Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
Another strawman argument. You continue to attribute things to me I didn't say.

It was a question I asked you.  You say poor people benefit from rich people spending money.  You then say they don't benefit from rich people keeping more money.  So, why is it a strawman for me to ask if rich people don't spend money if they are allowed to keep it?

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You equate me saying that rich people spending more money means that tax cuts for the rich therefore must be beneficial to the economy. These two are not equivalent. If you cannot see that, there is no help for you.

I'm asking you.  You said they benefit from spending, but not from saving.  You said they don't benefit from rich people keeping more money.  Therefore, do rich people not spend when allowed to keep more?  Or, if they keep more, are they just saving it?  I'm not building a straw man by simply asking you to clarify.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
You've argued that trickle down works. So if it doesn't exist and you're arguing about it, you're a fucking idiot.


Wow. This just shows the ignorance of idiots like you.

And yes, you resorted to the personal attacks first. You called me an idiot (amongst other petty insults) prior to me insulting you. This proves that you know your arguments cannot stand on their own merits. So you feel the need to personally insult the other person.

You are pathetic.

No dumb ass, I was going with your nomenclature, knowing full well you had no clue what you were talking about.
And the use of the term idiot was not meant as an insult, rather a true descriptor of the poster.

IDIOT: A person of subnormal intelligence

So you see, I was simply pointing out the obvious. I hope you soon realize you're way in over your head and seriously out of your league here.
Many of us on this forum are retired business owners and former CEO's with decades on the subject of finance, it's why we were successful and still are.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
It's pathetic that you have to resort to personal insults like calling someone you are debating an "idiot". It's just a sign that you know you are losing. If you thought you were winning the debate, you'd talk is a civil manner without resorting to petty insults.

I actually kind of pity you. You and your lack of intellect.

So you couldn't respond to the facts so you detour with some lame nonsense about how you pity the guy who just handed you you ass?
I gave you the facts, that your Trickle down BS is just that, Leftist BS talking points.
Now prove me wrong Genius!
Oh, and just so you know, the term Geniuse here? That was pure sarcasm, you person of lower, or subnormal intellect.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Remember when I said I'd use your own words against you?

This kid is waaaayyyy in olver his head.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:39:55 PM
So you couldn't respond to the facts so you detour with some lame nonsense about how you pity the guy who just handed you you ass?
I gave you the facts, that your Trickle down BS is just that, Leftist BS talking points.
Now prove me wrong Genius!
Oh, and just so you know, the term Geniuse here? That was pure sarcasm, you person of lower, or subnormal intellect.

He's trying to think of a way out of his spending/saving conundrum....

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:41:20 PM

This kid is waaaayyyy in olver his head.

I'm so glad it's election time.  They come out of the woodworks...

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:35:11 PM
No dumb ass, I was going with your nomenclature, knowing full well you had no clue what you were talking about.
And the use of the term idiot was not meant as an insult, rather a true descriptor of the poster.

IDIOT: A person of subnormal intelligence

The term "idiot" is an insult, whether you meant it that way or not. And the fact that you have to resort to insults rather than treating your opponent in a debate with respect shows that you lack the intelligence to engage in a civilized debate without resorting to attacks or demeaning terms. IOW, is shows that you're the idiot, not me.

QuoteMany of us on this forum are retired business owners and former CEO's with decades on the subject of finance, it's why we were successful and still are.

It's too bad you cannot engage in civilized debate without personal attacks. Loser.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:46:13 PM
The term "idiot" is an insult, whether you meant it that way or not. And the fact that you have to resort to insults rather than treating your opponent in a debate with respect shows that you lack the intelligence to engage in a civilized debate without resorting to attacks or demeaning terms. IOW, is shows that you're the idiot, not me.



It's too bad you cannot engage in civilized debate without personal attacks. Loser.

I'm still waiting.....

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
He's trying to think of a way out of his spending/saving conundrum....

Now he has to back to class and have his Prof give him new debate tips.
"Sir, I got my ass kicked, they didn't fall for your trickle down claims, they proved the term was invented by our party."
Prof: Really? I didn't know that. Did you play the race card, or how they hate women?

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:39:55 PM
So you couldn't respond to the facts so you detour with some lame nonsense about how you pity the guy who just handed you you ass?

No dummy. YOU started the personal insults, not me. Read the thread in sequence from the beginning. Find the first post where you insulted me, and the first post where I insulted you. You'll see that you insulted me first. I simply responded.

Had you not insulted me, I would not have responded in kind. Don't play the victim game and pretend that I started this.

I said that I pitied you because you made personal comments about me unprovoked. I had not called you an idiot or used any other insult until AFTER you did so to me.

QuoteOh, and just so you know, the term Geniuse here? That was pure sarcasm, you person of lower, or subnormal intellect.

Learn to spell retard. The term is "genius", not "geniuse".

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:46:13 PM
The term "idiot" is an insult, whether you meant it that way or not. And the fact that you have to resort to insults rather than treating your opponent in a debate with respect shows that you lack the intelligence to engage in a civilized debate without resorting to attacks or demeaning terms. IOW, is shows that you're the idiot, not me.



It's too bad you cannot engage in civilized debate without personal attacks. Loser.

Stop obfuscating and debate my points, that is, assuming you have the intellectual capacity to do so.
See, I didn't call you an Idiot.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
He's trying to think of a way out of his spending/saving conundrum....

When rich people get tax cuts they save that money. They don't go out spending out like you do every time you get a $.25/hour raise. That's how they became rich in the first place - by saving their money, not by spending it.

I know this is a tough concept for you to understand.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:42:31 PM
I'm so glad it's election time.  They come out of the woodworks...

The term is "woodwork" dummy, not "woodworks".     

TFC, when rich people are taxed less and allowed to keep more of their money, do they save it or spend it?

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
Now he has to back to class and have his Prof give him new debate tips.
"Sir, I got my ass kicked, they didn't fall for your trickle down claims, they proved the term was invented by our party."
Prof: Really? I didn't know that. Did you play the race card, or how they hate women?

It doesn't matter who invented the term. You can call it "trickle down economics". You can call it "supply side economics", it's the same thing.

Tax cuts to the rich do not work you fucking retard.

If you want to stimulate the economy, cut taxes to corporations. The United States has among the highest corporate taxes in the world. That will work. Cutting taxes to wealthy individuals only benefits wealthy individuals. They save the money and pass it on to their heirs.