The Two Party System

Started by Voldemort, January 03, 2016, 08:49:53 AM

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je_freedom

Quote from: kit saginaw on January 03, 2016, 10:09:23 PM
Any country only needs 2 parties.   

Ideally, there would be NO parties!
All representatives would seek what's best for
the general population, not special interests.

But vested interests formed the Democratic Party
to use the government to extract plunder from everyone else.
So everyone else HAD to form a 2nd party
to defend themselves against the Democrats.

About a parliamentary system,
European countries have proportional representation.
The USA elects representative by geographic districts.
So, in Europe, if a party gets 2 percent of the votes nationwide,
they get 2 percent of the seats in Parliament.

Usually, no one party gets a majority,
so the several parties negotiate with one another
to form coalitions to reach a majority.

In America, that negotiating between various factions
happens BEFORE the election (in a much more informal manner).
It's most apparent in the Democratic Party,
which is made up of a bunch of special interests
joined together to vote for one another's handouts.

People who want what's good for people's interests as Americans
are forced to gather in the Republican Party,
and still have to compete within the Party against
1) special interests opposite those represented in the D Party, and
2) special interests aligned with those represented in the D Party,
who are paid off by lobbyists to not oppose the Dems!
Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

Shooterman

Quote from: je_freedom on January 05, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
Ideally, there would be NO parties!
All representatives would seek what's best for
the general population, not special interests.

True, but only if the people were a virtuous people, which they are not.

QuoteBut vested interests formed the Democratic Party to use the government to extract plunder from everyone else.

HORSE SHIT! Simply not true.

QuoteSo everyone else HAD to form a 2nd party to defend themselves against the Democrats.

Again, simply not true. Is that how the Federalists, Whigs, and PUBS came to be? How about the Free Soil Party? Hint; that did not mean everyone got free land.

There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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quiller

Quote from: Shooterman on January 05, 2016, 06:30:54 AM
C'mon, Quill, you're a better student of history than that. The POS Lincoln was also a shooting victim.

Just funnin' ya. I did forget about Lincoln. Can't really understand why, I just did.

kalash


quiller

Quote from: kalash on January 06, 2016, 03:20:28 AM
"Me too! Me too!"


That bill is not in circulation. The $5 (Lincoln) and $10 (Hamilton) are.

kit saginaw

Quote from: kalash on January 06, 2016, 03:20:28 AM
"Me too! Me too!"


Don't tell obama that McKinley's portrait is on it.

SalemCat

SIMPLE FIX:

No more Party Affiliations on any BALLOT.

walkstall

Quote from: SalemCat on January 07, 2016, 07:40:58 PM
SIMPLE FIX:

No more Party Affiliations on any BALLOT.


RIGHT!!   :rolleyes:
Look how well that is working out for our judges.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

SalemCat

Quote from: walkstall on January 07, 2016, 07:44:20 PM

RIGHT!!   :rolleyes:
Look how well that is working out for our judges.

Please explain.

Because I'm pretty sure that if there was no "D" beside the name, most Democrats would be completely baffled as to who to vote for.

walkstall

Quote from: SalemCat on January 07, 2016, 07:57:09 PM
Please explain.

Because I'm pretty sure that if there was no "D" beside the name, most Democrats would be completely baffled as to who to vote for.

Sorry it when over you head.  Judges say there nonpartisan.  BS!
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

je_freedom

Quote from: walkstall on January 07, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
Sorry it when over you head.  Judges say there nonpartisan.  BS!

The Party sends out postcards
with the names of the "nonpartisan" candidates they endorse.
Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

quiller

Quote from: walkstall on January 07, 2016, 07:44:20 PM

RIGHT!!   :rolleyes:
Look how well that is working out for our judges.

This kid's becoming a laughingstock at express-train speeds. Our U.S. Supremely Ignorants (or the criminally incompetent 9th Circus) are the textbook example of nonpartisan nonsense.

quiller

Quote from: je_freedom on January 07, 2016, 08:15:56 PM
The Party sends out postcards
with the names of the "nonpartisan" candidates they endorse.

Unions hand out candidates' cards with all their endorsed candidates listed. Even illiterate shop rats can match names to get their stooge-of-choice onto a ballot.

walkstall

Quote from: quiller on January 07, 2016, 08:31:39 PM
This kid's becoming a laughingstock at express-train speeds. Our U.S. Supremely Ignorants (or the criminally incompetent 9th Circus) are the textbook example of nonpartisan nonsense.


And I was trying to forget them democrats as they don't have "D" in back of there name.   :rolleyes:   :lol:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

quiller

Quote from: walkstall on January 07, 2016, 08:37:29 PM

And I was trying to forget them democrats as they don't have "D" in back of there name.   :rolleyes:   :lol:

That's like the Democrats trying to replace their jackass symbol, with a circled capital D.