WTH!!

QuoteDespite staying largely silent on the issue—he's quietly supported it for weeks, but hasn't said anything at all in quite a long time—Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker crossed most conservatives by coming out in support of Obamatrade on Thursday evening in an interview with Bloomberg's Mark Halperin.

My take on Halperin is that he's a socialist prick, but Walker.....saying he supports Obamatrade?? Gag me.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/scott-walker-pushes-obamatrade-on-eve-of-vote/

Another nail in his coffin, he also supports superceding the grand jury in police shooting cases, definitely unconstitutional and right along the lines of Holders plan to install a federal ombudsman.

 
Sorry, but I find it funny, considering all the shit people gave Cruz for the same reason.
I just wish to Hell they'd release the damned thing at let the people decide.
But to keep it secret, is simply stupid in creating more suspicion of the govt, if that's even possible.

What really makes Walker look bad is that he didn't read it.

Walker's appearing less-and-less like TEA material.  First, his softened stance on amnesty from outta nowhere.  And now this.

He was fine last month:     

http://www.teaparty.org/scott-walker-dazzles-capitol-hill-99679/

Quote from: kit saginaw on June 12, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Walker's appearing less-and-less like TEA material.  First, his softened stance on amnesty from outta nowhere.  And now this.

He was fine last month:     

http://www.teaparty.org/scott-walker-dazzles-capitol-hill-99679/

The "musical chairs" game is heating up among the GOP candidates.   TEA is extracting a lot of chairs from the race this week because of the positional revelations coming out of this crazy trade bill.  It has definitely been an eye opener!!!

Quote from: kit saginaw on June 12, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Walker's appearing less-and-less like TEA material.  First, his softened stance on amnesty from outta nowhere.  And now this.

He was fine last month:     

http://www.teaparty.org/scott-walker-dazzles-capitol-hill-99679/

I believe it was during the last mid-term elections that Walker voiced support for a candidate running for governor in another state. A candidate who was pro-amnesty. I can't remember who the candidate was, or in which state, but I've been wary of Walker ever since.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 05:24:37 PM

Sorry, but I find it funny, considering all the shit people gave Cruz for the same reason.
I just wish to Hell they'd release the damned thing at let the people decide.
But to keep it secret, is simply stupid in creating more suspicion of the govt, if that's even possible.

This whole issue has had me perplexed. I usually am supportive of trade agreements as most open markets and the free market is best.

I think this is why it is so confusing. After listening to all the rhetoric and seeing who is for and who is against it I think I may have figured it out. The trade agreement part is probably OK, but it gives too much authority to the POTUS. A strong executive branch is not normally an issue, but this president has changed the landscape. The GOP supporters do not recognize the potential pitfalls and only see the benefits of the overall agreement.

Those opposed, liberal democrats and conservative pubs, do so for different reasons. Conservatives want no mo part of giving Obama free reign over agreements. Liberals are into their "protect the unions" mode and oppose it because of the unions.

Maybe that is a simplified answer.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 13, 2015, 09:13:07 AM
This whole issue has had me perplexed. I usually am supportive of trade agreements as most open markets and the free market is best.

I think this is why it is so confusing. After listening to all the rhetoric and seeing who is for and who is against it I think I may have figured it out. The trade agreement part is probably OK, but it gives too much authority to the POTUS. A strong executive branch is not normally an issue, but this president has changed the landscape. The GOP supporters do not recognize the potential pitfalls and only see the benefits of the overall agreement.

Those opposed, liberal democrats and conservative pubs, do so for different reasons. Conservatives want no mo part of giving Obama free reign over agreements. Liberals are into their "protect the unions" mode and oppose it because of the unions.

Maybe that is a simplified answer.

I believe the reason for secrecy is an attempt to divide the country over the whole mess.
There very well may be nothing to it, that in truth, it's not much different from powers granted to other Presidents in the past, but the gain is in his need to create anger in the country, so he deepens suspicion in govt.

I don't think he realizes the strength he gives TEA in helping expose the illegitimacy of the GOPe in their quest in helping keep it secret prior to a vote.
I could be way off base, it may very well be a piece of shit Leftistlation, (COING NEW WORD ^TM but the damage is obvious.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/cruz-tpa-doesnt-give-obama-more-power-jeff-sessions-not-accurate/msg245832/#new

Quote from: MACMan on June 12, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
WTH!!
My take on Halperin is that he's a socialist prick, but Walker.....saying he supports Obamatrade?? Gag me.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/scott-walker-pushes-obamatrade-on-eve-of-vote/

Has Walker been to the secret room and read the bill? I think not!

Since Walker is not a member of Congress, there is no way he could have read the text of the deal before making these comments.

He's just for Free Trade - as any small government Constitutional Conservative should be. I think that if he were to actually be able to read the bill and analyze the text, he would quickly change his position.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 13, 2015, 11:02:51 AM
Has Walker been to the secret room and read the bill? I think not!

Since Walker is not a member of Congress, there is no way he could have read the text of the deal before making these comments.

He's just for Free Trade - as any small government Constitutional Conservative should be. I think that if he were to actually be able to read the bill and analyze the text, he would quickly change his position.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

I tend to agree with you. Most conservatives favor agreements that expand free trade.

Quote from: Solar on June 13, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
I believe the reason for secrecy is an attempt to divide the country over the whole mess.

I think it is much more sinister than that. 

There is much trash hidden in that bill.... much like Obamacare.... and they cannot risk us finding out their dirty little subversive additions to it.

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 13, 2015, 11:02:51 AM
Has Walker been to the secret room and read the bill? I think not!

Since Walker is not a member of Congress, there is no way he could have read the text of the deal before making these comments.

He's just for Free Trade - as any small government Constitutional Conservative should be. I think that if he were to actually be able to read the bill and analyze the text, he would quickly change his position.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Then why even speak on something he hasn't read? That's not what a President would do.
No, this doesn't bode well for him.

Quote from: kroz on June 13, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
I think it is much more sinister than that. 

There is much trash hidden in that bill.... much like Obamacare.... and they cannot risk us finding out their dirty little subversive additions to it.

Difference being, they're allowed to read this one, unlike Commiecare, where they had to sign it to see what was in it.

Quote from: Solar on June 13, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
Difference being, they're allowed to read this one, unlike Commiecare, where they had to sign it to see what was in it.

"We the People" cannot read this one!  That is my point.

It is sinister and in total opposition to the way our government was designed to work.  The people should be able to participate at every level.