Oh not again...

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 06, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
You know, for someone who claims to have once been a writer, you sure have your struggles with basic literacy.

Alas... After you've made-your-point ... left in a fit of anger, and your posts are buried deep in the archives, you too will be forgotten. 

Is that what YOU really want?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 06, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Oh not again...

Oh, fooey. 

Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2016, 06:54:59 AM
This is not my forum, but I ran a very large BBS system, decades ago - so I really appreciate the guys who moderate here.  It's more than keeping control of the flame throwers, what happens after the damage has been done?   Mods look like censors, active posters feel restricted, feelings are hurt - because some foul loud mouth (who thought he was entertaining) wasn't bounced.

If the system seems restrictive - go start your own, put up your own $$$, and spend hours upon hours fiddling with hardware / software instead of doing what you really though you'd enjoy doing.  Been there, done that, I'd much rather write - I'm far from good, but like everyone else, we can carry on a lively discussion and enlighten each other.  A forum is like a Sports Bar... more watch the game, than participate.  I'm just an average guy, so the pollsters say.

BTW, did you know ... some of the campaigns and news media read this forum?  It incumbent on all of us, to be civil, if we want to be taken seriously.  Trolls are not useful.

That's pretty spot on Hoofer.  One point CC did raise that I forgot to address was about the membership count.  We don't skyrocket members, but slow-grow.  We used to have just 5 on at a time, on average per day.  Then the next year it was 7 or 10.  Then 12.  Then 15.  Then 20.  And that will keep happening.  And we really don't police.  As conservatives, everyone pretty much just gets along, so we don't need rules.  Our only rule is that a lib or whoever coming through needs to prove their positions, since we're not a MSM propaganda distribution medium.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Is that what YOU really want?

You're new. I don't just write any more.

Quote from: taxed on March 06, 2016, 03:12:48 PM
That's pretty spot on Hoofer.  One point CC did raise that I forgot to address was about the membership count.  We don't skyrocket members, but slow-grow.  We used to have just 5 on at a time, on average per day.  Then the next year it was 7 or 10.  Then 12.  Then 15.  Then 20.  And that will keep happening.  And we really don't police.  As conservatives, everyone pretty much just gets along, so we don't need rules.  Our only rule is that a lib or whoever coming through needs to prove their positions, since we're not a MSM propaganda distribution medium.

He made a good point here....

QuoteA forum is like a Sports Bar... more watch the game, than participate. 

This isn't Spartacus, here. We don't have to lug our dead off on their shields.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2016, 06:54:59 AM
This is not my forum, but I ran a very large BBS system, decades ago - so I really appreciate the guys who moderate here.  It's more than keeping control of the flame throwers, what happens after the damage has been done?   Mods look like censors, active posters feel restricted, feelings are hurt - because some foul loud mouth (who thought he was entertaining) wasn't bounced.

If the system seems restrictive - go start your own, put up your own $$$, and spend hours upon hours fiddling with hardware / software instead of doing what you really though you'd enjoy doing.  Been there, done that, I'd much rather write - I'm far from good, but like everyone else, we can carry on a lively discussion and enlighten each other.  A forum is like a Sports Bar... more watch the game, than participate.  I'm just an average guy, so the pollsters say.

BTW, did you know ... some of the campaigns and news media read this forum?  It incumbent on all of us, to be civil, if we want to be taken seriously.  Trolls are not useful.

Sorry I missed this post yesterday due to satellite outages from thunder storms and seriously slow posting connections.
You are exactly Right.
Balance in making this work between heavy handed moderating and keeping an agenda on track is extremely difficult.
Sure, we could open the flood gates and let anyone post anyway they prefer, but there goes messaging from a Conservative POV, including driving away quality posters.
As Taxed pointed out, growing a successful forum like this one takes years, keeping good members while driving out trolls is part art where tact is concerned, one needs to allow them to self ban as in meltdown, as exampled by the lib troll Cooledge.

Your sports bar analogy is spot on, for every player/poster, there is probably more than 100 fans reading their posts, not to mention as you pointed out, the media as well as both party's check in regularly, and people need to be keenly aware of this, because they aren't just talking to a couple of posters, they are influencing thousands as well as setting the narrative, a Conservative narrative.

It's this shared Conservative narrative, a way of life that is totally understood by all Conservatives.
For example when in public, a simple nod or acknowledgement between Conservatives speaks volumes in communication.
It's for this reason we have such a large readership, many wanting to learn and understand the language, while others just read for affirmation of their belief system.

Ya know what's funny? That last paragraph just as well have been written in ancient Sumerian to a lib.

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2016, 03:41:50 PM
Sorry I missed this post yesterday due to satellite outages from thunder storms and seriously slow posting connections.
You are exactly Right.
Balance in making this work between heavy handed moderating and keeping an agenda on track is extremely difficult.
Sure, we could open the flood gates and let anyone post anyway they prefer, but there goes messaging from a Conservative POV, including driving away quality posters.
As Taxed pointed out, growing a successful forum like this one takes years, keeping good members while driving out trolls is part art where tact is concerned, one needs to allow them to self ban as in meltdown, as exampled by the lib troll Cooledge.

Your sports bar analogy is spot on, for every player/poster, there is probably more than 100 fans reading their posts, not to mention as you pointed out, the media as well as both party's check in regularly, and people need to be keenly aware of this, because they aren't just talking to a couple of posters, they are influencing thousands as well as setting the narrative, a Conservative narrative.

It's this shared Conservative narrative, a way of life that is totally understood by all Conservatives.
For example when in public, a simple nod or acknowledgement between Conservatives speaks volumes in communication.
It's for this reason we have such a large readership, many wanting to learn and understand the language, while others just read for affirmation of their belief system.

Ya know what's funny? That last paragraph just as well have been written in ancient Sumerian to a lib.

That's exactly why I always hated the "well, I'll vote for whoever the nominee.  An R is better than a D..." crap.  When GOP sees that, Karl Rove slaps high-fives with John Boehner and say "See, this is a hard core conservative site, and they'll even support whatever Marxist we put in front of them.  They just need an (R) and we have their vote."

Quote from: taxed on March 06, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
That's exactly why I always hated the "well, I'll vote for whoever the nominee.  An R is better than a D..." crap.  When GOP sees that, Karl Rove slaps high-fives with John Boehner and say "See, this is a hard core conservative site, and they'll even support whatever Marxist we put in front of them.  They just need an (R) and we have their vote."

DING DING DING!!!!
Remember how pissed we used to get over that nonsense?
It's what started a months long campaign against voting for RINO' and ensuring an Establishment lock and continuation of the statusquo.
Which is why I say I'm voting Cruz regardless of the shit the Marxists in the GOP pull.
Thank God we won't have to worry since Cruz will win, but we know the GOP'e prefers a NY Lib Trump to a Conservative any day.

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2016, 03:41:50 PM

Sure, we could open the flood gates and let anyone post anyway they prefer, but there goes messaging from a Conservative POV, including driving away quality posters.

Or allowing troll-bashers like me too much leeway to drag the forum into disrepute due to all the infighting.

QuoteAs Taxed pointed out, growing a successful forum like this one takes years, keeping good members while driving out trolls is part art where tact is concerned, one needs to allow them to self ban as in meltdown, as exampled by the lib troll Cooledge.

It's also an art to force their hand. 

QuoteYour sports bar analogy is spot on, for every player/poster, there is probably more than 100 fans reading their posts, not to mention as you pointed out, the media as well as both party's check in regularly, and people need to be keenly aware of this, because they aren't just talking to a couple of posters, they are influencing thousands as well as setting the narrative, a Conservative narrative.

Hoo hah, do I want a piece of THAT action, dare they reveal their dastardly selves! 

QuoteIt's this shared Conservative narrative, a way of life that is totally understood by all Conservatives.

That and the free coffee and doughnuts you're giving out at the tent revivals.

QuoteFor example when in public, a simple nod or acknowledgement between Conservatives speaks volumes in communication.

And the secret handshake where the stray finger tickles your palm. 

QuoteIt's for this reason we have such a large readership, many wanting to learn and understand the language, while others just read for affirmation of their belief system.

Ya know what's funny? That last paragraph just as well have been written in ancient Sumerian to a lib.

Simply look at the facts. Which party has ruled which city since which year, and crime rates began to escalate---beginning with which year? We worry about national internal security not because we want Trump's Nazi-ish lock-up camps. We worry about muggers and robbers and all the usual crooks who got out of hand because America went lax on crime. If we want to stray safe we do not trust Democrats, who would strip us of our guns and hand our lives to the worthless.

I wonder what Vinny thinks of the primaries. He was such a positive guy.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 06, 2016, 04:41:52 PM
I wonder what Vinny thinks of the primaries. He was such a positive guy.

Aren't you getting his newsletter?

Quote from: quiller on March 06, 2016, 03:20:35 PM
He made a good point here....

This isn't Spartacus, here. We don't have to lug our dead off on their shields.

Keep trying to get that visual out of my head... 

Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Keep trying to get that visual out of my head...

Oh, try Clinton versus Trump!

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 06, 2016, 04:41:52 PM
I wonder what Vinny thinks of the primaries. He was such a positive guy.

Ouch!!