Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.

What's wrong with that?

Just think a little deeper. People can request a ballot and they can vote by mail. The "vote by mail" proposal is to send all registered voters a ballot.

Is that too hard to comprehend?

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 30, 2020, 12:18:43 PM
Just think a little deeper. People can request a ballot and they can vote by mail. The "vote by mail" proposal is to send all registered voters a ballot.

Is that too hard to comprehend?

Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election. 

Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2020, 12:41:16 PM
Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election.

He knows exactly what this entails, that's why he supports it, he knows it would be packed with fraud.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.

What's wrong with that?

Here ya go Joe, real world evidence that fraud would and did occur!

CRIMEPublished 34 mins ago
4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announces

Four men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.

Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.

Christopher Joseph Williams, 41, and Nickey Demelvin Huntley, 45, each pleaded no contest to one felony count of circulating an initiative or petition containing false, forged or fictitious names.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 09:36:24 AM
In Florida they're the same thing.

What are the differences in Cali?

No they arent, absentee has never been mail in voting. Those are different systems.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.

What's wrong with that?

Bruh, come on. Thats a bold faced lie. You cant be that uninformed can you? Unless you are very young....

Quote from: T Hunt on July 30, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
Bruh, come on. Thats a bold faced lie. You cant be that uninformed can you? Unless you are very young....

Or.........

Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2020, 12:41:16 PM
Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election.

But not everyone can vote absentee. You have to go thru some hoops first. Thats the differenece with mail in, no hoops to jump thru, no checks and balances. No states has ever allowed all voters to vote absentee. You always have to sign up for it at the least. Thats entirely different from mail in voting which is entirely new to this election cycle.

EDIT: I see thats actually what you were saying 

Also leftist judges can just rule mail in votes from conservative areas not valid for some made up reason.

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 11:52:50 AM
Because anyone can vote, even people out of country! Careful what you wish for, this could completely backfire on the left if out of country influences decide they want Trump.
Bottom line, it's stupid, the left doesn't want voter ID, claiming it's racist, furthering our message that libs think blacks are too stupid to vote.

Here is Ca, the Guv wants this shit! Now tell me, can you not see an issue?

The order requires county election officials to send vote-by-mail ballots to all voters in time for the November election.

"No Californian should be forced to risk their health in order to exercise their right to vote," Newsom said in a statement.

These groups, the statement says, include disabled, non-English speaking and homeless voters.

A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.

Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.

States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).


But again, our elections work fine.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.

Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.

States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).


But again, our elections work fine.

Again, you are conflating mail in with absentee ballots! You just proved my point.
From your source. "All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone."

The same thing takes place in Ca, especially my county where we all vote absentee. I was forced to jump through hoops to get registered, because they want proof you live where you claim. Utility bills, I don't have utilities, I've been off grid for more than 30 years, even the title to my land wasn't good enough, they wanted proof I reside where I claim.

The shit the DNC is pulling does not require any of those things, Hell, even a Canadian can vote in our elections if he asks for a damn ballot under DNC rules!

Why do you support election fraud? You do realize the Right might be so sick of this shit, they may start asking for ballots for their pets and sway the election for Trump.
How does that sound?

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 07:14:20 PM
Again, you are conflating mail in with absentee ballots! You just proved my point.
From your source. "All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone."

The same thing takes place in Ca, especially my county where we all vote absentee. I was forced to jump through hoops to get registered, because they want proof you live where you claim. Utility bills, I don't have utilities, I've been off grid for more than 30 years, even the title to my land wasn't good enough, they wanted proof I reside where I claim.

The shit the DNC is pulling does not require any of those things, Hell, even a Canadian can vote in our elections if he asks for a damn ballot under DNC rules!

Why do you support election fraud? You do realize the Right might be so sick of this shit, they may start asking for ballots for their pets and sway the election for Trump.
How does that sound?

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)


No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.

Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.

While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).

Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).

Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?

Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf

We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)


No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.

Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.

While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).

Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).

Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?

Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf

We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?

What part of registering to vote in person, do you not understand?
The DNC is noted for fraud, that's why you're getting so much shit for your stupidity!

4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announces

Four men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.

Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 07:43:26 PM
What part of registering to vote in person, do you not understand?
The DNC is noted for fraud, that's why you're getting so much shit for your stupidity!

4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announces

Four men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.

Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces

My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.

These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.

Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.

Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.

This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.

In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.

These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.

Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.

Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.

This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.

In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.

https://themarketswork.com/2018/10/31/is-voter-fraud-real-a-look-at-californias-illegal-voter-registration-problem/

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.

These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.

Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.

Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.

This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.

In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.

Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!

I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!

No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!

Now do you fuckin get it?    I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!