum.  You need not look any further than Paul Ryan who is married to a staunch democrap, a true RINO.  Romney and McStain, two more RINO assholes.

Political parties are nothing more than whore houses.  And you will notice that these skunks will switch parties if that's what it takes to win an election.  We need Americans to run the country.  One party, one purpose and a desire to create a more perfect union.

Oh, one more thing to improve the country.  DC cocktail parties where polcats are in attendance will be shut down and the whore polcats attending the parties will be taken outside and shot in the street.

These simple solutions will improve the country within a couple months.

The GOP has their man, a fighter, a true American that went to fight for us the forgotten working man.  President Trump.  The GOP could have been better, but they couldn't get past the hate for a man that comes in and knocks down the front door and shines a light on the scumbags while they scurry around in the darkness.

Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 16, 2020, 04:56:13 PM
Want to make congress better?  Here's how; term limits and reduce salary to one half of where it is, no pensions or health insurance, staff budget cut in half, congress sits for a maximum of 4 months out of the year and any increase of net worth of any member that exceeds their salary for the time spent in office shall be taxed at 80%.  What?  No one wants the job?  Good.  Less damage the bastards can do to us.

When talking about the GOP it's important to remember that inside of that tent are many different folks.  There are some conservatives, but mostly RINO's.  A RINO is a wet fart above a democrap and just short of being pond scum.  You need not look any further than Paul Ryan who is married to a staunch democrap, a true RINO.  Romney and McStain, two more RINO assholes.

Political parties are nothing more than whore houses.  And you will notice that these skunks will switch parties if that's what it takes to win an election.  We need Americans to run the country.  One party, one purpose and a desire to create a more perfect union.

Oh, one more thing to improve the country.  DC cocktail parties where polcats are in attendance will be shut down and the whore polcats attending the parties will be taken outside and shot in the street.

These simple solutions will improve the country within a couple months.

The GOP has their man, a fighter, a true American that went to fight for us the forgotten working man.  President Trump.  The GOP could have been better, but they couldn't get past the hate for a man that comes in and knocks down the front door and shines a light on the scumbags while they scurry around in the darkness.

I'm sure that some one with more time than us has been able to look at all 50 States to determine which Congressional systems might be the best for an efficient and effective government.

I'll add that on my list of things to look into

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:32:30 PM
I don't have a Party. That's one of the reasons why I like the ideas of non-partisan elections, open primaries, and Ranked Choice Voting...

That makes it easy for politicians to be deceptive with the ignorant masses.

If a candidate stands with a particular party you at leas understand the fundamentals.  Of course this is no cure for the politician who doesnt have a backbone