While Republican delegates prepare to nominate Donald Trump in Cleveland in two weeks, Trump provided yet another piece of evidence that he's not particularly concerned with the success of the party he has hijacked. New York Times Magazine asked Trump about the importance of maintaining a Republican Senate. Here was Trump's almost incomprehensible answer – an answer that would be utterly incomprehensible if Trump were actually a conservative or a serious Republican: "Well, I'd like them to do that. But I don't mind being a free agent, either."

Of course he wouldn't. He has no intention of making conservative priorities his own.

Imagine the scenario Trump says he wouldn't mind: a Democratic Senate. You can forget about a conservative on the Supreme Court. That notion would be dead on arrival. You could also forget about Trump's supposed immigration priorities, including the fabled Trump Wall and more stringent deportations. So the two top priorities for conservatives – replacing Justice Scalia with someone of like mind, and ending the Democratic strategy of importing potential voters – would be an impossibility.

He's acting like it, too. According to Ryan Williams, strategist with the 2012 Romney presidential campaign, "Traditionally, the nominee has a robust campaign that absorbs the RNC effort and works in tandem with the down-ballot campaigns. We did that with Romney in 2012. This time around, there's a complete void at the presidential level. Trump's trying to play a game of baseball and hasn't put out an infield."

So far, the polls don't show Trump doing significant damage down ballot. But the fact that he doesn't seem to care should tell Republicans everything they need to know about his priorities.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7446/trump-says-he-doesnt-mind-losing-senate-democrats-ben-shapiro

Both heard and read that - and was completely floored!   I don't think he expects to win, but is milking the lime-light for all it's worth.

It's really FUNNY to listen to the media still trying to fawn over the guy, their tone betrays them - they think he's crazy.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 14, 2016, 04:10:00 PM
Both heard and read that - and was completely floored!   I don't think he expects to win, but is milking the lime-light for all it's worth.

It's really FUNNY to listen to the media still trying to fawn over the guy, their tone betrays them - they think he's crazy.

Yep, almost as if he channeled Barnum, of Barnum and Bailey fame, and put together the biggest freak show on short notice.
With the exception of Cruz, most consider it the equivalent of a Hollywood awards show, full of self aggrandizing BS, and most won't tune in till Cruz speaks.

Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2016, 04:22:42 PM
Yep, almost as if he channeled Barnum, of Barnum and Bailey fame, and put together the biggest freak show on short notice.
With the exception of Cruz, most consider it the equivalent of a Hollywood awards show, full of self aggrandizing BS, and most won't tune in till Cruz speaks.

Really is a head-scratcher... How can you find a weaker candidate than Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders?
If Trump doesn't mind seeing the House and Senate go Democrat ... I guess that means he knows his policy would just sail through both houses.  Obama's 3rd term, via Hillary or Donald

Quote from: Hoofer on July 14, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
Really is a head-scratcher... How can you find a weaker candidate than Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders?
If Trump doesn't mind seeing the House and Senate go Democrat ... I guess that means he knows his policy would just sail through both houses.  Obama's 3rd term, via Hillary or Donald

Yep, there's literally no other way to view it.

 

Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2016, 04:38:42 PM
Yep, there's literally no other way to view it.

I guess the next logical step, "Trump-a-loons don't mind if Trump goes full Socialist"?

I rather doubt that Trumpster would be nominating conservatives for the USSC.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 14, 2016, 05:16:26 PM
I guess the next logical step, "Trump-a-loons don't mind if Trump goes full Socialist"?

I doubt Trump even knows the difference in capitalism and socialism, seeing how he's the epitome of crony capitalist, just another form of socialism.

Quote from: tac on July 14, 2016, 05:25:37 PM
I rather doubt that Trumpster would be nominating conservatives for the USSC.

Ya think? 

Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2016, 06:44:50 PM
I doubt Trump even knows the difference in capitalism and socialism, seeing how he's the epitome of crony capitalist, just another form of socialism.

Sure... he knows the difference.

Capitalism = Trump can declare bankruptcy, and make a profit.
Crony Capitalism = Trump's enemies get bailed out after declaring bankruptcy.
Socialism = The Tax payer bails out your failed business.

It sure works for him!

Quote from: Hoofer on July 16, 2016, 03:11:13 PM
Sure... he knows the difference.

Capitalism = Trump can declare bankruptcy, and make a profit.
Crony Capitalism = Trump's enemies get bailed out after declaring bankruptcy.
Socialism = The Tax payer bails out your failed business.

It sure works for him!

See? It's not that he doesn't need the base, he knows the base despises everything the lib stands for, or is that, stands against?
Never really understood if libs actually stand for anything, considering all they ever do is destroy.

Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
See? It's not that he doesn't need the base, he knows the base despises everything the lib stands for, or is that, stands against?
Never really understood if libs actually stand for anything, considering all they ever do is destroy.

Does the GOPe think:

a.  We're just like the Democrats, Trump is a good choice - call it a one-off and we can get TEA and Conservatives out of the party.  Kill 2 birds with one stone.
b.  We can control Trump, he's a little crazy, so was Hitler, and the German establishment thought they could control him - Trump is not Hitler, we're smart, what could possibly go wrong?
c.  They don't mind falling back to 100% defense, after all, they're use to it, and actually did better as a minority party, quite comfortable as habitual losers.
d.  Trump can win the election... and Hillary is such a weak candidate, who better to go up against her than Donald - MEH, he/she might just win?
e.  Trump is better than Cruz ....?
f.   It's OK Trump plays spoiler - TEA and Conservatives cannot muster an organized opposition, they'd rather see the party go down in flames than give another inch to TEA.
g.  They are powerless to stop Trump, without wholesale protests and alienation of the precious moderate voter?
h.   It's Trump's to lose, he has no ground game, he's made a point to publically criticize the GOPe, he's not fund raising for the down-ballot candidates.  TEA and Conservatives don't want him, neither does the GOPe, he doesn't want to play by our rules - so he'll have to learn the hard way.
I.   DUH!   We (GOPe) don't know HOW to stop this guy, and none of us are willing to try to oust Donald and save the GOP.  The Trump Train is rolling, we can't stop it without harming our own careers?
j.   Nobody likes the establishment, look how popular Cruz was as an anti-establishment candidate - at least Trump is "pliable" and if he kicks-the-bucket in office, we got Pence.... ABC (Anyone But Cruz).
k.  Hey, it might be sexy, walking and talking Democrat with an "R" behind your name.  Obama has his gender confusion, we got our party confusion - what's the big deal, we're still the establishment!
l.   Democrat or Republican, who cares, we're all establishment in DC and not budging.
m.  TEA & Conservatives WILL NOT LEAVE US... we double-dog dare them to.
n.   Trump has hinted he's got a dossier on each of the GOPe leaders, we've got to allow him to run.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 16, 2016, 04:30:45 PM
Does the GOPe think:

a.  We're just like the Democrats, Trump is a good choice - call it a one-off and we can get TEA and Conservatives out of the party.  Kill 2 birds with one stone.
b.  We can control Trump, he's a little crazy, so was Hitler, and the German establishment thought they could control him - Trump is not Hitler, we're smart, what could possibly go wrong?
c.  They don't mind falling back to 100% defense, after all, they're use to it, and actually did better as a minority party, quite comfortable as habitual losers.
d.  Trump can win the election... and Hillary is such a weak candidate, who better to go up against her than Donald - MEH, he/she might just win?
e.  Trump is better than Cruz ....?
f.   It's OK Trump plays spoiler - TEA and Conservatives cannot muster an organized opposition, they'd rather see the party go down in flames than give another inch to TEA.
g.  They are powerless to stop Trump, without wholesale protests and alienation of the precious moderate voter?
h.   It's Trump's to lose, he has no ground game, he's made a point to publically criticize the GOPe, he's not fund raising for the down-ballot candidates.  TEA and Conservatives don't want him, neither does the GOPe, he doesn't want to play by our rules - so he'll have to learn the hard way.
I.   DUH!   We (GOPe) don't know HOW to stop this guy, and none of us are willing to try to oust Donald and save the GOP.  The Trump Train is rolling, we can't stop it without harming our own careers?
j.   Nobody likes the establishment, look how popular Cruz was as an anti-establishment candidate - at least Trump is "pliable" and if he kicks-the-bucket in office, we got Pence.... ABC (Anyone But Cruz).
k.  Hey, it might be sexy, walking and talking Democrat with an "R" behind your name.  Obama has his gender confusion, we got our party confusion - what's the big deal, we're still the establishment!
l.   Democrat or Republican, who cares, we're all establishment in DC and not budging.
m.  TEA & Conservatives WILL NOT LEAVE US... we double-dog dare them to.
n.   Trump has hinted he's got a dossier on each of the GOPe leaders, we've got to allow him to run.

Damn, pooter crashed right in the middle of what most all future historians would have referred to as the Holy Grail of Conservative thought.
Well, now that nature deprived future generations of my awesome intellect, they're stuck with this piece of rambling...

I believe the biggest mistake most moderate Pubs make, is assuming the GOP is a separate entity from the Dim party.
Truth is, the GOP was taken over decades ago by the Dim party, and have been doing their bidding ever since.
If you were like me and everyone else, and wondered all these years why the GOP seemed to purposely cave on nearly every issue, eg GW giving Teddy control over schools?
That right there is evidence that incrementally, the GOP has been giving away the farm, not for their own selfish reasons, today's GOP leadership are Dims, and because the people that keep the Dim party in power, are the same exact money brokers supporting the GOP, and none of them give one shit about the values of this nation, because they know there is always a new sucker willing to sellout his constituents.
Soros?'
Yeah, these people could have an (
Palin is a good example of someone selling out their values for personal enrichment.
I can honestly say, there is not amount of money that could make me sellout to Marxists.

Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Damn, pooter crashed right in the middle of what most all future historians would have referred to as the Holy Grail of Conservative thought.
Well, now that nature deprived future generations of my awesome intellect, they're stuck with this piece of rambling...

I believe the biggest mistake most moderate Pubs make, is assuming the GOP is a separate entity from the Dim party.
Truth is, the GOP was taken over decades ago by the Dim party, and have been doing their bidding ever since.
If you were like me and everyone else, and wondered all these years why the GOP seemed to purposely cave on nearly every issue, eg GW giving Teddy control over schools?
That right there is evidence that incrementally, the GOP has been giving away the farm, not for their own selfish reasons, today's GOP leadership are Dims, and because the people that keep the Dim party in power, are the same exact money brokers supporting the GOP, and none of them give one shit about the values of this nation, because they know there is always a new sucker willing to sellout his constituents.
Soros?'
Yeah, these people could have an (
Palin is a good example of someone selling out their values for personal enrichment.
I can honestly say, there is not amount of money that could make me sellout to Marxists.

Absolutely, dead on!

The most difficult decision a Liberal faces in December....

"hmmmm..... who do I vote for, Hillary or Donald....  and I can't pull BOTH levers!"