Quote from: Dori on August 17, 2015, 05:27:42 PM
I wonder how many Mexican laborers are employed in CA agriculture.  There is a Farm Workers Union, do they find the workers?  Get them documented?

Most are legal as to having Green cards.

Quote from: Dori on August 17, 2015, 05:27:42 PM
I wonder how many Mexican laborers are employed in CA agriculture.  There is a Farm Workers Union, do they find the workers?  Get them documented?

Ceasar Chavez started that mess, they protect them as well....highly organized labor with big time kick backs to the labor organizers and Union gangsters...Chavez got rich on that.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 17, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
While I agree with starting with the criminal element and a joint effort between Feds and locals, I beeive we could have a lot of them self deport if we initiated the following:

Being that all those who entered or remained illegally at expiration of a visa are technically committing a crime all proceeds of said crime, remaining in the USA Illegally, could be subject to seizure by Fed/Local govt. Proceeds could be bank accounts, real property and especially vehicles/boats etc. So I would issue the following ultimatum. Anyone illegally in the USA has a 90 day grace period to liquidate their assets and self deport. If after 90 days anyone in the US Illegally remaining would have ALL ASSETS SEIZED AS ProCeeds oF a cRIME.

That would starta rush for the exits.

Furthermore, anyone found to bring a minor illegally into the USA would be subject to a criminal penalty of a 25K fine and/or ten years in a Federal Prison.

That would stop the flow of trafficked children

Though I love the idea, it won't happen simply because in some states it would create a housing crisis, a glut of homes suddenly hitting the mkt.
I think it was Levin that  discussed the idea and said the pressure from banks and lending institutions have a lot of clout and would never let it happen.

Personally, I say do it, let the chips fall where they may, let Wall St take a hit for a change, they've been sticking it to us for years, taking our tax dollars and never one single thank you, just another hand out asking for more.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 17, 2015, 05:39:36 PM

Ceasar Chavez started that mess, they protect them as well....highly organized labor with big time kick backs to the labor organizers and Union gangsters...Chavez got rich on that.

We have a lot of agriculture in CA, as well as in other states.   I don't think I've  seen crop pickers that weren't from south of the border. 

Quote from: walkstall on August 17, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
It has been two decades that I know of.   I think it could be done in 5 years, with out adding more law enforcement.  Just us what we have and follow the laws.  Give them all 2 weeks to go home then remove all subsidies at the end of the two week.  They can get to the back of the line if they wish to come in the right way.  Like all other legal aliens have after the law was passed.

I agree Walks.  When the bleeding heart liberals tie the hands of law enforcement, nothing can get done.  Illegal to the libs is just another word for sick birds..The big handout we are giving these people needs to stop and if it gets stopped, they'll go home.

Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2015, 05:44:25 PM
Though I love the idea, it won't happen simply because in some states it would create a housing crisis, a glut of homes suddenly hitting the mkt.
I think it was Levin that  discussed the idea and said the pressure from banks and lending institutions have a lot of clout and would never let it happen.

Personally, I say do it, let the chips fall where they may, let Wall St take a hit for a change, they've been sticking it to us for years, taking our tax dollars and never one single thank you, just another hand out asking for more.

Yeah and think how that would benefit the banks, the real estate market and all the folks who thrive off of "foreclosures"  (Like Me.... )

Something else...you know how much money these people send OUT of the USA every day? My Son in Law manages a Big Food Lion that has a western Union. He says every Friday dozens of them crowd the WU booth sending thousands of dollars to LAtin American countries. That is one of their weak points, sending money "back home" easy way to trace the senders or trace the assets....or SHut down western Union cripple their asset allocation by demanding proof of legal residence.

Quote from: Dori on August 17, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
We have a lot of agriculture in CA, as well as in other states.   I don't think I've  seen crop pickers that weren't from south of the border.

They will be when we DEMAND the GOVERNMENT stop subsidizing able bodied adults.

Take a drive past the parks of our larger cities during the he day. Mostly adult blacks who prefer the dignity of sponging off the taxpayer rather than take the ONLY jobs they're qualified to do due to the poor decisions theyve made during their school years.

It's time able bodied Americans go back k to work -- or they don't eat!

Quote from: carlb on August 18, 2015, 04:52:20 AM
They will be when we DEMAND the GOVERNMENT stop subsidizing able bodied adults.

Take a drive past the parks of our larger cities during the he day. Mostly adult blacks who prefer the dignity of sponging off the taxpayer rather than take the ONLY jobs they're qualified to do due to the poor decisions theyve made during their school years.

It's time able bodied Americans go back k to work -- or they don't eat!

I will repeat my theory that if an able bodied person is on welfare they owe the payer 40 hours a week. Local governments can use them for all kinds of labor. By doing that we would have lot fewer people accepting welfare.

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 18, 2015, 06:18:13 AM
I will repeat my theory that if an able bodied person is on welfare they owe the payer 40 hours a week. Local governments can use them for all kinds of labor. By doing that we would have lot fewer people accepting welfare.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We actually had something along those lines then Obamao axed it of course.....

I love the question I heard one of them asking Trump last night. "But what about the visuals of all those people being deported" Trump didn't answer it, but he should have, telling them what about the visuals of America enforcing her own borders and her own laws.