Today's Primaries/Caucuses

Started by Fishman, March 05, 2016, 12:50:03 PM

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mrconservative

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Cali Contrarian

Quote from: taxed on March 05, 2016, 06:11:25 PM
Bye loser.

Why do you keep banning people just because they aren't 100% on board with the standard way of thinking around here? "Lib" referred to "Libertarian," not liberal.

Your site, do what you want, but this guy seemed to me hardly offensive. You have maybe 2 dozen core posters, and 90% think in lock step. To me, that gets boring. Better to argue with people who disagree with you than essentially post "ditto" in response to those who do.

Just my 2 cents. I'm sure I'd be long gone with the rest of them except that whatever my disagreeable points might be, I'm a solid Cruz supporter. That shouldn't be the criterion. Troll is one thing, but that guy wasn't a troll. Neither was Coolidge23, even though he couldn't give a straight answer to a question. Neither was Skeptic, even though I thought he was at first.

mrconservative

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
I just ran a check.....Trump has thus far won in just 2 counties where the average income is higher than the (modest) state average. Both of those, Bullitt and Clark Counties, are hardly what you'd call affluent.

The problem is, Trump is winning depressed counties by large margins, while Cruz is squeaking by in more affluent areas. Just the same, I think the final tally will show a result considerably closer than what seems to be indicated now.

Cruz has closed the gap a tad in KY. No big counties reporting yet. Cruz is currently up in counties bordering Cincinnati.
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

taxed

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
Why do you keep banning people just because they aren't 100% on board with the standard way of thinking around here? "Lib" referred to "Libertarian," not liberal.
Eehhh...

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Your site, do what you want, but this guy seemed to me hardly offensive. You have maybe 2 dozen core posters, and 90% think in lock step. To me, that gets boring. Better to argue with people who disagree with you than essentially post "ditto" in response to those who do.
I really don't.  We have a lot of disagreement on this forum actually.  There's a lot of members who would be banned if that were the case.  I just know when they're here to troll.  If he was serious, that's one thing, but I promise he wasn't.  He was really here to troll.

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Just my 2 cents. I'm sure I'd be long gone with the rest of them except that whatever my disagreeable points might be, I'm a solid Cruz supporter. That shouldn't be the criterion. Troll is one thing, but that guy wasn't a troll.
He was...

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Neither was Coolidge23,
He told one member to eff himself, and told Solar to eff him and his mother...  He was a trumper, stuck in 1st gear.

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even though he couldn't give a straight answer to a question. Neither was Skeptic, even though I thought he was at first.
When they turn Trumper and don't have an intellectual post, yet continue to march forward, it's done.  I've been doing this long enough now where I literally can spot a troll within a few posts.  I promise, I hate banning, because just that, we aren't an echo chamber, but you have to continue to be realistic.  He wasn't willing to receive any data and re-process.  That's really why.
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Cali Contrarian

Quote from: mrconservative on March 05, 2016, 06:28:43 PM
Cruz has closed the gap a tad in KY. No big counties reporting yet. Cruz is currently up in counties bordering Cincinnati.

Yeah, won McCracken (Paducah) by 500 votes. It will depend on Fayette and especially Jefferson. Depends how damaged Rubio is, and how much of that goes to Kasich. Cruz's demographic is right in the middle.....the large urban areas represent just the opposite problem of coal country. Too urbanized, too liberal.

taxed

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
I'm sure I'd be long gone with the rest of them except that whatever my disagreeable points might be, I'm a solid Cruz supporter.

And no, dude, you totally bring it.  You are the real deal and run circles around those trolls.
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mrconservative

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 06:33:58 PM
how much of that goes to Kasich.

Cruz is winning in counties bordering Cincy. Kasich nearly 2,000 behind in 1 of those 3 counties. 1 of the counties still hasnt reported anything yet.

Gap is beginning to narrow. Slowly, but surely.
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

Cali Contrarian

Quote from: taxed on March 05, 2016, 06:30:41 PM
Eehhh...
I really don't.  We have a lot of disagreement on this forum actually.  There's a lot of members who would be banned if that were the case.  I just know when they're here to troll.  If he was serious, that's one thing, but I promise he wasn't.  He was really here to troll.
He was...
He told one member to eff himself, and told Solar to eff him and his mother...  He was a trumper, stuck in 1st gear.
When they turn Trumper and don't have an intellectual post, yet continue to march forward, it's done.  I've been doing this long enough now where I literally can spot a troll within a few posts.  I promise, I hate banning, because just that, we aren't an echo chamber, but you have to continue to be realistic.  He wasn't willing to receive any data and re-process.  That's really why.

Yeah, I didn't expect you to say, "You know what Cali, you're totally right." I'm just giving you my perspective, as someone who hasn't been here for as many decades (?) as you have. I understand there is a balance. But as long as I've been here, I have not see the "core" grow in the least, when it should during a very lively primary season.

That's just where I come in along the continuum. When I came here, I was seeking refuge from the constant bombardment of professional or otherwise fully committed leftist trolls. I appreciate that this site offers refuge from that, but it comes at a price. I'd appreciate a little more diversity......even when it comes to considerations that aren't strictly political. Some of us just take a different approach to issues or have a different emphasis about what is important (for instance, rather than just posting links to whatever happens to be on favored right-leaning web sites that day).

Ultimately, I think you can measure success in terms of growth, while still maintaining your primary mission. I still contend that if you're stuck with the same 30 people posting day after day, you could be doing better. Again, just my 2 cents. I don't expect to be agreed with, just heard.

taxed

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 06:45:40 PM
Yeah, I didn't expect you to say, "You know what Cali, you're totally right." I'm just giving you my perspective, as someone who hasn't been here for as many decades (?) as you have. I understand there is a balance. But as long as I've been here, I have not see the "core" grow in the least, when it should during a very lively primary season.

That's just where I come in along the continuum. When I came here, I was seeking refuge from the constant bombardment of professional or otherwise fully committed leftist trolls. I appreciate that this site offers refuge from that, but it comes at a price. I'd appreciate a little more diversity......even when it comes to considerations that aren't strictly political. Some of us just take a different approach to issues or have a different emphasis about what is important (for instance, rather than just posting links to whatever happens to be on favored right-leaning web sites that day).

Ultimately, I think you can measure success in terms of growth, while still maintaining your primary mission. I still contend that if you're stuck with the same 30 people posting day after day, you could be doing better. Again, just my 2 cents. I don't expect to be agreed with, just heard.

I don't disagree.  Maybe I am quicker on the trigger, but my Trumper tolerance is at zero.  I've concluded it's like trying to punch a zombie in the face.  People also come here to read posts from forums that have been overrun by Trumpers.  Ain't gonna happen here.  Trump loses, but Cruz is still going to lose and Trump is inevitable.  We need to slap that BS down instantly, because it does bring conservatives down when they perceive that's the way it is.  Conservatism is alive and well, despite liberal propaganda, and we are immune from the "well, Cruz only won because...." crap.  That doesn't mean disagreement or contradicting data points, but just "well, you really aren't gonna win" doom and gloom or attempt at psychologically dampening us ain't gonna fly here.  It doesn't affect me, because when liberal BS enters my brain, it is instantly torn apart and spit back out.  I've come to understand that not every conservative's logical processing unit is configured like mine, so I do want to keep moral up.
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Cali Contrarian

Quote from: mrconservative on March 05, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
Cruz is winning in counties bordering Cincy. Kasich nearly 2,000 behind in 1 of those 3 counties. 1 of the counties still hasnt reported anything yet.

Gap is beginning to narrow. Slowly, but surely.

Yeah, Daviess County (Owensboro) Cruz +548. Watch for Oldham County ( suburban/exurban Louisville) if it comes in before Jefferson/Fayette. Any significant Cruz margin there could indicate a possibility for a full on comeback and upset. There's a reason they aren't calling this yet......

mrconservative

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 05, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Yeah, Daviess County (Owensboro) Cruz +548. Watch for Oldham County ( suburban/exurban Louisville) if it comes in before Jefferson/Fayette. Any significant Cruz margin there could indicate a possibility for a full on comeback and upset. There's a reason they aren't calling this yet......

I dont know why nothing has came in yet from those bigger counties. It's making me nervous.
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

mrconservative

Fayette County votes in. Cruz up in that county by 5%
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

mrconservative

49% overall in for KY. Still a chunk of east KY not having reported anything at all.
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

taxed

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mrconservative

It's over in KY. Nothing called by Trump won Jefferson County. That pretty much says it all I think.
The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP