Question For Trump supporters

Started by Solar, June 29, 2016, 05:55:51 AM

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mdgiles

Quote from: Shooterman on July 03, 2016, 11:13:03 AM
Touche!
Indeed! Please don't steal that last fading hope from me; that some how, some way, the Republican party will come to it's senses. Be nice to hold that dream for a little while longer - before the start of the nightmare!
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

Hoofer

I found it!  The reason for supporting Donald Trump.  It was right there, so obvious - Eric Erickson actually makes a rather compelling case for supporting Trump:  If you care about your wishy-washy neighbor.

QuoteIt's about the appointments. From judges to cabinet positions we have to support Trump because of these appointments.

But there is a common theme beyond those takes that continues to strike me and it is extremely pervasive among those who plant their flag in principle. It amounts to "Please support Trump to stop making the rest of us look like we sold out."

I see it from CPAC'ers, talk radio voices, TV hosts, and pundits. Those of us who cannot bring ourselves to get on board with Trump need to do so because we're making the rest of the team look bad.

I think they're just going to have to look bad. 

http://theresurgent.com/a-common-theme-among-conservatives-for-trump/
(my emphasis in bold)

I'll offer to the Trump-a-loons, IF you'd like to feel good about the election, write in Ted Cruz.  You can sleep at night, whether he's in the WH or not.  None of that remorse, "How could I have been so stupid and pull the lever for Trump when I knew he was going to lose to Hilllary!"  Yep, you can be a clear conscience Conservative - and if it turns into a squeaker between Hillary vs Ted, it might be YOUR VOTE that puts Ted over the top!  So, stop looking "bad" and feeling guilty about a potential bad decision when you know Cruz is your man.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

Shooterman

Quote from: walkstall on July 03, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
No just asking, as I know your from the state of Texas young man and a Southerner at heart.

My first allegiance is to my state. I am Southern by the Grace of God. I offer no apologies for either.
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Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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Charliemyboy

Quote from: MichaelJ on June 30, 2016, 11:06:02 AM
I don't think you will find any true Trump "supporters" here and neither am I but I will vote for him for one reason. The next President will likely appoint 3 SCJ in the next 4 years and we know 2 things about that

1. If Hillary is elected they WILL for certain be liberals and will control the agenda of this country for the next 20 years, no matter who is in the Congress or Executive Branches. We have all seen too painfully how they can shape this country with decisions that find things in the Constitution that are not there while ignoring plainly written words which are. Say goodbye to a lot of things we hold dear if she is elected
2. While Trump is a flip flopper, we have at least a small chance he would nominate candidates to the Court who would not overturn the basic core principles the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution. With Hillary there is no chance in Hades that would happen. Pick your poison, just remember, some poison is very long acting.

Michael, I agree with you and will vote for Trump for the same reason.  Writing in someone's name as a presidential choice might give one some satisfaction, but it is throwing away their vote and amounts to a vote for Hillary Clinton.  I am not stupid and  I have a degree from a prestigious university.  However, I am a realist.  I know what we will get with Hillary Clinton--Supreme Court justices who will do away with parts of the First and Second  Amendments.  I don't know that will not be true of Trump, but there is no doubt with Hillary.  And while I know that Trump cannot deport every illegal alien in the US, I do believe he will slow down immigration from countries who support and produce terrorism.  Hillary is on their side.

I value my vote and will not throw it away for some pie in the sky.  Go ahead--do your worst.  Sticks and stones....Sticks and stones.......Whatever.

Shooterman

Quote from: Hoofer on July 03, 2016, 03:15:36 PM
I found it!  The reason for supporting Donald Trump.  It was right there, so obvious - Eric Erickson actually makes a rather compelling case for supporting Trump:  If you care about your wishy-washy neighbor.

http://theresurgent.com/a-common-theme-among-conservatives-for-trump/
(my emphasis in bold)

I'll offer to the Trump-a-loons, IF you'd like to feel good about the election, write in Ted Cruz.  You can sleep at night, whether he's in the WH or not.  None of that remorse, "How could I have been so stupid and pull the lever for Trump when I knew he was going to lose to Hilllary!"  Yep, you can be a clear conscience Conservative - and if it turns into a squeaker between Hillary vs Ted, it might be YOUR VOTE that puts Ted over the top!  So, stop looking "bad" and feeling guilty about a potential bad decision when you know Cruz is your man.

Trump-a-loons? :lol:
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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TFields

I haven't seen any posting today on that unbelievably stupid and suicidal Cruz write-in campaign thread so I'm really hoping you guys came to your senses and gave that up.
I'm a fan of Cruz's to be sure but the candidate that conservatives have been needing for years just won the nomination handily.

The conspiracy theory that Donald Trump is some covert left wing Manchurian candidate was cooked up by the GOP Establishment and it's co-opted and paid-under-the-table members of True Conservative Inc. media to protect the Wall Street/K Street globalist racket that the Republicans are running together with the Democrats that all members involved with are financially benefiting from.

The #neverTrump crowd is the same reaction you get from a battered wife or a group of abused children when one of their siblings gets to brave and stands up to the abuser (the left). Sundance at Conservative Treehouse rightly diagnosing it as "Battered Conservative Syndrome" with excuses about how "Trump's not a conservative" and "Trump's a secret liberal who gave money to Democrats" being used to cover up for this cowardice crap. While not quite as conservative on everything I would like the way Cruz is he has absolute the right stance on the most pertinent issues that we have right now.

We finally have a candidate that knows how to effectively fight the left (especially the left's main attack dogs- the media) and most importantly is completely unafraid of them.

Just as important is that he is an outsider with highly exeptional meneuvering capability that is our best chance to bust up the Wall Street/K Street Uniparty apparatus that locks conservatives out during primaries and the government generally.

That's why I say all conservatives need to back Trump.

Sauce

All your crap has been answered, exposed and refuted to death.  You aren't changing any minds on this board and your obviously not a conservative

So I will simply state my initials, where I'm from and my intentions:

JK    Akron, Ohio        Never Trump/Writing in CRUZ


I sincerely hope that Trump continues being Trump and the Republican party comes to its senses.....judging by him tweeting neo Nazi anti Hilary/ anti Jew graphics late last week, I would say the odds are getting better.

walkstall

Quote from: Shooterman on July 03, 2016, 05:05:35 PM
My first allegiance is to my state. I am Southern by the Grace of God. I offer no apologies for either.

I did not ask for an apologia for either.   Did I stutter along the way asking my question.   :popcorn:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

walkstall

Quote from: TFields on July 03, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
I haven't seen any posting today on that unbelievably stupid and suicidal Cruz write-in campaign thread so I'm really hoping you guys came to your senses and gave that up.


Well let see you started posting in this thread 3 times yesterday and back out.   :lol:

Then today this is the only post you opened up and looked at, you almost took 1hr. to post all your BS that you posted.   I smell a shill not a Cruz fan, thanks for coming in and playing.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

walkstall

Quote from: TFields on July 03, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
That's why I say all conservatives need to back Trump.

GOP donor Paul Singer says Trump would cause a depression.

snip~
hedge fund executive and major Republican donor believes Donald Trump's policies would spell big trouble for the U.S. economy.


Paul Singer, head of $27 billion Elliott Management, said Wednesday that he may not vote for anyone in the race between presumptive nominees Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton, and joked he is considering writing himself in.


"The most impactful of the economic policies that I recall him coming out for are these anti-trade policies," Singer said during a panel discussion at the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado. "And I think if he actually stuck to those policies and gets elected president, it's close to a guarantee of a global depression, widespread global depression."

more @
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/29/gop-donor-paul-singer-says-trump-would-cause-a-depression.html?__source=xfinity%7Cheadline&par=xfinity
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

TFields

As you can see folks with J. R. from Akron, Ohio; a typical NeverTrumper, immediately claims that all my points about Trump have been "refuted to death" without even engaging anything said then officially pronounces me "not a conservative" with even knowing anything about what I believe except that I'm a Trump supporter. (I'm actually a Christian evangelical who check every fiscal and social box- I'm as conservative as you logically can be) He then proceeds to defend Hillary against Trump with left wing smears like " Neo-Nazi" and "anti-Jewish".

This shows how NeverTrump-ism is an acute psyschological disorder caused by Battered Conservative Syndrome from years of left wing verbal abuse or the sight of Trump's confident attitude and talk of America winning causing flashbacks from high days of the popular jock with the prom queen girlfriend giving the NeverTrumper wedgies in the locker room.

As David Horowitz has rightly observed, the left has won virtually every major battle against conservatives.
The left has always considered politics to be war by other means while conservatives think they're seriously going to sit down and have a substantive debate of ideas with a bunch of hated-filled secular religious nuts who literally believe the United States and its right wing are a bigger threat to humankind than Islamic terrorism and must be destroyed. Enough with this stupidity! Stop being pussies and fight fire with fire!

walkstall

Quote from: TFields on July 03, 2016, 08:50:14 PM
As you can see folks with J. R. from Akron, Ohio; a typical NeverTrumper, immediately claims that all my points about Trump have been "refuted to death" without even engaging anything said then officially pronounces me "not a conservative" with even knowing anything about what I believe except that I'm a Trump supporter. (I'm actually a Christian evangelical who check every fiscal and social box- I'm as conservative as you logically can be) He then proceeds to defend Hillary against Trump with left wing smears like " Neo-Nazi" and "anti-Jewish".

This shows how NeverTrump-ism is an acute psyschological disorder caused by Battered Conservative Syndrome from years of left wing verbal abuse or the sight of Trump's confident attitude and talk of America winning causing flashbacks from high days of the popular jock with the prom queen girlfriend giving the NeverTrumper wedgies in the locker room.

As David Horowitz has rightly observed, the left has won virtually every major battle against conservatives.
The left has always considered politics to be war by other means while conservatives think they're seriously going to sit down and have a substantive debate of ideas with a bunch of hated-filled secular religious nuts who literally believe the United States and its right wing are a bigger threat to humankind than Islamic terrorism and must be destroyed. Enough with this stupidity! Stop being pussies and fight fire with fire!

This took you over and hour to post on a Conservative TEA Political Forum.   :popcorn:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

TFields

#57
Hey walkstall, I seriously hope you guys gave up on that ridiculous Cruz write-in campaign.

I also don't trust any economic analysis from Peter Singer or any other member of the Wall Street/GOP globalist donor class and you shouldn't either.

Here's the problem:

The Citizens United SCOTUS ruling was both a victory and a defeat for our side. It was constitutionally correct but it also allowed money to flow freely from international Wall Street corporations to US Chamber of Commerce. USCoC then lobbies both the Democrat and Republican parties for Wall Street global corperate interests which include what are now USCoC top legislative priorities:

Full Anmensty for illegal immigrants (for cheap manual labor).

Full implimentation of Obamacare (that way they can offload employee healthcare packages onto the government thereby reducing overhead costs)

Full implementation of Common Core Educational standards

So neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want to repeal Obamacare- the Republicans just need to act in front of the camera to keep the optics up for their base. Both parties also want amnesty and Common Core. This is why Obama only has averaged about 2.5 vetoes a year for the 7 years he's been in office and why no serious attempt has been made to get rid of Obamacare and the House has never even tried to cut the funding to anything no matter what Obama has done- on the contrary they've funded all of it without batting an eye.

The only opposition we have to what's going on is Trump.
 

walkstall

A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

TFields

#59
I heard another NeverTrumper on this thread talk about how Erik Erikson has a scoop on Donald Trump. So I thought I'd give a scoop on Erik Erickson (the guy in here in Macon, Georgia that said that Jeb Bush was the most conservative governer he knows), no to mention some other NeverTrump faux conservative media shrills.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/30/eric-errickson-website-resurgent-paid-by-pro-cruzanti-trump-our-principles-pac/