https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-sessions-against-senate-run-alabama

Would the good people of Alabama  believe that he would not have revenge on Trump in mind? T

he Liberal MSM loves the idea.

What revenge?

I don't think that Jeff Sessions is a NeverTrumper. He was the first Senator to support Trump and he did a lot of very good things while he was Attorney General.  His greatest flaw was attempting to keep himself out of the sort of attacks that William Barr has suffered.  I think he was wrong in his political decision to attempt to stay completely out of the attacks on the President.  William Barr said this week that he is the American people's Attorney General and not the Attorney of the President.  He is taking a whole lot of personal heat for what the President's political foes see as his being part of what they call the President's Obstruction.

AG Sessions seems to have concluded he could serve better as maintaining a clear distance form this political fight.  While I see this as a mistake, I don't think of Jeff Sessions as a NeverTrumper.  I see him more as someone who failed to serve the President well as Attorney General and therefore he was a person that needed to be replaced.

Jeff Session never should have given up his Senate seat and the people of his state will certainly elect him if he throws his hat in the ring.  He is a solid conservative and would come around just as Ted Cruz has.

Trump trashed Sessions badly for a year before he canned him.

I have to believe that Sessions had his middle finger raised to the TV set when he watched Trump on TV.

Quote from: wally on October 29, 2019, 12:40:15 PM
I don't think that Jeff Sessions is a NeverTrumper. He was the first Senator to support Trump and he did a lot of very good things while he was Attorney General.  His greatest flaw was attempting to keep himself out of the sort of attacks that William Barr has suffered.  I think he was wrong in his political decision to attempt to stay completely out of the attacks on the President.  William Barr said this week that he is the American people's Attorney General and not the Attorney of the President.  He is taking a whole lot of personal heat for what the President's political foes see as his being part of what they call the President's Obstruction.

Huh? McCabe launched an investigation into Sessions for colluding with Russia. How could Sessions have prosecuted the very investigation that was investigating him?  Sessions did the right thing by recusing himself.

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AG Sessions seems to have concluded he could serve better as maintaining a clear distance form this political fight.  While I see this as a mistake, I don't think of Jeff Sessions as a NeverTrumper.  I see him more as someone who failed to serve the President well as Attorney General and therefore he was a person that needed to be replaced.

Sessions plugged the leaks so we could do these investigations, expanded GITMO, launched Huber and Durham, and started the penetration into the sanctuary cities, voter fraud investigations, and all the arrests that are currently under seal and piled up during his tenure.

It still bewilders me that people think Sessions didn't do enough. I'll never understand that.

Quote from: carolina73 on October 29, 2019, 12:45:19 PM
Trump trashed Sessions badly for a year before he canned him.

I have to believe that Sessions had his middle finger raised to the TV set when he watched Trump on TV.

I think it was deception. There's a whole lot of that going around.  Case in point, yesterday with Barr overly-complimenting Christopher Wray.  The same anti-Sessions crowd have been saying Wray is a bad guy as well.  Barr put a nail in the coffin.

Quote from: taxed on October 29, 2019, 12:45:36 PM
Huh? McCabe launched an investigation into Sessions for colluding with Russia. How could Sessions have prosecuted the very investigation that was investigating him?  Sessions did the right thing by recusing himself.
Sessions plugged the leaks so we could do these investigations, expanded GITMO, launched Huber and Durham, and started the penetration into the sanctuary cities, voter fraud investigations, and all the arrests that are currently under seal and piled up during his tenure.

It still bewilders me that people think Sessions didn't do enough. I'll never understand that.

William Barr did what Jeff Sessions should have done.  As a result, they held him in contempt (and they still do) but Barr still remains our Attorney General and the Left still attempt to say that he is compromised. 

Had Sessions not recused himself, he still would have been our Attorney General and Congress would not have been able to remove him.  He Blinked!  (BTW, it is far easier said than done.  After his Confirmation Hearing, I don't blame him for believing that if he didn't do what they demanded that they would have had his head on a Pike. )

Sessions is a good man, just as Donald Trump is.  He simply didn't think he had a winning hand and folded, when it came to the false allegations against Donald Trump and everyone in his campaign.  Has Session not recused himself, the whole issue of Trump-Russia Collusion would have played out long before they got Mueller as their Deep State Witch Hunter.

Quote from: wally on October 29, 2019, 12:59:22 PM
William Barr did what Jeff Sessions should have done.

Good gravy Wally.  Bill Barr could not be doing what he's doing had Sessions not done what he did.

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  As a result, they held him in contempt (and they still do) but Barr still remains our Attorney General and the Left still attempt to say that he is compromised.

The left will never exhibit rationality, so I don't factor that in any consideration for anything.

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Had Sessions not recused himself, he still would have been our Attorney General and Congress would not have been able to remove him.  He Blinked!  (BTW, it is far easier said than done.  After his Confirmation Hearing, I don't blame him for believing that if he didn't do what they demanded that they would have had his head on a Pike. )

Wally, is it your position that an Attorney General, under investigation by the FBI, referred by Congress, should not recuse himself in that investigation?  I don't quite understand why you think Sessions should not have recused himself.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/03/22/wait-what-jeff-sessions-was-under-fbi-investigation-by-andrew-mccabe-n2463651

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Sessions is a good man, just as Donald Trump is.  He simply didn't think he had a winning hand and folded, when it came to the false allegations against Donald Trump and everyone in his campaign.  Has Session not recused himself, the whole issue of Trump-Russia Collusion would have played out long before they got Mueller as their Deep State Witch Hunter.

I don't understand why you say that.  Rosenstein took the investigation from McCabe and gave it to Mueller.  Sessions wasn't needed and was free to plug leaks, etc.  Why do you hold firm to this notion that Sessions made the wrong moves?

Sessions went to the deep state (DOJ lawyers) to get his advice on what the right thing to do was. He allowed himself to be setup. Rosenstein should have recused himself if anyone should have.

Quote from: carolina73 on October 29, 2019, 01:07:54 PM
Sessions went to the deep state (DOJ lawyers) to get his advice on what the right thing to do was. He allowed himself to be setup. Rosenstein should have recused himself if anyone should have.

What should he have done?

Quote from: carolina73 on October 29, 2019, 01:07:54 PM
Sessions went to the deep state (DOJ lawyers) to get his advice on what the right thing to do was. He allowed himself to be setup. Rosenstein should have recused himself if anyone should have.

Sessions could have told them to go shit in their hat!  Congress may have held him in contempt, but just like Eric Holder, he would have remained in his job! Furthermore, the whole Russia-Collusion thing would have been played out in Congress and died long before it could interfere with our President's ability to do his job.  Sessions made a big mistake.  However, as I said, Jeff Sessions is a very good man and a solid Conservative.  Rational, intelligent minds can differ on whether or not he did the right thing in following the advice of Deep State DOJ lawyers. It is pretty clear that the Mueller travesty was a direct result of the absence of an Attorney General in one of the biggest things facing our nation's safety and security.  The Hoax continues AND it could have been stopped before it snowballed to where it is now!

Woulda - Coulda - Shoulda.....   Sessions is still a great Patriot.  I simply believe he made and understandable, but tragic mistake.  He successfully avoided having the stain of contempt of Congress that is on Eric Holder's record.  It hasn't hurt Holder though. Hell, that Asshole might one day run for POTUS!

Quote from: taxed on October 29, 2019, 01:11:45 PM
What should he have done?

Simple. Not listen to them. Sessions knew he did nothing wrong.

No one else did or does. The left is always going to tell every Republican to resign, recuse or whatever they can do to make the GOP look bad in the press. Democrats just refuse and nothing happens. Look at Saddam Schiff as an example.

Quote from: wally on October 29, 2019, 01:18:30 PM
Sessions could have told them to go sit in their hat! 

Why would that have not been obstruction of justice?

If Sessions wants to run so be it. Let his constituents decide.

Quote from: taxed on October 29, 2019, 01:19:46 PM
Why would that have not been obstruction of justice?

and how would that have been any different that what Eric Hold did?  Saying so, don't make it so!  The entire Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax would have died as they attempted to Impeach him!  They had a hell of a lot less organized effort before two years of Mueller!!!!    Right now we have an Attorney General who has put himself on the line and they will do the same thing to William Barr that they would have done to AG Jeff Sessions.  The only difference is;   They are now going to attempt to take out the President along with anyone who stands with him!