Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:54:56 PM
I never said he didn't, so sorry, I have to strangle that straw man in its crib.

Yes you did dummy.

I said:

QuoteObama didn't change that. In fact, he extended the Bush tax cuts.

And you responded with

QuoteWrong.

You explicitly said that I was wrong when I claimed that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Anyone can read through the posts in order to see what I said, and what you said in response.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:59:49 PM
Yes you did dummy.

I said:

And you responded with


You explicitly said that I was wrong when I claimed that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Anyone can read through the posts in order to see what I said, and what you said in response.

Go back and read.  You said the economy is bad because of trickle down economics.  That's what you're wrong about.  I never said Hussein didn't extend Bush tax cuts.  You're on a forum where people know these things.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:57:45 PM
I have, but you just don't understand the topic to know that I did.
So, poor people DO or DO NOT benefit from rich people spending money?

Of course poor people benefit from rich people spending money. That is not what trickle down economics claims dummy. Trickle down economics claims that tax cuts or other economic policies benefiting the rich also benefit the non-rich.

Those two things are not the same. Cutting taxes on the rich does not mean they will spend more money. It just means they will be able to save more.

Christ you're stupid.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:02:13 PM
Go back and read.  You said the economy is bad because of trickle down economics.

I also said that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. You quoted that as well (as me saying the economy is bad because of trickle down economics), and replied "Wrong".

When you quote somebody and reply "Wrong", you are saying that everything they said inside those quotes is wrong, not just some of it. If I wasn't wrong about Obama extending the Bush tax cuts, you should have left that out of the quote.

You cannot really be as dumb as you're letting on. Please tell me that you're just portraying a character here.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:02:58 PM
Of course poor people benefit from rich people spending money.

If they benefit from rich people, then how can they be hurt when the rich people have more money?

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That is not what trickle down economics claims dummy. Trickle down economics claims that tax cuts or other economic policies benefiting the rich also benefit the non-rich.

Cutting taxes on the rich helps poor people.  I have no idea what "other" means.  How about you 'splain it to me?

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Those two things are not the same. Cutting taxes on the rich does not mean they will spend more money. It just means they will be able to save more.

Saving money hurts the economy and poor people?  Please clarify so I have you on record clearly.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
I also said that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. You quoted that as well (as me saying the economy is bad because of trickle down economics), and replied "Wrong".

When you quote somebody and reply "Wrong", you are saying that everything they said inside those quotes is wrong, not just some of it. If I wasn't wrong about Obama extending the Bush tax cuts, you should have left that out of the quote.

You cannot really be as dumb as you're letting on. Please tell me that you're just portraying a character here.

You're right, I wasn't clear. 

See how easy that was?  You saw something, used that software developer brain and applied thinking, and look!  You were able to articulate.  I think we made a breakthrough.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
If they benefit from rich people, then how can they be hurt when the rich people have more money?

No. I didn't say they were hurt by rich people having more money. This is another of your strawman arguments. What I said is that rich people having more money doesn't help them. Even if it doesn't hurt them, that doesn't mean that it helps them either.

You have continually attributed comments and arguments to me that I never made. This seems to be your debate strategy.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:09:01 PM
You're right, I wasn't clear.

No, you were clear in your own mind. It was not until I pointed out your stupidity that you realized that you were wrong.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
No. I didn't say they were hurt by rich people having more money. This is another of your strawman arguments. What I said is that rich people having more money doesn't help them. Even if it doesn't hurt them, that doesn't mean that it helps them either.

You have continually attributed comments and arguments to me that I never made. This seems to be your debate strategy.

Remember when I said I'd use your own words against you?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:02:58 PM
Of course poor people benefit from rich people spending money. That is not what trickle down economics claims dummy. Trickle down economics claims that tax cuts or other economic policies benefiting the rich also benefit the non-rich.

Those two things are not the same. Cutting taxes on the rich does not mean they will spend more money. It just means they will be able to save more.

Christ you're stupid.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Remember when I said I'd use your own words against you?

Poor people benefiting from rich people spending money is not the same as poor people benefiting from rich people getting tax cuts. Keeping more money does not mean spending more money.

Though I'm not surprised you can't differentiate. You probably spend every penny you earn on useless shit. You strike me as that type.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
And you've done nothing to prove that you know what you're talking about. You are unable to cite a single number proving that trickle down economics has worked in practice rather than in theory. You're entire argument is that you know what you're talking about, but you haven't shown any proof that this is the case.

First off, there is no such animal as trickle down, that was a catch phrase designed for idiots like you that needed simple aphorisms to sound like they knew what they were talking about, and you have taken the bait.
In truth, Reganomics was supply side economics, a system designed at the turn of the 20 century as a means of heading off recession.
Simply cut taxes, decrease interest rates, and boom, the economy recovers.

What you see today is nowhere near what Reagan used.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 02:16:16 PM

Poor people benefiting from rich people spending money is not the same as poor people benefiting from rich people getting tax cuts. Keeping more money does not mean spending more money.

Are you saying rich people don't spend money when they are allowed to keep more of it?

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:18:10 PM
First off, there is no such animal as trickle down

You've argued that trickle down works. So if it doesn't exist and you're arguing about it, you're a fucking idiot.

QuoteSimply cut taxes, decrease interest rates, and boom, the economy recovers.

What you see today is nowhere near what Reagan used.

Wow. This just shows the ignorance of idiots like you.

And yes, you resorted to the personal attacks first. You called me an idiot (amongst other petty insults) prior to me insulting you. This proves that you know your arguments cannot stand on their own merits. So you feel the need to personally insult the other person.

You are pathetic.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 02:25:49 PM
Are you saying rich people don't spend money when they are allowed to keep more of it?

Another strawman argument. You continue to attribute things to me I didn't say.

You equate me saying that rich people spending more money means that tax cuts for the rich therefore must be beneficial to the economy. These two are not equivalent. If you cannot see that, there is no help for you.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 02:18:10 PM
First off, there is no such animal as trickle down, that was a catch phrase designed for idiots like you

It's pathetic that you have to resort to personal insults like calling someone you are debating an "idiot". It's just a sign that you know you are losing. If you thought you were winning the debate, you'd talk is a civil manner without resorting to petty insults.

I actually kind of pity you. You and your lack of intellect.