Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:42:31 PM
I'm so glad it's election time.  They come out of the woodworks...

Why would kids come to a Conservative forum expecting to find noetically challenged individuals like themselves?
I mean really. Being liberal takes no thought whatsoever beyond emotion, Conservative on the other hand requires critical thinking and an understanding of the world around you.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:53:24 PM
TFC, when rich people are taxed less and allowed to keep more of their money, do they save it or spend it?

For the 4th or 5th time (since you ignored me when I answered previously), they save it.

Want to stimulate the economy? Cut taxes on corporations. They are the "job creators". Not individuals.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:56:11 PM
Why would kids come to a Conservative forum expecting to find noetically challenged individuals like themselves?
I mean really. Being liberal takes no thought whatsoever beyond emotion, Conservative on the other hand requires critical thinking and an understanding of the world around you.

Only I'm not a liberal. That's why I have criticized Obama in this thread. It is also why I've called for lower corporate taxes.

You are just proving that you are what you accused me of: an idiot.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:51:34 PM
When rich people get tax cuts they save that money. They don't go out spending out like you do every time you get a $.25/hour raise. That's how they became rich in the first place - by saving their money, not by spending it.

I know this is a tough concept for you to understand.

Do they hurt poor people by saving that money?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:52:34 PM
The term is "woodwork" dummy, not "woodworks".     

You got me on a typo.  Yay.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:58:37 PM
Do they hurt poor people by saving that money?

I've answered this question at least twice previously. I'm not going to answer it again.

Plus, rich people hurting poor people by saving more money was never part of my argument.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
For the 4th or 5th time (since you ignored me when I answered previously), they save it.

Want to stimulate the economy? Cut taxes on corporations. They are the "job creators". Not individuals.

Do these lower corporate taxes benefit shareholders?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
I've answered this question at least twice previously. I'm not going to answer it again.

Plus, rich people hurting poor people by saving more money was never part of my argument.

So, yes or no?  Are they hurt by rich people saving?

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 03:01:38 PM
So, yes or no?  Are they hurt by rich people saving?

We still have a huge deficit. The country as a whole is hurt by the deficit. Let's eliminate the deficit, build a surplus to start paying off the debt, then talk about tax cuts for individuals. Every dollar in tax cuts is a dollar that could be used to reduce the deficit. It's basic fiscal prudency.

Corporate taxes are different. They are so high that companies are leaving for other countries with lower corporate taxes. Individuals, for the most part, are not.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:55:10 PM
It doesn't matter who invented the term. You can call it "trickle down economics". You can call it "supply side economics", it's the same thing.

Tax cuts to the rich do not work you fucking retard.

If you want to stimulate the economy, cut taxes to corporations. The United States has among the highest corporate taxes in the world. That will work. Cutting taxes to wealthy individuals only benefits wealthy individuals. They save the money and pass it on to their heirs.

Oh Jeeez, where to start?
Corporations can be a global entity, hiring 10s of thousands overseas, which would have little to no effect on our economy.
But an "Across The Board Tax Cut" effects everyone. Got that? Everyone!
Look at you energy bill, health care, food, etc. These are all a result of the opposite of supply side (meaning socialist Keynes theory).

Before the Marxist entered the WH, we used to lower the interest rate, that too spawned borrowing and growth, but what the Marxist is doing to the economy is the antithesis of supply side econ, which is why we're in the worst depression in US history.

Can you not see that? It is literally the opposite of supply side, so to say supply side doesn't work? Well, you know my response.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:04:46 PM
We still have a huge deficit. The country as a whole is hurt by the deficit. Let's eliminate the deficit, build a surplus to start paying off the debt, then talk about tax cuts for individuals. Every dollar in tax cuts is a dollar that could be used to reduce the deficit. It's basic fiscal prudency.

Corporate taxes are different. They are so high that companies are leaving for other countries with lower corporate taxes. Individuals, for the most part, are not.

Yes or no: are poor people hurt by rich people saving money?

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
Oh Jeeez, where to start?
Corporations can be a global entity, hiring 10s of thousands overseas, which would have little to no effect on our economy.
But an "Across The Board Tax Cut" effects everyone. Got that? Everyone!
Look at you energy bill, health care, food, etc. These are all a result of the opposite of supply side (meaning socialist Keynes theory).

Before the Marxist entered the WH, we used to lower the interest rate, that too spawned borrowing and growth, but what the Marxist is doing to the economy is the antithesis of supply side econ, which is why we're in the worst depression in US history.

Can you not see that? It is literally the opposite of supply side, so to say supply side doesn't work? Well, you know my response.

So you advocate tax cuts on individuals when we still have a massive deficit and a massive debt? That's brilliant.

If you owe 10s of 1000s of dollars on a loan your first priority should be to pay the loan off. THEN you can go spending money on other things.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
For the 4th or 5th time (since you ignored me when I answered previously), they save it.

Want to stimulate the economy? Cut taxes on corporations. They are the "job creators". Not individuals.

Wrong son..... They invest it! Shock, the horror, they want to make more money, so they invest in industries with growth potential.
Oh man, this is like argiung with a kid and trying to explain why he won't get an allowance.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
Yes or no: are poor people hurt by rich people saving money?

All people, including poor people, are hurt by a huge deficit. When you cut taxes on the rich, you are adding to the deficit because you have to borrow more to cover expenses.

Once we've eliminated the deficit and started paying off the debt, the argument changes.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 03:10:39 PM
All people, including poor people, are hurt by a huge deficit. When you cut taxes on the rich, you are adding to the deficit because you have to borrow more to cover expenses.

Once we've eliminated the deficit and started paying off the debt, the argument changes.

Yes or no: are poor people hurt by rich people saving money?