Quote from: Solid Right on April 25, 2016, 09:21:43 PM
Solar --

I have watched it in dismay for the last 28 years.

Sorry, I forgot to ask, but why only 28 years?

Quotere:  "Cruz is not suffering the negatives Trump does" -- Not among the general populace, but the so-called "Establishment" really hates him and will stop at nothing to deny him the nomination.  Actually, they hate him more than Trump, because, unlike Trump, Cruz actually has core principles (Imagine that?) and he won't deviate from them.

And I should care what a bunch of leftists in the GOP think?

QuoteMy only "negative" against Cruz is the lack of true "executive experience."  That's partly why I like the Walker/Cruz ticket.

Take care,
Russ

Actually Cruz has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is by far a better organizer than Trump, and has far more experience in running government than Trump.
Trump's accomplishments amount to using the govt. like a weapon against his enemies eg. (Kelo against an old widow in an attempt to steal her home), uses the courts and bankruptcy like one uses the bank for loans.

These are not what the business world considers accomplished, in fact we consider them toxic and avoid doing business with them, they are a leach on the system, and having one of these caustic individuals in office is a virtual guarantee that crony corporatism will our downfall.
The Wall st bailout will look an Easter egg roll in comparison.

Solar --

re:  "Sorry, I forgot to ask, but why only 28 years?" -- The watching has been a lot longer, but the dismay set in (again) when Reagan left and we discovered that H. W. Bush was exactly what we thought he was -- a big government guy.  It's been a long and rarely interrupted downhill slide since then.

re:  "And I should care what a bunch of leftists in the GOP think?" --  Well, yeah, you should, because they are enemies, and it is useful to know and care what they think -- on the rare occasion that they actually do.

re:  "Actually Cruz has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is by far a better organizer than Trump" --  Oh, my, that has been fun to watch!  So much entertainment, and I didn't even have to buy a ticket.

re:  "and has far more experience in running government than Trump."  --  Trump is not my measure in this instance, or any other that comes easily to mind.   I usually favor governors because they have, at least, had to run things and often be the final decision maker.  I don't normally favor direct ascension from Senate to Presidency, because Senators spend more time talking about the problem than actually doing anything about it.  JFK was probably best example of the shock that sets in when he realizes that he actually has to make a decision -- and then act on it.  LBJ might have been an exception there, but he was Majority Leader long enough to know how to run things.  (I still despise the bastard, but he had learned how to run things.)

Cruz has not had that kind of experience.  His own campaign has probably been the largest thing he has had to run, albeit he has done a masterful job of that.

Work awaits in the great outdoors (well, maybe semi-great).

Take care,
Russ

Quote from: Solid Right on April 25, 2016, 07:39:17 PM
Solar --

Thanks for the references, but I already kinda know what has been happening to our country -- I have watched it in dismay for the last 28 years.

I appreciate the sincerity of your prediction, but I think I will have alternative plans in case you're wrong.

Take care,
Russ

Reading this exchange is akin to listening to Rush Limbaugh.  Like most of his show, it covers, over and over, the Trump strategy, the GOPe's reaction...  that kind of analysis is interesting for about 10 minutes. 

Russ, I'd like to hear your comparison of the candidates on positions, you sound like you've got it well thought out, maybe for the sake of the casual readers here, you could expound a bit?

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 07:11:17 AM
Solar --

re:  "Sorry, I forgot to ask, but why only 28 years?" -- The watching has been a lot longer, but the dismay set in (again) when Reagan left and we discovered that H. W. Bush was exactly what we thought he was -- a big government guy.  It's been a long and rarely interrupted downhill slide since then.

re:  "And I should care what a bunch of leftists in the GOP think?" --  Well, yeah, you should, because they are enemies, and it is useful to know and care what they think -- on the rare occasion that they actually do.

Oh I keep track of them, but I no longer fear them or their plans for the party, they're quickly becoming irrelevant and soon to be out of power.

Quotere:  "Actually Cruz has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is by far a better organizer than Trump" --  Oh, my, that has been fun to watch!  So much entertainment, and I didn't even have to buy a ticket.

re:  "and has far more experience in running government than Trump."  --  Trump is not my measure in this instance, or any other that comes easily to mind.   I usually favor governors because they have, at least, had to run things and often be the final decision maker.  I don't normally favor direct ascension from Senate to Presidency, because Senators spend more time talking about the problem than actually doing anything about it.  JFK was probably best example of the shock that sets in when he realizes that he actually has to make a decision -- and then act on it.  LBJ might have been an exception there, but he was Majority Leader long enough to know how to run things.  (I still despise the bastard, but he had learned how to run things.)

Cruz has not had that kind of experience.  His own campaign has probably been the largest thing he has had to run, albeit he has done a masterful job of that.

Work awaits in the great outdoors (well, maybe semi-great).

Take care,
Russ

Interesting. If every entrepreneur was forced to wait to prove their worth, we'd still be waiting on electricity.
Hell, if not for someone taking a chance on me, this forum wouldn't even exist and I'd probably be stuck in some dead end job in the city bitching that someone else needs to do something about commies in both party's.

In other words. We're still stuck with a two party nepotistic dynastic system that feeds like a system of Royalty to hierarchy, where Kennedy's and the Bush' share power back and forth.
The biggest problem I have with Trump is his connection to the left and his complete lack of values.

Not only am I willing to give Cruz a chance, I'm backing him 100% as the enemy of the left including the GOP.

Ya know, I read the thread title and chuckle, because I realize just how irrelevant Ann has become since stabbing Conservatives in the back.
Ann could go full throated for Cruz, and quite honestly, I'd question what Cruz did that would create admiration from an Establishment whore.
Shame on you Ted!

Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2016, 09:10:12 AM
Ann could go full throated for Cruz, and quite honestly, I'd question what Cruz did that would create admiration from an Establishment whore.

Drop da mic Solar...

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
Taxed --

Got my coffee and work waiting.   I don't "value" either one, but I believe that, of the two, Hillary would be much more destructive to our country.

So, you value one over the other.  Or am I missing something?  When you choose what radical liberal to support over another radical liberal, what is your process?

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Just the issue of gun rights alone makes a big difference. 

I agree.  Longer wait periods, background checks, banning "assault" weapons... these are issues I would never want in a candidate.  That's why I'd never back Hillary either.   Why do you?

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I hope the choice does not come down to those two, but, if it does, it's an easy choice for me, and neither "staying home" nor third party is an option.

I wish I had your ability to not care about the candidate and just vote based on the letter, then casually say it's an easy choice.  Is there a mental trick or something you go through to make yourself not a conservative?  Do you also take this approach in your daily life, or just at the voting booth?

Quote from: Hoofer on April 26, 2016, 08:36:05 AM
1.  Reading this exchange is akin to listening to Rush Limbaugh.  Like most of his show, it covers, over and over, the Trump strategy, the GOPe's reaction...  that kind of analysis is interesting for about 10 minutes. 

2.  Russ, I'd like to hear your comparison of the candidates on positions, you sound like you've got it well thought out, maybe for the sake of the casual readers here, you could expound a bit?

Hoofer --

1.  Not really; he does not spend that much time on Trump unless there is something newsworthy.  I usually download his show and listen to it while I'm fixing and enjoying my sumptuous dinner.  Absent commercials, the show is just under two hours, so if I'm still interested, I may pipe it out to the deck and finish it up with a glass of wine.  I have a low boredom threshold, so if Rush gets in a rut on some uninteresting topic, I just move the slider forward until the subject changes.  If he spent as much time on Trump as you suggest, I would probably wear out the slider.

2.  Not sure I could add anything that hasn't already been posted here.  I was a Cruz supporter from the outset, and have not found a significant issue on which I disagree with him.  I am a "gun guy," so am particularly attentive to any candidate's position on the 2nd Amendment.  Cruz is solidly there.  I was disappointed that Cruz allowed Trump to bait him into a demeaning exchange.  Cruz should have stuck to the high road and let Trump wallow in it.

Take care,

Russ

p.s.:  I could expound on Trump's positions, but they would likely change before the ink dried on my post.

Taxed --

You probably should not attempt to respond to two separate posts at the same time, because sometimes your responses seem disjointed -- sorta like when an audio track is out of sync with the video.  It also occurs to me that you may just enjoy being provocative, in which case, you may have me confused with somebody who really gives a shit.

1.  re:  "When you choose what radical liberal to support over another radical liberal, what is your process?" -- I flip a coin.

2.  re:  "That's why I'd never back Hillary either.   Why do you?" --  Despite hours and hours of intensive analysis, and days spent by my pond with Henry David, I have not discovered the answer to that question.  When you find the person for whom the question was intended, maybe you will get an answer.

3.  re:  "I wish I had your ability to not care about the candidate" -- You have to work at it.  It takes hours of introspection.

4.  re:  "Is there a mental trick or something you go through to make yourself not a conservative?" --  Gee, I dunno.  Haven't tried that yet.  I'll let you know when I do.  Stay tuned.

Notwithstanding all that, y'all have a nice day, y'hear.

Russ Walden

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 03:14:24 PM
p.s.:  I could expound on Trump's positions, but they would likely change before the ink dried on my post.

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 03:14:24 PM
Hoofer --

1.  Not really; he does not spend that much time on Trump unless there is something newsworthy.  I usually download his show and listen to it while I'm fixing and enjoying my sumptuous dinner.  Absent commercials, the show is just under two hours, so if I'm still interested, I may pipe it out to the deck and finish it up with a glass of wine.  I have a low boredom threshold, so if Rush gets in a rut on some uninteresting topic, I just move the slider forward until the subject changes.  If he spent as much time on Trump as you suggest, I would probably wear out the slider.

2.  Not sure I could add anything that hasn't already been posted here.  I was a Cruz supporter from the outset, and have not found a significant issue on which I disagree with him.  I am a "gun guy," so am particularly attentive to any candidate's position on the 2nd Amendment.  Cruz is solidly there.  I was disappointed that Cruz allowed Trump to bait him into a demeaning exchange.  Cruz should have stuck to the high road and let Trump wallow in it.

Take care,

Russ

p.s.:  I could expound on Trump's positions, but they would likely change before the ink dried on my post.

Wouldn't matter to a Trump supporter, they don't read.

Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2016, 09:05:57 AM

1.   . . . , they're quickly becoming irrelevant and soon to be out of power.

2.  Interesting. If every entrepreneur was forced to wait to prove their worth, we'd still be waiting on electricity.

3.  Not only am I willing to give Cruz a chance, I'm backing him 100% as the enemy of the left including the GOP.

Solar --

1.  I am not as sanguine as you appear to be.  They won't go away that easily.  They are embedded in the woodwork.  They have learned to keep their heads down and wait for a more fortuitous environment.

2.  Not a good comparison.  The entrepreneur who just invented the new Single SideBand WhizBang is not immediately plucked from his basement and made CEO of a megalithic corporation.  He may grow into it, maybe not.  Actual results are mixed.  The American Presidency is the largest CEO position in the world.  It is not a place for OJT.

3.  Yeah, me too, mostly.  I would still prefer to see him partnered with somebody who has been there, done that.

Take care,
Russ

What was this thread titled....?   Dang, I had to check!  Oh, yeah, Ann Coulter is irrevelant.

I'll have to remember that, meh, probably forget about her again.... and Palin, Christie, Carson ...

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 03:36:42 PM
Taxed --

You probably should not attempt to respond to two separate posts at the same time, because sometimes your responses seem disjointed -- sorta like when an audio track is out of sync with the video.

I'm definitely not disjointed... I can barely touch my knees!

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  It also occurs to me that you may just enjoy being provocative, in which case, you may have me confused with somebody who really gives a shit.

My apologies.  I guess asking direct questions about politics on a conservative discussion forum can come across as "provacative".  I'm glad you don't care, so you aren't offended by your own misconception.

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1.  re:  "When you choose what radical liberal to support over another radical liberal, what is your process?" -- I flip a coin.

That's good stuff.

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2.  re:  "That's why I'd never back Hillary either.   Why do you?" --  Despite hours and hours of intensive analysis, and days spent by my pond with Henry David, I have not discovered the answer to that question.  When you find the person for whom the question was intended, maybe you will get an answer.

My apologies again.  I thought you said you would back Trump over Hillary.  Sorry again for trying to understand why.

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3.  re:  "I wish I had your ability to not care about the candidate" -- You have to work at it.  It takes hours of introspection.

Sounds like you really have it down.

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4.  re:  "Is there a mental trick or something you go through to make yourself not a conservative?" --  Gee, I dunno.  Haven't tried that yet.  I'll let you know when I do.  Stay tuned.

Well, it could be natural.  You never know.

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Notwithstanding all that, y'all have a nice day, y'hear.

Russ Walden

You too!  Sorry again about the questions.  If you ever want to talk about it, you let me know.

Quote from: Solid Right on April 26, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Solar --

1.  I am not as sanguine as you appear to be.  They won't go away that easily.  They are embedded in the woodwork.  They have learned to keep their heads down and wait for a more fortuitous environment.

2.  Not a good comparison.  The entrepreneur who just invented the new Single SideBand WhizBang is not immediately plucked from his basement and made CEO of a megalithic corporation.  He may grow into it, maybe not.  Actual results are mixed.  The American Presidency is the largest CEO position in the world.  It is not a place for OJT.

3.  Yeah, me too, mostly.  I would still prefer to see him partnered with somebody who has been there, done that.

Take care,
Russ

Please forgive me for asking a question, but why is executive experience necessary, or a bonus, for being President?  If that's too much, then no worries.