Quote from: mdgiles on June 13, 2015, 01:02:14 PM
SO THE FUCK DID I!!!! Were you a criminal? Were ALL of the people who lived in those areas criminals.
You people sound insane. You say it's wrong to accuse any cop of bad behavior because the majority of police are good men and women; and then you turn around in the very next breath and say it's just fine to treat all minorities in the Inner Cities as criminals because a minority are. A majority of good cops makes all cops innocent; but a minority of city residents makes them all guilty. And you don't even recognize the problem with that "logic".

I think you buy into this "bad cops are the majority" crap.  It isn't the case.

Look, you can have two neighborhoods of equal size in the same city or town.
You can ask the residents of each neighborhood how the police are, and get two completely different sets of answers. How is that possible? Same police department, two completely different answers. That's set up for the perfect scientific method.

Further, you can break down the answers by age, income, other factors, in each neighborhood and look for correlations between  the answers and the factors.
I'm sure this has been done over and over.
You could also turn it around and ask how are the police treated in the various areas when they respond to the same kind of call, be it a traffic stop or a domestic. What is wrong is  to take sides and immediately either pre-judge or jump to a conclusion.

Now, Sheriff Clark, he analyzed the situation completely differently. He is not a bleeding heart and he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.  Maybe the answer is to replace Loretta with Sheriff Clark.  Unless, of course, things are working out just like Barack wants them to.

The whole thing is a pretty problem. On the one hand we have the humanist progressives, who daily shit on their own civil rights heroes by paying more attention to skin color than any other factor when discussing ANY of our social problems and issues. We have the executive branch of the federal government deliberately fanning the flames of racism under the age-old divide-and-conquer principal of establishing their absolute despotism. We have large populations of people of minority races buying into the humanist progressive mantra because it is far, far easier to sit around whining about how unfair it all is that to get up and do something about their situation.

Then we have the institution of law enforcement, the large majority of whom are upstanding people who are willingly and knowingly putting their butts on the line because they believe in doing their part to create a better society. But the job, due to a large number of factors, most of which come from the blind, drug induced fantasies of humanist progressives and their desire for utopian society, is becoming more and more difficult. They see thugs being let out on the street before the arresting officer can even complete the paperwork on the arrest. They see their work being demonized. And, to be fair, they also see their reputations being tarnished by a minority of individuals who do see their badge and uniforms as license to f*ck with people.

Add in other factors of government, whose central intent is to use any and all means to secure more and more power, which lead to new policies to include items such as no-knock raids which in turn lead to police killing innocents because of some screw up leads them to no-knock raid some poor dude and shoot him dead because he mistakenly tries to defend his home from illegal intrusion. Other policies, defended as being needed to keep law enforcement officers safe, lead to more quantities of more lethal armaments as a "normal" part of law enforcement. For those looking at the recent attack in TX, is ask you how many incidents were there in the last ten years which consisted of the use of full-auto firearms being used against law enforcement? Yet we see even town like Bozeman, Montana buying armored military vehicle to add to their force structure. Has anyone stopped to think that the militarization of law enforcement is a government move along the same lines of Obama race baiting every time a white officer kills a black criminal? (ie: create more tension and develop a rift between LEOs and the citizens they are there to serve.)

The bottom line here, IMO, is not entirely, or even mostly a problem of poor minorities turning to thuggish behaviors due to them falling for the anti-law rhetoric, thus exacerbating interactions with law enforcement. Nor is it entirely, or even mostly a problem of out-of-control law enforcement running around shooting everything that moves. What I see is the vast majority of the problem is stemming from an out-of-control government hierarchy which is deliberately splitting the population of citizenry into factions, which is deliberately creating policies which lead to increased crime so they can use it as an excuse to turn our law enforcement into a domestic branch of the military to be used against us under the claim that we need their protection.

In short, it ain't the thugs, though they are definitely playing their part in the mess, and need to either clean up their act or be cleaned up.  It ain't the police (with a few exceptions) who are trying to do an already difficult job with factions from multiple sides screaming at them for not doing it the way each screamer thinks it aught to be done.  And behind it all we have good old government, pushing this button and that button, creating more problems with each new policy, because each problem they create is one more excuse to toss away our republic in favor of more government control.