Will The Marines Lower The Bar?

Started by Solar, January 10, 2015, 02:53:59 PM

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Solar

This is nothing against women, rather standards.

Two female Marine officers who volunteered to attempt the Corps' challenging Infantry Officer Course did not proceed beyond the first day of the course, a Marine Corps spokesperson confirms to the Free Beacon. The two were the only female officers attempting the course in the current cycle, which began Thursday in Quantico, Virginia.

With the two most recent drops, there have been 29 attempts by female officers to pass the course since women have been allowed to volunteer, with none making it to graduation. (At least one woman has attempted the course more than once.) Only four female officers have made it beyond the initial day of training, a grueling evaluation known as the Combat Endurance Test, or CET. Male officers also regularly fail to pass the CET, and the overall course has a substantial attrition rate for males.

The Marine Corps spokesperson, Captain Maureen Krebs, told the Free Beacon that the two officers, "did not meet the standards required of them on day one in order to continue on with the course." Fifteen male officers also did not meet the standards. Of the 118 officers who began the course, 101 proceeded to the second day. 

The Marine Corps, along with the other services, has been evaluating how to comply with the order to gender-integrate its combat arms specialties by the end of this year, or apply for special exemptions.

The results of the Marine Corps' experimentation thus far has revealed a pattern: Female enlisted Marines have been able to graduate from the enlisted School of Infantry's Infantry Training Battalion in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, though at a lower rate than male enlisted Marines, while female officers have faced great difficulty in graduating from the course in Quantico.

This situation has led some involved with the policy debate in Washington, D.C., to suggest that the standards at the officer's course in Quantico–which are substantially higher than for the enlisted course–are unrealistically challenging, and need to be lowered.[/b]

http://freebeacon.com/blog/exclusive-two-more-female-marines-dropped-from-infantry-course/
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Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2015, 02:53:59 PM
This is nothing against women, rather standards.

Two female Marine officers who volunteered to attempt the Corps' challenging Infantry Officer Course did not proceed beyond the first day of the course, a Marine Corps spokesperson confirms to the Free Beacon. The two were the only female officers attempting the course in the current cycle, which began Thursday in Quantico, Virginia.

With the two most recent drops, there have been 29 attempts by female officers to pass the course since women have been allowed to volunteer, with none making it to graduation. (At least one woman has attempted the course more than once.) Only four female officers have made it beyond the initial day of training, a grueling evaluation known as the Combat Endurance Test, or CET. Male officers also regularly fail to pass the CET, and the overall course has a substantial attrition rate for males.

The Marine Corps spokesperson, Captain Maureen Krebs, told the Free Beacon that the two officers, "did not meet the standards required of them on day one in order to continue on with the course." Fifteen male officers also did not meet the standards. Of the 118 officers who began the course, 101 proceeded to the second day. 

The Marine Corps, along with the other services, has been evaluating how to comply with the order to gender-integrate its combat arms specialties by the end of this year, or apply for special exemptions.

The results of the Marine Corps' experimentation thus far has revealed a pattern: Female enlisted Marines have been able to graduate from the enlisted School of Infantry's Infantry Training Battalion in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, though at a lower rate than male enlisted Marines, while female officers have faced great difficulty in graduating from the course in Quantico.

This situation has led some involved with the policy debate in Washington, D.C., to suggest that the standards at the officer's course in Quantico–which are substantially higher than for the enlisted course–are unrealistically challenging, and need to be lowered.[/b]

http://freebeacon.com/blog/exclusive-two-more-female-marines-dropped-from-infantry-course/
Lowering the infantry officers' training standards to accommodate a few female wannabe grunts is typical bureaucratic mindset -- utterly awesome, mind-boggling, jaw-dropping, gobsmacking, face-planting, breathtaking stupidity. It is precisely the sort of thing we should expect out of our lib/prog-riddled executive branch, including the DOD.
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MACMan

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 10, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
Lowering the infantry officers' training standards to accommodate a few female wannabe grunts is typical bureaucratic mindset -- utterly awesome, mind-boggling, jaw-dropping, gobsmacking, face-planting, breathtaking stupidity. It is precisely the sort of thing we should expect out of our lib/prog-riddled executive branch, including the DOD.

Bu..bu..but, think how it would do wonders to raise the already low morale of those who would be under her command. (sarc)  :lol:

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      Sure thing, put the lip lock on the Congress at the risk of few enlisted U. S. Marines.
      But when it comes to the officer corps, then it's a different story. No way.
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kit saginaw

No, they won't lower the course-standards.  It's to insure that officers won't be second-guessed when giving orders in critical combat-situations.

If a woman can pass the course, let her in.  If not, boot her out.  End of discussion.

quiller

Quote from: kit saginaw on January 10, 2015, 10:00:52 PM
No, they won't lower the course-standards.  It's to insure that officers won't be second-guessed when giving orders in critical combat-situations.

If a woman can pass the course, let her in.  If not, boot her out.  End of discussion.

You just summarized a ten-minute lecture from my wife. Dang, you're pithy!  :thumbsup:

red_dirt

Quote from: quiller on January 10, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
You just summarized a ten-minute lecture from my wife. Dang, you're pithy!  :thumbsup:

     No "Oprah" for the Missus for two weeks -- that's my prescription.

     Why?  She has no clue.  Any Woman Marine who seeks to integrate with the combat
infantry force is a freak of nature -- physically, mentally, and emotionally. Well run
military organizations did not become just that by catering to freaks, worse yet, freaks
with something to prove. Usually, such are recognized and routed away by recruiters.
Once in, the DI's normally recognize the situation and deal with it, normally by tipping
off the officers, who can always find a place for the occasional freak. How this one got
to the point of that ceiling is anyone's guess. It starts with a general staff that has been
turned into a lifer's club of political boot lickers. This has been ongoing since the 1950's.

     This is all part of leftist political correctness. Just common sense should tell us this is
an absurd proposition. What are they suggesting, that every facility and program be revamped
just to accommodate a handful of screwy leftists.  This is more of Obama's crap, probably
hatched in  a  Jihadist recruiting campaign.

keyboarder

Quote from: MACMan on January 10, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
Bu..bu..but, think how it would do wonders to raise the already low morale of those who would be under her command. (sarc)  :lol:

You got that right pal, especially since the ones she would be over had to get to where they are by traditional standards.  Just more liberal progressive BS.
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