I see this as a veiled jab at (once again) Religion & Christianity, most of the children attending private school are attending CATHOLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, there are a few other Christian private schools across the country, here in Virginia the Baptists and the Methodists have their own private schools, but by and large the Catholics take the majority of the "private school" population in the USA. And most of the families who send their kids there are not "Wealthy" in that context, most are working class and "middle Americans", with an income below $100K

So here we go again with the definition of "wealth" by Marxist standards.

Two of my Grandaughters attend Catholic school and one Grandson (I pay for) goes to Catholic school.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 14, 2015, 04:55:46 AM
I see this as a veiled jab at (once again) Religion & Christianity, most of the children attending private school are attending CATHOLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, there are a few other Christian private schools across the country, here in Virginia the Baptists and the Methodists have their own private schools, but by and large the Catholics take the majority of the "private school" population in the USA. And most of the families who send their kids there are not "Wealthy" in that context, most are working class and "middle Americans", with an income below $100K

So here we go again with the definition of "wealth" by Marxist standards.

Two of my Grandaughters attend Catholic school and one Grandson (I pay for) goes to Catholic school.

Let's face it. It is not about fairness. It is about Obama not being able to control content of non government schools.

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 14, 2015, 06:33:06 AM
Let's face it. It is not about fairness. It is about Obama not being able to control content of non government schools.

Exactly   

Quote from: walkstall on May 13, 2015, 06:51:35 AM
– luckier –

I worked my ass off and did without some thing so my kids could go to a private school.  I was happy to do it as I know where I came from and was not going to have my kids there.  I would do it all over again with a smile on my face.

Sure beats a reservation classroom, eh? 

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 14, 2015, 06:33:06 AM
Let's face it. It is not about fairness. It is about Obama not being able to control content of non government schools.

That voucher program in DC that Obama cancelled cost $8000 per year per student.  The public schools in DC get $18,000 per year.  The kids using that voucher program were doing very well.  This is what I found when my kids went to private.  It didn't cost nearly as much as what the public schools were getting.

Quote from: Dori on May 14, 2015, 06:43:30 AM
That voucher program in DC that Obama cancelled cost $8000 per year per student.  The public schools in DC get $18,000 per year.  The kids using that voucher program were doing very well.  This is what I found when my kids went to private.  It didn't cost nearly as much as what the public schools were getting.

True!!  That is because it eliminates that thick layer of bureaucracy and unions!  They take the lion's share of our tax dollars.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 14, 2015, 04:55:46 AM
I see this as a veiled jab at (once again) Religion & Christianity, most of the children attending private school are attending CATHOLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, there are a few other Christian private schools across the country, here in Virginia the Baptists and the Methodists have their own private schools, but by and large the Catholics take the majority of the "private school" population in the USA. And most of the families who send their kids there are not "Wealthy" in that context, most are working class and "middle Americans", with an income below $100K

So here we go again with the definition of "wealth" by Marxist standards.

Two of my Grandaughters attend Catholic school and one Grandson (I pay for) goes to Catholic school.

Northwest Ohio and southern Michigan have numerous private Christian schools as well as the longer-based Catholic schools also in the area. At least in my area, Sister Mary Rapknuckles comes in a pinafore and a hair-bun, or an undertaker's suit. 

Quote from: quiller on May 14, 2015, 06:48:35 AM
Northwest Ohio and southern Michigan have numerous private Christian schools as well as the longer-based Catholic schools also in the area. At least in my area, Sister Mary Rapknuckles comes in a pinafore and a hair-bun, or an undertaker's suit. 

You "hit" on something important quiller!

Private schools maintain the vital element of discipline in the classroom.  Without that, education cannot take place.

Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 06:51:01 AM
You "hit" on something important quiller!

Private schools maintain the vital element of discipline in the classroom.  Without that, education cannot take place.

In my lifetime, existing public schools merged in 1952 in Michigan with what had been a system of country schools (the Laura Ingalls Wilder stereotype, for real). My mother taught in two such places starting out in what became a 30 year career. The country schools maintained SELF-discipline: farm kids get that one, just growing up. Us village kids like myself?---not so much.

My intent with the remark you quoted is not to denigrate the disciplinarians, although I can offer a cautionary note. In fourth grade, I was repeatedly beaten with a paddle by my school principal, for daring to use my left hand for writing and my teacher told me to quit.

Trends come and go in education. Now they paddle you for wearing an NRA shirt, or daring to cite the Constitution they flaunt.

Quote from: quiller on May 14, 2015, 07:27:54 AM
In my lifetime, existing public schools merged in 1952 in Michigan with what had been a system of country schools (the Laura Ingalls Wilder stereotype, for real). My mother taught in two such places starting out in what became 30 years. The country schools maintained SELF-discipline: farm kids get that one, just growing up. Us village kids like myself?---not so much.

My intent with the remark you quoted is not to denigrate the disciplinarians, although I can offer a cautionary note. In fourth grade, I was repeatedly beaten with a paddle by my school principal, for daring to use my left hand for writing and my teacher told me to quit.

Trends come and go in education. Now they paddle you for wearing an NRA shirt, or daring to cite the Constitution they flaunt.

My husband spent the first five years of his education in a rural two room schoolhouse..... and that was in the early 50s!  Then he was bused into the little farm town with the BIG school.... actually very small.

It is unfortunate that you were disciplined for writing with your left hand.  That was an issue of ignorance.  My older sister was left handed and also constantly chided to "change hands with her pencil."

Overall, discipline is a good thing.  It builds character and moral fortitude!

Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 06:51:01 AM
You "hit" on something important quiller!

Private schools maintain the vital element of discipline in the classroom.  Without that, education cannot take place.

^I agree with this.  The school my kids went to was very strict, and they enforced the rules. Sure didn't hurt my kids a bit, I was glad for it. They had a three strikes and your out rule.  Every time there was an infraction, the parents had to come in to see the Principal with the kid.  The teachers didn't have to put up with anything.  The kids didn't wear uniforms per se, but they had a very strict dress and grooming code. 

All this might sound a little severe, but the school and the kids were great.  There was a lot of school enthusiasm and school pride.  I found the experience very positive for the kids.  The luxury for the school was, that being private, they didn't have to put up with the problem kids.  They had long waiting lists.

Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 07:36:49 AM
My husband spent the first five years of his education in a rural two room schoolhouse..... and that was in the early 50s!  Then he was bused into the little farm town with the BIG school.... actually very small.

It is unfortunate that you were disciplined for writing with your left hand.  That was an issue of ignorance.  My older sister was left handed and also constantly chided to "change hands with her pencil."

Overall, discipline is a good thing.  It builds character and moral fortitude!

Discipline made me the universal pain in the keister that I am today. By the time I entered school (in town, 600 kids K-12, two buildings), I had the skids greased for me and my hooligan ways. Earned money washing towels, scrubbing cafeteria dishes and other patronage jobs. This income led me to becoming a movie freak (when adults paid 60 cents and the hero didn't kiss his horse).

Nostalgia. Now if I could only find the grave of that teacher who didn't like lefties.

A feel good personal story.

I was privileged to just attend a grandson's HS graduation from a PRIVATE school in MS. First, I was impressed with how the graduates had obviously been prepared for the ceremony and it went without a hitch. We had an invocation prayer by a graduating student and then the entire group was led in the pledge of allegiance. I listened carefully and  noticed the large crowd of 300-400 emphasized "under God" during the pledge. We also had a benediction prayer at the end by a student. Refreshing!!!

What this tells me is we do have "silent majority" out there and they vote. Oh, BTW, this was a bi-racial graduation and a bi-racial crowd. I saw one bi-racial family. The lib MSM would never report anything like this, especially in MS.

Quote from: tac on May 13, 2015, 04:59:16 AM
OBAMA: WEALTHY IGNORE POVERTY BY SENDING KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS

by CHARLIE SPIERING

During a conversation about poverty, President Obama said he was concerned that more wealthy people were separated from poverty because they chose to frequent private institutions instead of public ones.

"Part of what's happened is, is that elites in a very mobile, globalized world are able to live together, away from folks who are not as wealthy, and so they feel less of a commitment to making those investments," he explained during a panel discussion on poverty at Georgetown University today.

Obama criticized the free-market system in America for allowing higher concentrations of wealth to exist among the rich while the bottom percentage was being left behind and receiving a smaller portion of that wealth.

"Those who are doing better and better, more skilled, more educated, – luckier – having greater advantages are withdrawing from the commons," he said. "Kids start going to private schools, kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks, an anti-government ideology then disinvests from those common goods and those things that draw us together."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/12/obama-wealthy-ignore-poverty-by-sending-kids-to-private-schools/

Damn hypocrite!  What public school do his kids attend?

More to the point!
What public school did "he" attend?

Quote from: redbeard on May 14, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
More to the point!
What public school did "he" attend?

That is why he won't appear of FNC. He just might be asked that question.