Quote from: Bronx on September 25, 2016, 05:15:50 AM
I don't believe a word Trump says. If he told me it was raining outside I would have to go outside and see for myself.

He has flip flopped on EVERYTHING including lyin' Ted Cruz's endorsement.

Hillary will stab you in the front while Trump will stab you in the back.

AGREE 100%   "Never Trust a Politician or someone over 30yrs." we use to hear during the Nixon administration.

And this stupid GOPe pledge nonsense, EVERYONE, including Sean Hannity, should have quit using it as a "wedge" within the GOP.   Trump was the first one to bail, but where was the GOPe after Trump crossed the "red line"?   Oh, I guess that only applies to Ted Cruz, not Trump!?  Kasich - why not a peep out of Hannity or the GOPe.

YES, I'll NEVER trust a word Sean Hannity says AGAIN!  Period   He ran with a pledge Trump broke and caused further fracturing and division within the Republican Party, to the point it'll never be unified before the Elections.   If Hillary WINS, we can THANK SEAN HANNITY for driving the wedge, day after day & hardening the opposition to Trump instead of wooing anti-Trump people back to the GOP.  Threatening and belittling, implying we & Ted are 'sore losers' for not parking our brains & liberty at the door and drinking the Trump koolaide.   Everyone who berated, belittles and bullies the non-Trump supporters have some real "Soul Searching" to do, starting with, "What did I do to WIN OVER the fence sitters, the disenfranchised Ted Cruz 35% of the electorate?"  NOTHING!   Instead of trying to win US over, we got everything from our integrity to our intelligence questioned (which we accurately question FOX and the BOUGHT OFF news media - who have made a point of picking favorites for decades).  If these PAID political advocates got out of their echo-chambers, they might realize there are millions and millions of people just like us, who are really sick and tired of someone else telling us to vote this way or that, and assuming we're the stupid ones.   

If Ted Cruz got down on both knees and begged Donald Trump to accept an endorsement Trump said he didn't want, would that make Hannity shut up and start making nice?   I doubt it, these "conservative liberals" have a vested interest in ... well, they DO work for Liberals, and after years to kissing the rings of their Liberal masters - they find a warm kindred spirit in their Liberal candidate, Donald Trump.  All together now, Sean, Laura, Mike, Rush - "Finally, someone we can all agree upon in the Republican Party, Hail Donald!!!  You TEA party folks, just shut the hell up and vote Donald!"   They would answer "US" with the usual, mightier-than-thou, "a nobody", "some worthless mass of flesh, a blogger", "a nothing, some guy in pajamas" - as if they "OWN" the minds of the electorate, and independent thought is an impossibility without them.   To tell the truth, if we met on the street, I wouldn't recognize them any more than they're recognize me - to me, we have equality, ONE VOTE.  And my vote is my Conscience, not yours, 100% MINE.

TEA is alive and well - ignore our no-votes and write-in votes at your peril, GOPe, RINOs & bought off MSM and talk show hosts, there is a whole new League of Constitutional Conservatives rising up.  We don't need a Political Party like the GOP or TEA, because we are individual voters, with a singular cause, returning the USA to it's Constitutional roots & reining in this bloated, corrupt government.  Talk is cheap, coming from these so-called "conservative talk show hosts" - they promoted their Liberal buddies on one hand and lamented, "Oh, the terrible corruption on the other" - they're bought and paid for political pundits!  Years and years they've warned us against the "political liberal bias in the mainstream news media" - but this election cycle, everyday is clear evidence, these "Moles" in the Conservative movement have one goal, enriching themselves & screw the USA.

Eric Erickson suggested some of us like to put Conservatives up on pedestals & revere them as gods.   That's for the short-sighted folks, the Conservative talk show hosts, the Trump-a-loons who parked their brains in neutral and wildly fantasize a known Democratic Liberal with an "R" stuck to his keister is going to "save" America.   We've always taken the long-view, it took decades of liberal indoctrination to screw up this electorate, it'll take decades to get us back to order and sanity.  We don't need these daytime, soap opera era entertainers, polluting our cause.  Eric, get a hold of yourself, Ted's STILL a good guy, on our side - we're not the ones fainting when Ted held a rally.

None of us absolutely agree 100% with each other, neither have the Democrats.  Yet these media pundits seem to think, "If only the Conservatives would come together, park their brains...  we could win it all."   Sorry, MSM talk show hosts, you're still not the solution, you're the problem.   Why would we want to agree 100% with those on "our side", Eric Erickson & Mark Levin, when I like Kosher Swedish Meatballs without Onion and Levin likes his with Parmesan?   We need to ask Erickson - ohhh, this could be a deal breaker!!!  OMG!  There's no unity!  Cruz caved!  We're all doomed!  The GOPe won!  Tears & sobbing, choking & crying in my beer...!  ..yes, times like this, a dog IS man's best friend - they'll listen to anything, and don't drink much beer.   We DO agree where it counts, the United States of America Constitution.

What do I REALLY think?  Mark Levin & Hillsdale College has stumbled onto something, or we stumbled on to him - whatever, 'they' have the L_O_N_G view in mind.  Whether it's the Convention of States, or returning to the principles our nation was founded upon - the Constitution, that's where we need to focus, IMO.  Educating the electorate.  If we want a litmus test, we can frame EVERY QUESTION over understanding and adherence to the Constitution.  The potential Candidate either understands and adheres, giving well reasoned responses, or we flat out REJECT the bastard as something other than American.   If I were "given" the opportunity to ask a debate question, I'd make it a solid Constitutional one, and require ALL parties answer.   None of these hot-button crap quesitons, that have no basis in our future as Americans.  If nothing else is gained through the debates (a worthless exercise in political correctness, IMO), at least someone could ask a simple question:  "The 5th Amendment states...  why is an essential right for every American?"   Make the SOBs either deny or support the Constitution, and educate the viewers with one question.  If I were a moderator, hell... I'd start with the 1st Amendment and work right down the line with pointed questioning!   With any limp-wristed, wet noodle answer, I'd fire back, "The Oath of Office you'll swear to uphold the Constitution, the public has a right to know, do you BELIEVE it or are you going to LIE when you take the oath of office!?"

BTW - Solar, I'm with you, we're gonna take back the GOP - I see nothing but continued fracturing and division in these 3-party options - their only practical use is a "protest vote" which would be muted anyways.   Consider Cruz & Lee as Constitutional plants, more on the way.

Quote from: mrconservative on September 23, 2016, 11:42:05 AM
Is there any political person to trust anymore?

I trust Cruz to do what is best for HIMSELF first.

And for US second.

Which is a whole lot better than most of them, which NEVER do what is in OUR interest.

Quote from: walkstall on September 24, 2016, 01:25:05 PM

So this will be the year more then 40% of people that could vote will not vote.

I don't want LIBS to Vote.

Quote from: Rotwang on September 25, 2016, 11:43:09 AM
I don't want LIBS to Vote.

Too late they crossed over and voted for Trump. 

Do not be a Glen Beck Crybaby.

Anyone who does not vote or does not vote for Trump is helping hillary.

The future of the Supreme Court and the future of America will be decided in this election.  If you do not vote for Trump you are helping hillary. 

In fact, this is the very last chance the Republican Party will have to ever win the White House. 

The demographics are rapidly changing.  They will change much quicker if hillary gets in and brings in millions more of muslims and mexicans.

Stand up and be a man.  Help make America Great Again.  I gurantee you all, that anyone who does not vote for Trump and thus contributes to a hillary victory will go to their grave regretting it.  Most especially if hillary wins.

Principles are principles and principles are good.  Yet there is no greater principle than to do everything possible to prevent a hillary victory.  Anyone who cannot grasp that is severely deluded.

Sure, I like most conservatives would have loved to see Cruz win but unfortunately that did not happen.  One can cry like Glen Beck and try and tear down Trump or one can understand that with a Trump victory that will eventually help Cruz to rise up once again and seize the party leadership.  Whereas on the other hand a hillary victory will make that impossible. 

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Do not be a Glen Beck Crybaby.

Anyone who does not vote or does not vote for Trump is helping hillary.

The future of the Supreme Court and the future of America will be decided in this election.  If you do not vote for Trump you are helping hillary. 

In fact, this is the very last chance the Republican Party will have to ever win the White House. 

The demographics are rapidly changing.  They will change much quicker if hillary gets in and brings in millions more of muslims and mexicans.

Stand up and be a man.  Help make America Great Again.  I gurantee you all, that anyone who does not vote for Trump and thus contributes to a hillary victory will go to their grave regretting it.  Most especially if hillary wins.

Principles are principles and principles are good.  Yet there is no greater principle than to do everything possible to prevent a hillary victory.  Anyone who cannot grasp that is severely deluded.

Sure, I like most conservatives would have loved to see Cruz win but unfortunately that did not happen.  One can cry like Glen Beck and try and tear down Trump or one can understand that with a Trump victory that will eventually help Cruz to rise up once again and seize the party leadership.  Whereas on the other hand a hillary victory will make that impossible.

I myself will go to my grave with a big smile on my face knowing I did not vote for the less evil dem, but for my Principles. 

You on the other hand will own trump.  By the way, trump will be bring up one of his kids.   

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Do not be a Glen Beck Crybaby.

Anyone who does not vote or does not vote for Trump is helping hillary.

The future of the Supreme Court and the future of America will be decided in this election.  If you do not vote for Trump you are helping hillary. 

In fact, this is the very last chance the Republican Party will have to ever win the White House. 

The demographics are rapidly changing.  They will change much quicker if hillary gets in and brings in millions more of muslims and mexicans.

Stand up and be a man.  Help make America Great Again.  I gurantee you all, that anyone who does not vote for Trump and thus contributes to a hillary victory will go to their grave regretting it.  Most especially if hillary wins.

Principles are principles and principles are good.  Yet there is no greater principle than to do everything possible to prevent a hillary victory.  Anyone who cannot grasp that is severely deluded.

Sure, I like most conservatives would have loved to see Cruz win but unfortunately that did not happen.  One can cry like Glen Beck and try and tear down Trump or one can understand that with a Trump victory that will eventually help Cruz to rise up once again and seize the party leadership.  Whereas on the other hand a hillary victory will make that impossible.

What a crock of BS and ignorance.

How do you answer this?   This doesn't have anything to do with Beck, plenty of us here think he's half-nuts.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/9447/report-top-trump-advisor-privately-met-top-kremlin-hank-berrien#

QuoteOne of Donald Trump's top foreign policy advisors is under investigation by U.S. intelligence for privately communicating with Kremlin officials, possibly to undercut American foreign policy by seeking to lift sanctions implemented after the Russian annexation of Ukraine. In addition, he met with a Russian  intelligence official who is responsible for gathering intelligence about the U.S. election.

Carter Page, who was named by Trump as one of five advisers "that we are dealing with" when The Washington Post asked him to name his "foreign policy team" last March, met with Igor Sechin, the Russian deputy prime minister who runs Rosneft, Russian's leading oil company. That's disturbing because in August 2014, the Treasury Department, calling Sechin, "utterly loyal to Vladimir Putin — a key component to his current standing," sanctioned Sechin because of Russia's "illegitimate and unlawful actions in the Ukraine." According to Western intelligence, Page and Sechin discussed the lifting of sanctions.

Additionally, U.S. intelligence agencies report that Page also met with Igor Diveykin, who is Russian deputy chief for internal policy, and thus responsible for intelligence collected by Russian agencies about the U.S. election. Former undersecretary of defense for intelligence Mike Vickers recently asserted that the Russian cyberattacks that revolved around the U.S. election were "beyond the pale."

Open your eyes and start vetting Trump instead of just drinking the Russian Koolaide, Comrade!

Take off the darn blinders, look around, and maybe you'll be asking yourself, "WHY are WE, Constitutional Conservatives reluctant to turn over a smidgen of political power to a man with the wrong past, and disturbing connections in Moscow.  Your "guarantee" is meaningless, how you going to back it up?  Gonna hand over the title to your house, car and 10% of future earnings?

Mitt Romney, whom I didn't care for, actually had it correct, Russia is our greatest enemy - and now, you're blindly advocating we all just pull the lever for Communist sympathizers?   ....what are you, a Sean Hannity or Michael Savage fan...!?  Doesn't the Moscow-Trump connection bother you in the least?

Quote from: blades on September 25, 2016, 06:40:12 AM

FOR THE RECORD THE ONLY REASON i STOOD WITH TED WAS DUE TO his knowledge and respect for the constitution and nothing more...he is a republican after all...
so his support for trump is disturbing after all that has happened but what do you expect from a GOPer..they protect their own even if its a fake like trump...

PARTY FIRST and fck the people..

my biggest problem is that he would rather pass the buck to his children then stand on principle and fight...

as for me I only have a few more yrs of fighting strength left and would rather fight now instead of dumping it on my children..

IF THERE BE A FIGHT BRING IT TO ME SO MY CHILDREN MAY LIVE IN PEACE!!!

I almost want to vote for hilary to bring this to a head but would not want it to cause a mandate to encourage the evil that has come to us ...anyway the constitution has taken maybe its last hit ...who knows ....time will tell

I am angry at cruz right now ...he should have just kept his mouth shut ...I may in the future support him if that chance arises ...again who knows if that chance will come


we have passed this on to our children to many times and it has to stop...

when I say we I do mean D's & R's...cause I have never voted for one of them at the fed. level...EVER..cause I learned at a young age what these people are

I need more coffee

Well said and I agree.

Quote from: mrconservative on September 23, 2016, 11:42:05 AM
Is there any political person to trust anymore?

My theory is Cruz was under pressure from his donors to endorse Trump or risk them withholding funds for his 2018 reelection campaign which maybe a tight one if Michael McCaul runs against him as expected. They're already peeved with Cruz as is for his stunt in the convention. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/us/politics/influential-donors-criticize-ted-cruz-for-his-gop-convention-speech.html

Quote from: Rotwang on September 25, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
I trust Cruz to do what is best for HIMSELF first.

And for US second.

Which is a whole lot better than most of them, which NEVER do what is in OUR interest.

I disagree.  I believe Ted did what he felt was best for country in the long term and did what was best for his family and himself second. I believe he's worried as hell as to what's just around the corner for this country and that ultimately is going to affect his family and his career.

Yes, I think you are absolutely correct.  We live in very dangerous times and people need to wake up and learn to think for themselves.  You cannot rely on the media, they have doubled down on hillary and are doing everything in their power to stop Trump.

Ted Cruz is a honorable man, he fought as hard as he could, and he is a very intelligent man and even more a very wise man.

A man who despite his loss is willing to endorse his opponent because he understands Trump is the best hope America has.  Please try and spread the word, our enemies are legion and unless those who support Trump work very hard--the forces of darkness will prevail.

All True Conservatives should take the lead of Ted Cruz and vote for Trump.

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM

All True Conservatives should take the lead of Ted Cruz and vote for Trump.

Trump should take the lead of Ted Cruz.

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Do not be a Glen Beck Crybaby.

Anyone who does not vote or does not vote for Trump is helping hillary.

The future of the Supreme Court and the future of America will be decided in this election.  If you do not vote for Trump you are helping hillary. 

In fact, this is the very last chance the Republican Party will have to ever win the White House. 

The demographics are rapidly changing.  They will change much quicker if hillary gets in and brings in millions more of muslims and mexicans.

Stand up and be a man.  Help make America Great Again.  I gurantee you all, that anyone who does not vote for Trump and thus contributes to a hillary victory will go to their grave regretting it.  Most especially if hillary wins.

Principles are principles and principles are good.  Yet there is no greater principle than to do everything possible to prevent a hillary victory.  Anyone who cannot grasp that is severely deluded.

Sure, I like most conservatives would have loved to see Cruz win but unfortunately that did not happen.  One can cry like Glen Beck and try and tear down Trump or one can understand that with a Trump victory that will eventually help Cruz to rise up once again and seize the party leadership.  Whereas on the other hand a hillary victory will make that impossible.

I call bullshit on your "sky is falling" crap.

You vote for the liberal democrat Trump that is your choice because that is what liberal democrats do. They vote for.... well liberal democrats.

Now while you're sitting in your mommy's basement playing video games and eating Cheetos you seem to have missed the fact that the SCOTUS is lost already. Case to point. What happened with the Obamacare ruling with the very so called Conservative Roberts. Oh That's right we lost that to the SCOTUS.

Oh that was years ago you say in mommy's basement. Let me bring you up to date. Texas lost their abortion ruling in the SCOTUS 6-3 in June 2016. What say you sky is falling...?

Wait young liberal grass hopper there is more. Them two Marines that tried to get their 2nd Amendment rights back because a misdemeanor and that's right they lost their right to Bear Arms by the SCOTUS. What's say you living off of mommy...?

So please take your SCOTUS crap to the toilet. My friend we lost the SCOTUS years ago.

You my liberal friend is the reason the United States of America is in this state. If you and your 12 million cross over voters was so worried about the end times of the United States why didn't you bring this same argument to the primary...? Why didn't you cry from high Heaven about open primaries...? You was silent. You tip toed around like a thief in the night so you can have your liberal treat Cheeto Trump.

Well you have him now and he can't win. So now you want me to cross over and help push the lyin' liberal Trump to victory. You can kiss my Constitutional Conservative ass all the why to the Supreme Court of the United States. . Ya hear me boy.

Now as far as Ted Cruz is concern. I dogged him for the last two days and I'll sum it best this why. Ted Cruz was a bad investment for me. I dropped that investment and i'm taking my lose. I'm my own man and make my own calls while you let liberal Breitbart pull you around by your nose ring. You're a parrot at best. Stop the mimics of the liberal Breitbart and the Drudge Report.

Now tell me where i'm wrong foolish child...?

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
Yes, I think you are absolutely correct.  We live in very dangerous times and people need to wake up and learn to think for themselves.  You cannot rely on the media, they have doubled down on hillary and are doing everything in their power to stop Trump.

Ted Cruz is a honorable man, he fought as hard as he could, and he is a very intelligent man and even more a very wise man.

A man who despite his loss is willing to endorse his opponent because he understands Trump is the best hope America has.  Please try and spread the word, our enemies are legion and unless those who support Trump work very hard--the forces of darkness will prevail.

All True Conservatives should take the lead of Ted Cruz and vote for Trump.

Not sure if your a liberal or just a child but I can assure you that Trump is not the answer and is not much different than Hillary. He is anti constitution simply because he is ignorant to the constitution and is a huge NY liberal who will govern according to his lifetime of being a liberal and supporting their policies. I will never sell out my conservative values and convictions to him or any other liberal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

Why is this not even being discussed?? True or not we dont know but if it were Cruz or Rubio it would be all over the media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usGAeBMDUoM