Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:28:45 PM


I'd love to know what he does, but you know he won't say.

Now I know why my tacos are cold.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
OK, forget about links. Post some verifiable economic numbers proving that trickle down economics has worked - that policies benefiting the wealthy have also benefited the poor and/or the middle class.

I just need to use your own words against you.

How many people have benefited from you economically?

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Because to be honest, your refusal to provide any backups to what you are saying are making you look like an idiot. You talk about exposing my idiocy, but you have yet to provide any proof that you aren't an idiot yourself. You're like a fucking parrot, repeating the same stupid shtick over and over.

I have experience and you don't.  It's that simple.

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If you want to be taken seriously and prove that you know what you're talking about, yes, you do need to post links. You don't "know the subject" just because you say you do. Prove that the IMF study is wrong. If you can't do that, than the study is right.

I don't need to.  I can use what you say against you.  I have the experience and knowledge.  You don't.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 01:39:56 PM
Now lets look at your version under the Marxist. How is the economy doing?
Well for starters, we're in the worst and longest depression in US history. The obverse evidence proves you know absolutely nothing about economics!

The economy is doing terribly because we've been practicing "trickle down economics" for nearly 40 years. Obama didn't change that. In fact, he extended the Bush tax cuts. Obama has done nothing to move the country away from "trickle down economics". Obama is nothing but empty rhetoric on the matter.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 01:41:04 PM
Now I know why my tacos are cold.

No moron. I already told you that I'm a software developer.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:43:29 PM
The economy is doing terribly because we've been practicing "trickle down economics" for nearly 40 years. Obama didn't change that. In fact, he extended the Bush tax cuts. Obama has done nothing to move the country away from "trickle down economics". Obama is nothing but empty rhetoric on the matter.

Wrong.

You're really bad at this.  May I ask, when did you turn voting age?

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
I have experience and you don't.  It's that simple.

You don't know anything about me. So don't pretend to. I don't pretend to know anything about you. If you claim to know anything about me, you're exposing yourself as a liar and an idiot.

Stick to the topic and disprove the IMF study. Saying "their a marxist organization" is attacking the messenger. It does nothing to disprove the study.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:43:29 PM
The economy is doing terribly because we've been practicing "trickle down economics" for nearly 40 years. Obama didn't change that. In fact, he extended the Bush tax cuts. Obama has done nothing to move the country away from "trickle down economics". Obama is nothing but empty rhetoric on the matter.

Are you serious? The RINO'e killed the concept with tax increases after Reagan left office, there hasn't been a shadow of a ghost of the concept since.
I gave you solid evidence from history, and this is all you have to refute the truth?
You're a lost cause.

So tell me, how many poor people do you know that are hiring?

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:46:12 PM
You don't know anything about me. So don't pretend to. I don't pretend to know anything about you. If you claim to know anything about me, you're exposing yourself as a liar and an idiot.

Stick to the topic and disprove the IMF study. Saying "their a marxist organization" is attacking the messenger. It does nothing to disprove the study.

You post links to Marxist sources and parrot Marxist propaganda.  I know your "positions" better than you do!

Keep dodging my questions though.  I must say, I am impressed you were able to answer one.  That's way more than others with your same perspective can answer, so big kudos!

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
Wrong.

You're really bad at this.  May I ask, when did you turn voting age?

Obama DID extend the Bush tax cuts moron. That's not opinion, that's fact:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606200.html

QuoteObama signs bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts for two more years

QuotePresident Obama signed into law the most significant tax bill in nearly a decade Friday, a day after overcoming liberal resistance in Congress to continue for two more years tax breaks enacted under president George W. Bush and to provide a fresh federal boost for the tepid economic recovery.

You're going to sit there and say that Obama did not extend the Bush tax cuts in 2010 when I can refute that with proof in less than 60 seconds? Wow. Get back on the short bus.


Obama has done NOTHING to end trickle down economics. He is practicing the same stupid economic policies that date back to Reagan.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
No moron. I already told you that I'm a software developer.

Aww, so you're a young millenial. That explains soooo muuch. You have absolutely no historical reference.

Quote from: taxed on September 29, 2015, 01:48:40 PM
You post links to Marxist sources and parrot Marxist propaganda.  I know your "positions" better than you do!

Keep dodging my questions though.  I must say, I am impressed you were able to answer one.  That's way more than others with your same perspective can answer, so big kudos!

You haven't asked any questions related to trickle down economics. So there are no questions to answer.

You've repeated over and over that rich people and corporations spend money. Which I never refuted. What I refuted is the disproven notion that tax cuts and other economic benefits for the rich benefit the country as a whole. If they did benefit the country as a whole, it would not be the case that all income gains in recent years have gone to the top 10% of the richest Americans.

With regard to the IMF study, you're doing the same as Solar. Instead of disproving the study with numbers and/or another study, you're proof that it's wrong is calling the organization "Marxist". No. The organizations motives do not mean that the facts from the study are wrong. The onus is on you to disprove it.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:49:50 PM

Obama DID extend the Bush tax cuts moron. That's not opinion, that's fact:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606200.html

I never said he didn't, so sorry, I have to strangle that straw man in its crib.

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You're going to sit there and say that Obama did not extend the Bush tax cuts in 2010 when I can refute that with proof in less than 60 seconds? Wow. Get back on the short bus.

No.  Straw men aside, you're wrong about the economy bad because of the free market and supply and demand.

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Obama has done NOTHING to end trickle down economics. He is practicing the same stupid economic policies that date back to Reagan.

No he isn't.  Hussein is nothing like Reagan.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
Aww, so you're a young millenial. That explains soooo muuch. You have absolutely no historical reference.

That explains why my phone freezes up...

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
Aww, so you're a young millenial. That explains soooo muuch. You have absolutely no historical reference.

And you've done nothing to prove that you know what you're talking about. You are unable to cite a single number proving that trickle down economics has worked in practice rather than in theory. You're entire argument is that you know what you're talking about, but you haven't shown any proof that this is the case.

Quote from: The Fiscal Conservative on September 29, 2015, 01:54:48 PM

You haven't asked any questions related to trickle down economics. So there are no questions to answer.

I have, but you just don't understand the topic to know that I did.

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You've repeated over and over that rich people and corporations spend money. Which I never refuted. What I refuted is the disproven notion that tax cuts and other economic benefits for the rich benefit the country as a whole.

So, poor people DO or DO NOT benefit from rich people spending money?